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Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote: hopefully teal season here in MI.

They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote: hopefully teal season here in MI.

They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

I'm sure other ducks will be shot. But there is no way to tell how many. That's why it's an experimental season. DNR are required to report every non-teal kill to the Feds so that will determine if it continues past the 3 year trial. As far as pressure goes...There is already early goose, so there's already guys out and about blasting at birds. And after the first day of regular season the ducks are all pushed to safe zones anyway. I'd rather have 7 more days and sacrifice a few birds on opening day.

Goldfish wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote: hopefully teal season here in MI.

They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

I'm sure other ducks will be shot. But there is no way to tell how many. That's why it's an experimental season. DNR are required to report every non-teal kill to the Feds so that will determine if it continues past the 3 year trial. As far as pressure goes...There is already early goose, so there's already guys out and about blasting at birds. And after the first day of regular season the ducks are all pushed to safe zones anyway. I'd rather have 7 more days and sacrifice a few birds on opening day.

This. Pisses me off that MN opted out of an experimental season. Why wouldn't you give it a try?

Eric Haynes wrote:

Goldfish wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote: hopefully teal season here in MI.

They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

I'm sure other ducks will be shot. But there is no way to tell how many. That's why it's an experimental season. DNR are required to report every non-teal kill to the Feds so that will determine if it continues past the 3 year trial. As far as pressure goes...There is already early goose, so there's already guys out and about blasting at birds. And after the first day of regular season the ducks are all pushed to safe zones anyway. I'd rather have 7 more days and sacrifice a few birds on opening day.

This. Pisses me off that MN opted out of an experimental season. Why wouldn't you give it a try?

Because its a stupid idea. I'll bet more woodies get shot at than teal. Happens every year down south.

Flightstopper wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:

Goldfish wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:[quote="NuffDaddy"] hopefully teal season here in MI.

They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

I'm sure other ducks will be shot. But there is no way to tell how many. That's why it's an experimental season. DNR are required to report every non-teal kill to the Feds so that will determine if it continues past the 3 year trial. As far as pressure goes...There is already early goose, so there's already guys out and about blasting at birds. And after the first day of regular season the ducks are all pushed to safe zones anyway. I'd rather have 7 more days and sacrifice a few birds on opening day.

This. Pisses me off that MN opted out of an experimental season. Why wouldn't you give it a try?

Because its a stupid idea. I'll bet more woodies get shot at than teal. Happens every year down south.

Eric Haynes wrote:I'll bet more woodies get shot at than teal. Happens every year down south.

Flightstopper wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:I'll bet more woodies get shot at than teal. Happens every year down south.

Your from New York right? So you know this for sure of course.

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote: hopefully teal season here in MI.

They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

I'm sure other ducks will be shot. But there is no way to tell how many. That's why it's an experimental season. DNR are required to report every non-teal kill to the Feds so that will determine if it continues past the 3 year trial. As far as pressure goes... ...And after the first day of regular season the ducks are all pushed to safe zones anyway. I'd rather have 7 more days and sacrifice a few birds on opening day.

There is already early goose, so there's already guys out and about blasting at birds.

Flightstopper wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:

Goldfish wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:
They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

I'm sure other ducks will be shot. But there is no way to tell how many. That's why it's an experimental season. DNR are required to report every non-teal kill to the Feds so that will determine if it continues past the 3 year trial. As far as pressure goes...There is already early goose, so there's already guys out and about blasting at birds. And after the first day of regular season the ducks are all pushed to safe zones anyway. I'd rather have 7 more days and sacrifice a few birds on opening day.

This. Pisses me off that MN opted out of an experimental season. Why wouldn't you give it a try?

Because its a stupid idea. I'll bet more woodies get shot at than teal. Happens every year down south.

You really like talking out of your ass don't you?

Eric Haynes wrote:7-14 days of retards shooting at birds in September would ruin our first split.

Woody wrote:

Flightstopper wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:

Goldfish wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:[quote="Woody"]

They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

I'm sure other ducks will be shot. But there is no way to tell how many. That's why it's an experimental season. DNR are required to report every non-teal kill to the Feds so that will determine if it continues past the 3 year trial. As far as pressure goes...There is already early goose, so there's already guys out and about blasting at birds. And after the first day of regular season the ducks are all pushed to safe zones anyway. I'd rather have 7 more days and sacrifice a few birds on opening day.

This. Pisses me off that MN opted out of an experimental season. Why wouldn't you give it a try?

Because its a stupid idea. I'll bet more woodies get shot at than teal. Happens every year down south.

You really like talking out of your ass don't you?

Eric Haynes wrote:I've talked to guides in LA and AR. Both have said they believe more woodies come into the line of fire than not.

Maybe Rick can share his experience with it with us? @Rick

Feelin' Fowl wrote:
Then don't shoot. Wait until you have a positive id, then shoot...

Feelin' Fowl wrote:You gotta have faith, Woody! I like to think there are more hunters out there that are following the games laws, than guys going out there and just blasting away.

Woody wrote:

Flightstopper wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:

Goldfish wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:[quote="Woody"]

They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

I'm sure other ducks will be shot. But there is no way to tell how many. That's why it's an experimental season. DNR are required to report every non-teal kill to the Feds so that will determine if it continues past the 3 year trial. As far as pressure goes...There is already early goose, so there's already guys out and about blasting at birds. And after the first day of regular season the ducks are all pushed to safe zones anyway. I'd rather have 7 more days and sacrifice a few birds on opening day.

This. Pisses me off that MN opted out of an experimental season. Why wouldn't you give it a try?

Because its a stupid idea. I'll bet more woodies get shot at than teal. Happens every year down south.

You really like talking out of your ass don't you?

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote: hopefully teal season here in MI.

They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

I'm sure other ducks will be shot. But there is no way to tell how many. That's why it's an experimental season. DNR are required to report every non-teal kill to the Feds so that will determine if it continues past the 3 year trial. As far as pressure goes... ...And after the first day of regular season the ducks are all pushed to safe zones anyway. I'd rather have 7 more days and sacrifice a few birds on opening day.

That's the most short cited statement I've heard in a couple weeks

There is already early goose, so there's already guys out and about blasting at birds.

Geese use different parts of the ecosystem and fly a different times of the day than ducks. I do the early goose every year and every year is the same... ducks are out of roost ponds and on feeding areas long before geese even start to stir. I've never seen a duck land in winter wheat, geese prefer more open water, etc...

You are comparing apples to airplanes.

Woody wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:7-14 days of retards shooting at birds in September would ruin our first split.

This is really my biggest concern. I don't hunt much public land, but this is going to affect private, too.
ALL of the local birds are going act as if the season opened in September on the actual opening morning.

BrewGUN wrote:A teal and woody have different body sillouettes and calls, if your not sure, don't shoot, easy as that. Personally I prob won't get to hunt it much, but I'd rather have the regular season open a week earlier and stay open a week later.

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:7-14 days of retards shooting at birds in September would ruin our first split.

This is really my biggest concern. I don't hunt much public land, but this is going to affect private, too.
ALL of the local birds are going act as if the season opened in September on the actual opening morning.

So as the worst the birds on opening morning will act like they do 3 hours after LST.

Woody wrote:

Feelin' Fowl wrote:You gotta have faith, Woody! I like to think there are more hunters out there that are following the games laws, than guys going out there and just blasting away.

It only takes one bad egg to ruin an omelet.

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:7-14 days of retards shooting at birds in September would ruin our first split.

This is really my biggest concern. I don't hunt much public land, but this is going to affect private, too.
ALL of the local birds are going act as if the season opened in September on the actual opening morning.

So as the worst the birds on opening morning will act like they do 3 hours after LST.

Around here it usually takes 2 or 3 weeks for them to catch on... now it will be 30 minutes before LST.

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote: hopefully teal season here in MI.

They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

I'm sure other ducks will be shot. But there is no way to tell how many. That's why it's an experimental season. DNR are required to report every non-teal kill to the Feds so that will determine if it continues past the 3 year trial. As far as pressure goes... ...And after the first day of regular season the ducks are all pushed to safe zones anyway. I'd rather have 7 more days and sacrifice a few birds on opening day.

That's the most short cited statement I've heard in a couple weeks

There is already early goose, so there's already guys out and about blasting at birds.

Geese use different parts of the ecosystem and fly a different times of the day than ducks. I do the early goose every year and every year is the same... ducks are out of roost ponds and on feeding areas long before geese even start to stir. I've never seen a duck land in winter wheat, geese prefer more open water, etc...

You are comparing apples to airplanes.

I goose hunted 10 of the 15 days last year. I hade more teal than geese decoy in. I heard or saw at least one other party every time out, so don't give the the "they don't use the same place". Yes a lot of guys hunt fields for geese but a lot hunt the water too.

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

Eric Haynes wrote:7-14 days of retards shooting at birds in September would ruin our first split.

This is really my biggest concern. I don't hunt much public land, but this is going to affect private, too.
ALL of the local birds are going act as if the season opened in September on the actual opening morning.

So as the worst the birds on opening morning will act like they do 3 hours after LST.

Around here it usually takes 2 or 3 weeks for them to catch on... now it will be 30 minutes before LST.

So you're saying 7 days of light pressure a month before the regular season starts will make the birds more pressured opening day than they are 3 weeks into regular season. Yeah...makes sense.

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:[quote="NuffDaddy"] hopefully teal season here in MI.

They already confirmed and released the dates for the "experimental early teal season."

Personally, I would rather we didn't have an early teal season... yeah it's nice to have more days to hunt, but MI is far enough north that thousands of juvenile wood ducks are going to get shot and everywhere I know that holds teal, holds other ducks and all an early season is going to do is push local birds in to un-hunt-able areas. Its not like LA, where the majority of the ducks in early September are teal, and most of there larger ducks migrate down later.

I'm sure other ducks will be shot. But there is no way to tell how many. That's why it's an experimental season. DNR are required to report every non-teal kill to the Feds so that will determine if it continues past the 3 year trial. As far as pressure goes... ...And after the first day of regular season the ducks are all pushed to safe zones anyway. I'd rather have 7 more days and sacrifice a few birds on opening day.

That's the most short cited statement I've heard in a couple weeks

There is already early goose, so there's already guys out and about blasting at birds.

Geese use different parts of the ecosystem and fly a different times of the day than ducks. I do the early goose every year and every year is the same... ducks are out of roost ponds and on feeding areas long before geese even start to stir. I've never seen a duck land in winter wheat, geese prefer more open water, etc...

You are comparing apples to airplanes.

I goose hunted 10 of the 15 days last year. I hade more teal than geese decoy in. I heard or saw at least one other party every time out, so don't give the the "they don't use the same place". Yes a lot of guys hunt fields for geese but a lot hunt the water too.

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:

Feelin' Fowl wrote:You gotta have faith, Woody! I like to think there are more hunters out there that are following the games laws, than guys going out there and just blasting away.

It only takes one bad egg to ruin an omelet.

And you can't base regs on that one bad egg. Most of the guys that will be shooting woodies are going to be the same ones that shoot ducks during early goose.

NuffDaddy wrote:

Woody wrote:
Did every goose you shot at come in with a flock of ducks... or did you kill a majority of them without ducks around?
Be honest...

I'll bet every teal you kill this year not only comes in with a duck(s) but is a duck itself...

I've shot a goose or 2 that was flying with a mallard. But gunshots and boats fling around in the marsh are still the same weather they are after geese or teal.