Oh snap, look what I got!

by **Olly** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:29 pm

To bad ivory is illegal haha

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by **Westie25** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:33 pm

White acrylic would be sharp.

by **Olly** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:36 pm

You should step that game up and start making your own inserts. You could then make them in any color you wanted.

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by **Westie25** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:38 pm

I'm in the process of learning how honestly. If I had a CNC lathe, it would be game over. And it will happen.

by **Olly** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:46 pm

I like it.

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by **3legged_lab** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:33 pm

don taylor wrote:Gaboon ebony and indian ebony, Westie. Have you ever worked with them? If I buy a 1 1/2 x 1 1/2 x 14 inch piece, would anybody like the other half of it to have a call barrel turned? Very hard, very dense wood. Here's a link.

http://www.bellforestproducts.com/indian-ebony/

Westie25 wrote:I haven't ever. But shouldn't be too awfully bad.

For a really dark hard wood I would recommend African black wood. It has great tonal qualities, a little slower to turn down but it polishes up like glass. I think doc, and the dude both chose it for their barrels, ask them what they think of it. One of the more spendy woods I've bought, but in small sizes for calls its not bad though.

by **Westie25** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:46 pm

Honduras rosewood

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by **Eric Haynes** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:03 pm

This is a call I got from a guy over at DHC who makes calls for military that are deployed, for free. I was lucky enough to get him to sell one to me(he wanted to give it for my service, but I wanted to pay) for next to nothing. I love it, but I wondering the size of those Echo inserts. I would like a flared insert for some more range/volume for hunting open water. Right now it is perfect for timber.

by **Westie25** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:08 pm

That's a sharp looking call.

The echo inserts are 5/8". Echo sells what they advertise as an open water insert. I think they're 4 bucks.

by **Eric Haynes** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:11 pm

Westie25 wrote:That's a sharp looking call.

The echo inserts are 5/8". Echo sells what they advertise as an open water insert. I think they're 4 bucks.

In wood?

by **Westie25** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:11 pm

Poly I'm afraid.

by **Eric Haynes** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:17 pm

Westie25 wrote:Poly I'm afraid.

Not that I'm against poly, I just want to keep it rustic looking. Wish they at least had an ivory-ish color.

The Barrel is Cocobolo and the insert is granadillo. Both are dense, just the insert isn't flared at all. When you start making inserts let us know. Maybe you can design something for me. :beer:

by **Eric Haynes** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:27 pm

Also, when you order the insert from them, does it come all assembled? As in reed, cork etc.

by **Westie25** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:33 pm

Yep, comes tuned.

I'm going to come up with an insert this week.

by **Eric Haynes** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:36 pm

Westie25 wrote:Yep, comes tuned.

I'm going to come up with an insert this week.

For 5 bucks I'll order a couple. Can't seem to go wrong with that price.

I've never blown a double reed so maybe I'll get one of each.

by **Westie25** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:38 pm

Can't go wrong for 5 bucks.

by **MOhuntingGuy** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:26 pm

I still can't wait to get my dick mittens on one of your calls westie. They look sexy.

by **assateague** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:21 pm

Eric Haynes wrote:
Westie25 wrote:Yep, comes tuned.

I'm going to come up with an insert this week.

For 5 bucks I'll order a couple. Can't seem to go wrong with that price.

I've never blown a double reed so maybe I'll get one of each.

I like double reeds, personally. I don't think they're any more difficult to run, personally.

by **don taylor** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:38 am

I almost always get a double when I order a call. If you don't like it, take out the 2nd reed and viola! You have a single reed. They don't always need tuned after, either. Just yank it out.

I think most people would agree a double is easier to run than a single reed, Jim. For people who have a tough time, a double is what is generally recommended. You're making a likely sacrifice in volume, but they're considered easier to control.

Those echo poly inserts are nice. IMO they're best set up as a double. Sean Mann sells inserts as well, so does kwackwacker. I have a list of a few guys that make them for sale, if anybody is interested. SMO sells poly short reed goose inserts for pretty dang cheap, if you guys wanted to have an easy to run short reed made.

by **Westie25** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:41 am

That's good info. Thanks don!

by **don taylor** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:33 am

On the subject of making inserts, what you have to do is avoid reinventing the wheel. You'll be hard pressed to come up with a design that hasn't already been done. You'll find yourself looking for inspiration from the inserts on your shelf. Let somebody else do the trial and error work, because there is a lot of that in making inserts. Find what you like and do your best to copy it. It will still sound different than the original.

Here's another place to find inserts, you should all love this.

http://www.foilesstraitmeat.com/store/- ... 38171.html

I know that everybody just loves and adores Foiles, but to pick up a used acrylic showtime insert for $25 buck to make a homemade call is a steal. I've found them for that price listed there multiple times. I've put ads on the other site, in the classifieds, for well worn or broken calls. I've gotten everything from a daisy cutter with a cracked barrel for $20 to a SMH insert without the guts for $25. Pitch the barrel, polish the insert, you're 1/2 way there.

by **assateague** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:11 am

I thought I always heard people complaining about double reeds. My mistake.

by **Goldfish** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:29 am

MOhuntingGuy wrote:I still can't wait to get my dick mittens on one of your calls westie. They look sexy.

I don't like the way you think...

by **Flightstopper** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:19 pm

assateague wrote:I thought I always heard people complaining about double reeds. My mistake.

I don't like them personally. They sound great for greeting calls and other basic stuff but they can't cut loose and do the fun stuff like my singles. Is that necessarily a bad thing? Probably not and should more often than not leave all the showy stuff at home. But sure is nice to have and is fun when a trick you have actually works.

by **MOhuntingGuy** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:37 pm

Goldfish wrote:
MOhuntingGuy wrote:I still can't wait to get my dick mittens on one of your calls westie. They look sexy.

I don't like the way you think...

Haha. Was wondering if anybody would notice that.

by **3legged_lab** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:47 pm

MOhuntingGuy wrote:
Goldfish wrote:
MOhuntingGuy wrote:I still can't wait to get my dick mittens on one of your calls westie. They look sexy.

I don't like the way you think...

Haha. Was wondering if anybody would notice that.

I didnt bat an eye at it. We use "dick skinners", as in "Get your dick skinners off my shot gun. Or sometimes when you need to clean it up its "booger hooks".

by **MOhuntingGuy** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:42 pm

I use booger hook as well.