Olly wrote:I've never been bow fishing. I always wondered what happened to all those fish. I bet you could throw those into some compost and then rake in the cash from yuppies willing to pay out if the ass for all organic compost.
What other uses could you do with them? I'm not upset at all those fish were killed and then just buried. I'd just be looking how I can turn a good time into a good time that pays!
Olly wrote: We're still the bastard pirates of the duck forum world.
Woody wrote:The amount of biomass that is removed from the Great Lakes each year through fishing is incredible. Everything that is taken out has to be replaced some how... When a fish eats another fish the nutrients don't leave the closed system, but when humans keep their catch it removes nutrients from a system that has a limited source of replenishment. Fisherman should be required to discard their scraps back into the water they removed it from or a connecting water way. Problem is, the government outlaws that in a lot of places because rich people don't want dead fish on their beaches.
SpinnerMan wrote:Woody wrote:The amount of biomass that is removed from the Great Lakes each year through fishing is incredible. Everything that is taken out has to be replaced some how... When a fish eats another fish the nutrients don't leave the closed system, but when humans keep their catch it removes nutrients from a system that has a limited source of replenishment. Fisherman should be required to discard their scraps back into the water they removed it from or a connecting water way. Problem is, the government outlaws that in a lot of places because rich people don't want dead fish on their beaches.
Don't worry, all the sewage from all the cities around the lake replace those nutrients for you in the lake
These are not closed systems. You have a massive amount of nutrients entering the system ever year. If it were not for all the zebra mussels, the great lakes would look a lot different.
What the common carp do is that they stir up a massive amount of silt. This does all kinds of destructive things. While the main body of the waterway or lake may be clear where most people fish and boat. You get back into the shallow bays where the small fish are born and raised and it silts over the eggs, deprives the oxygen, and is just very destructive. In a hard bottom system, they are not much of a problem, but any soft bottom system, they are a fucking disaster.
At my hunting/fishing club, we have several lakes. Weed control is a big problem in these shallow lakes because of the excess nutrients from the runoff as well as being shallow and warm up and get a lot of light. We fluridone (Sonar) the lakes on a cycle. Fluridone pretty much kills every weed. Not desirable, but the only thing that is really affordable. Nuke it, then we get a year or two of completely open. Good for the fishermen. Terrible for the young fish. Then the weeds come back pretty strong pretty quickly. We let it like that for a year or two. Good for recruitment of the little fish, but unfishable in the summer. This is our cycle and it seems to work pretty well.
The one lake. There are so many carp that we get a couple extra years out of the treatment because they keep the silt so stirred up that the plants don't grow well. Last fall I went around the entire lake inspecting duck blinds and the silt on the weeds was just horrible. Just a fucking mess. I'm going to put together a plan to try and hammer the carp population in that lake. We've done this before with good success. Basically pay the member to catch and kill the carp.
Woody wrote:Oh for sure the muscles are the biggest problem, and no it is not a completely closed system (nothing in nature is), but last I read there are more nutrients removed than put back in.
Olly wrote:I've never been bow fishing. I always wondered what happened to all those fish. I bet you could throw those into some compost and then rake in the cash from yuppies willing to pay out if the ass for all organic compost.
What other uses could you do with them? I'm not upset at all those fish were killed and then just buried. I'd just be looking how I can turn a good time into a good time that pays!
Duckdog wrote:I used to work around this guy from time to time, and I had him put a new furnace in my house, but other than that, I don't really "know" him...
But I'd heard through the grape vine that he "guides" these bowfishing trips, and has somehow turned all of those carp into some kind of liquid fertilizer business and was also told that he was doing pretty good at it. Again...hearsay.
This is all I could come up with from a quick google search, and for some reason you have to answer 2-3 survey questions to read it.
http://host.madison.com/sports/recreati ... 03286.html
The battle line stretches along 40 miles of the Illinois River, from the Starved Rock Lock and Dam upstream past Morris to within 10 miles of an electric carp barrier.
This is the front in the state’s fight against Asian carp. Over 2½ years the Illinois Department of Natural Resources and state-contracted commercial fishermen have removed more than 500 tons of bighead and silver Asian carp from the Illinois River. In 68 days last fall, the DNR and fishermen netted and removed 248 tons, according to the DNR.
DComeaux wrote:The rain just keeps falling!!
Olly wrote:DComeaux wrote:The rain just keeps falling!!
You aint kidding. Raining for an entire week now.
DComeaux wrote:Olly wrote:DComeaux wrote:The rain just keeps falling!!
You aint kidding. Raining for an entire week now.
I forget that you're in Mobile. You guys have had a lot out that way.
NuffDaddy wrote:Filled in the first grave of the year
blockmaker wrote:NuffDaddy wrote:Filled in the first grave of the year
Thanks Nuff. Wish more were like you. Put in here last Saturday at a well built state ramp with docks and piers, and some douchebag bow fishermen just dumped a pile at the ramp. Literally had to hold my breath to launch boat. It's a huge problem here!
blockmaker wrote:NuffDaddy wrote:Filled in the first grave of the year
Thanks Nuff. Wish more were like you. Put in here last Saturday at a well built state ramp with docks and piers, and some douchebag bow fishermen just dumped a pile at the ramp. Literally had to hold my breath to launch boat. It's a huge problem here!
blockmaker wrote:It's all about ego, they come back to ramp, line up the fish, take pics to put on their Facebook page, and just leave them laying. I'm with spinner, throw back in main channel.
Olly wrote: We're still the bastard pirates of the duck forum world.
assateague wrote:Sometimes the quickest way to put out a fire is with an explosion.
assateague wrote:Sometimes the quickest way to put out a fire is with an explosion.
Olly wrote: We're still the bastard pirates of the duck forum world.
The Duck Hammer wrote:Hey I've got D in the class so I couldn't be happier.
assateague wrote:Sometimes the quickest way to put out a fire is with an explosion.
assateague wrote:Sometimes the quickest way to put out a fire is with an explosion.
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