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Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:47 pm
by Flightstopper
Kenny powers wishes he had a badass sled like this.

Just got home with the new boat

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:52 pm
by Olly
Wait? You're already done?

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:52 pm
by Flightstopper
14x48 monarch. Straight trade for an old canoe we never use. Not sure what happened with the weird color on pic

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Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:13 pm
by NuffDaddy
Flightstopper wrote:14x48 monarch. Straight trade for an old canoe we never use. Not sure what happened with the weird color on pic

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Nice! That's gonna be a sweet hull for that. Fast, but wide and stable.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:31 pm
by Steele22
Just curious, why a riveted boat instead of welded. Won't the extra seat be in the way also?

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:12 pm
by NuffDaddy
Steele22 wrote:Just curious, why a riveted boat instead of welded. Won't the extra seat be in the way also?

I'd say price. Looks like this is all but free to him so far.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:25 pm
by Flightstopper
Nuff nailed it. The glass may battery is the most expensive thing I've bought yet. I don't need a boat I can beat up I just need to get through areas you can't with a prop. That and a jetjon is just plain badass.

The seat I'll pop the rivets off and add more structure when I build a back deck.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:26 pm
by Olly
Flightstopper wrote:Nuff nailed it. The glass may battery is the most expensive thing I've bought yet. I don't need a boat I can beat up I just need to get through areas you can't with a prop. That and a jetjon is just plain badass.

The seat I'll pop the rivets off and add more structure when I build a back deck.

I'm excited to see how this turns out.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:36 pm
by Steele22
Sounds good, I agree those are the shit. I run the holston river a lot up here and it's 4-6 in deep in spots with solid rock shoals. Gets real damn hairy before daylight in cold ass water. People run jet outboards, go Devils with a rock guard or airboats. What you got would work as good if not better

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:04 pm
by Flightstopper
Olly wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:Nuff nailed it. The glass may battery is the most expensive thing I've bought yet. I don't need a boat I can beat up I just need to get through areas you can't with a prop. That and a jetjon is just plain badass.

The seat I'll pop the rivets off and add more structure when I build a back deck.

I'm excited to see how this turns out.


After picking the boat up and seeing how stout it is I don't believe I can screw and glue the ski hull in it.....

Plans are gearing up to fab up an aluminum scoop and weld it all in. Makes for a much smaller hole in the hull and immensely cleaner build. Found a guy that did this and had 25 page thread on the build. Tons of excellent info.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:09 pm
by NuffDaddy
Flightstopper wrote:
Olly wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:Nuff nailed it. The glass may battery is the most expensive thing I've bought yet. I don't need a boat I can beat up I just need to get through areas you can't with a prop. That and a jetjon is just plain badass.

The seat I'll pop the rivets off and add more structure when I build a back deck.

I'm excited to see how this turns out.


After picking the boat up and seeing how stout it is I don't believe I can screw and glue the ski hull in it.....

Plans are gearing up to fab up an aluminum scoop and weld it all in. Makes for a much smaller hole in the hull and immensely cleaner build. Found a guy that did this and had 25 page thread on the build. Tons of excellent info.

Nice. I saw pics of one done like that. Looked like it was manufacture design. Should make for a lot better performance as well.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:41 pm
by Flightstopper
The build he did was a 16x44 with a 720 motor in it, 80 hp, and according to his Lowrance he hit 54. My motor is the 580 60 hp but has also lost some compression. Next year I will probably drop a different motor in just because I can.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:04 pm
by NuffDaddy
Flightstopper wrote:The build he did was a 16x44 with a 720 motor in it, 80 hp, and according to his Lowrance he hit 54. My motor is the 580 60 hp but has also lost some compression. Next year I will probably drop a different motor in just because I can.

Still going to fucking haul. I can't wait to see this done.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:08 pm
by Flightstopper
If I see mid 20's I'll be extremely happy. Only hitting 36 on the ski I'm not expecting anything huge one in the boat.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:26 pm
by capt1972
Flightstopper wrote:If I see mid 20's I'll be extremely happy. Only hitting 36 on the ski I'm not expecting anything huge one in the boat.

You might just be surprised. :qh:

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:41 pm
by Flightstopper
Project just got kicked in the ass. Wife came home asking about the boat and why we don't already have a welder. Fast forward about an hour and she cashed in some free points from her business card and a welder will be ordered when the gift cards show up. FREE WELDER!

http://www.eastwood.com/mig-welders-175 ... l-gun.html

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:59 pm
by The Duck Hammer
Jim could have gotten you a free welder.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:06 pm
by Flightstopper
This is free. She got a bunch of points for signing up for the card for spending so much for the first three months. Her company reimburses her for expenses on the card. Absolutely free!

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:32 am
by Olly
Flightstopper wrote:This is free. She got a bunch of points for signing up for the card for spending so much for the first three months. Her company reimburses her for expenses on the card. Absolutely free!

I just heard a ghost talking about how you should have built your own :lol:

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:38 am
by Flightstopper
Olly wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:This is free. She got a bunch of points for signing up for the card for spending so much for the first three months. Her company reimburses her for expenses on the card. Absolutely free!

I just heard a ghost talking about how you should have built your own :lol:


:lol: Naw I have him beat by $37 on this one and comes with a spool gun :lol:

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:43 am
by NuffDaddy
Do you know how to weld aluminum?

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:46 am
by Flightstopper
I've played a bit TIG'ing it when I was welding before. Was getting to the point of making some decent welds when I left. I'm not too worried.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:53 am
by NuffDaddy
Flightstopper wrote:I've played a bit TIG'ing it when I was welding before. Was getting to the point of making some decent welds when I left. I'm not too worried.

Should be good. Just didn't know what you had for experience. From what I've heard aluminum is not the easiest thing to weld, and I know I wouldn't want a boat to be the first thing I learned on.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:55 am
by The Duck Hammer
NuffDaddy wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:I've played a bit TIG'ing it when I was welding before. Was getting to the point of making some decent welds when I left. I'm not too worried.

Should be good. Just didn't know what you had for experience. From what I've heard aluminum is not the easiest thing to weld, and I know I wouldn't want a boat to be the first thing I learned on.


I watched a guy weld aluminum with a plumbers torch and an aluminum rod once...

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:58 am
by NuffDaddy
The Duck Hammer wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:I've played a bit TIG'ing it when I was welding before. Was getting to the point of making some decent welds when I left. I'm not too worried.

Should be good. Just didn't know what you had for experience. From what I've heard aluminum is not the easiest thing to weld, and I know I wouldn't want a boat to be the first thing I learned on.


I watched a guy weld aluminum with a plumbers torch and an aluminum rod once...

I've done that too. I sure wouldn't trust that to hold much though.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:00 am
by The Duck Hammer
NuffDaddy wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:I've played a bit TIG'ing it when I was welding before. Was getting to the point of making some decent welds when I left. I'm not too worried.

Should be good. Just didn't know what you had for experience. From what I've heard aluminum is not the easiest thing to weld, and I know I wouldn't want a boat to be the first thing I learned on.


I watched a guy weld aluminum with a plumbers torch and an aluminum rod once...

I've done that too. I sure wouldn't trust that to hold much though.


I wouldn't either. :lol: looked terrible.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:01 am
by NuffDaddy
The Duck Hammer wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:I've played a bit TIG'ing it when I was welding before. Was getting to the point of making some decent welds when I left. I'm not too worried.

Should be good. Just didn't know what you had for experience. From what I've heard aluminum is not the easiest thing to weld, and I know I wouldn't want a boat to be the first thing I learned on.


I watched a guy weld aluminum with a plumbers torch and an aluminum rod once...

I've done that too. I sure wouldn't trust that to hold much though.


I wouldn't either. :lol: looked terrible.

I was going to try and weld a leaky rivet in my boat like that. I tried welding 2 aluminum cans together and it held but burned holes through the cans and made it look like shit. So I kept it away from my boat.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:29 am
by The Duck Hammer
Guy I was watching was using 1/4" plate.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:42 am
by Flightstopper
The Duck Hammer wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:I've played a bit TIG'ing it when I was welding before. Was getting to the point of making some decent welds when I left. I'm not too worried.

Should be good. Just didn't know what you had for experience. From what I've heard aluminum is not the easiest thing to weld, and I know I wouldn't want a boat to be the first thing I learned on.


I watched a guy weld aluminum with a plumbers torch and an aluminum rod once...


That's different, that is low temp brazing. Works good to bond metal but fatigues and breaks under stress since it doesn't fuse the metal. Been reading about it for this.

Re: Jetjon build

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:28 pm
by The Duck Hammer
Makes sense. TIGing is still on my list of things to learn.