sws002 wrote:Olly wrote:sws002 wrote:I was mostly referring to the comments regarding steel core ammo.
Oh, well I think most of us know that the ATF isn't coming after "normal" lead core .223 ammo. The thing I was saying was that it's not that big of a leap for them to say that "normal" lead core .223 is just as dangerous as the steel core armor piercing ammo and since they would have already had that ban in place it will make it easier to ban all AR ammo.
Steel core ammo is already banned, XM855 is not steel core ammo, it is steel tipped. Believe it or not, if this ammo was only being shot out of standard AR's, it's very likely we wouldn't even be having this conversation. AR pistols are the hot button issue with the ATF right now, and apparently being able to "conceal" a weapon which can shoot steel-tipped ammo is a huge concern.
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sws002 wrote:I'm referring more to the dipshits who have been calling nonstop for the past 3 days asking if we have any .223 left because Obama is trying to ban it. I wish I had a couple thousand rounds stocked up right now, I'd triple my money in a heartbeat.
sws002 wrote:It's not even AR pistols that they are concerned with, it's those stupid fucking Sig arm braces that finally broke them.
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The Duck Hammer wrote:sws002 wrote:It's not even AR pistols that they are concerned with, it's those stupid fucking Sig arm braces that finally broke them.
Yeah I have to agree with that. I don't really see the issue though. If I had a pistol id be inclined to just throw the gas tube up to my shoulder in a pinch.
Olly wrote:Those sig arm braces are stupid. All SBR laws are stupid, I can order SBR uppers all day long and not need a stamp until I attach it to a lower. Some say that having both is enough to get you busted for "intent" but fuck that. I don't think anyone has ever been busted for that. How does the ATF know that my intent was to put the SBR upper on that bare lower? Maybe I had plans to make it into a damn desk lamp?
sws002 wrote:Agreed. I honestly don't mind the suppressor and full auto tax stamps, but SBR doesn't make much sense to me.
sws002 wrote:Quite honestly, because I've seen the dumbfucks I sell guns to, and I'm okay with them having to jump through a few extra hoops before they possess that kind of firepower. Perhaps suppressors don't belong under the tax stamp, and I could actually see laws on those relaxing in the future, but full auto, I'm sorry but some people just aren't ready for what that entails.
Olly wrote:sws002 wrote:Quite honestly, because I've seen the dumbfucks I sell guns to, and I'm okay with them having to jump through a few extra hoops before they possess that kind of firepower. Perhaps suppressors don't belong under the tax stamp, and I could actually see laws on those relaxing in the future, but full auto, I'm sorry but some people just aren't ready for what that entails.
I don't agree but thanks for explaining.
sws002 wrote:I know you don't, and I understand why. I just see too many fucks with more money than brains, that buy AR's because they look cool. Nothing wrong with that, but if given the option to go full auto, those dumbfucks would go out in the country and let loose a hail of gunfire, sending hundreds of rounds of 62 grain hot metal death flying into oblivion.
Olly wrote:sws002 wrote:I know you don't, and I understand why. I just see too many fucks with more money than brains, that buy AR's because they look cool. Nothing wrong with that, but if given the option to go full auto, those dumbfucks would go out in the country and let loose a hail of gunfire, sending hundreds of rounds of 62 grain hot metal death flying into oblivion.
From my personal experience controlling a full auto rifle in the terms of trying to stay on target is a lot harder.
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Making dinner tonight. Needed two cups of milk. Last drop in the house exactly.
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Making dinner tonight. Needed two cups of milk. Last drop in the house exactly.
Running out of milk is one of my biggest fears. I love milk!
Olly wrote:sws002 wrote:I know you don't, and I understand why. I just see too many fucks with more money than brains, that buy AR's because they look cool. Nothing wrong with that, but if given the option to go full auto, those dumbfucks would go out in the country and let loose a hail of gunfire, sending hundreds of rounds of 62 grain hot metal death flying into oblivion.
Have you ever fired a full automatic rifle? I have. I've shot an M16, M249B, M2HB Browning, Uzi-9. Firing the full auto M16 was not THAT much faster than doing a mag dump on a semi auto AR. From my personal experience controlling a full auto rifle in the terms of trying to stay on target is a lot harder.
Here's a video of an semi vs full auto. I timed it 5 times and got an average of 22 seconds it took for the semi to finish firing after the M16 was done. I assume they had the same amount of rounds to start with. So you're logic that we should tax or stop "dumb fucks" from being able to send a lot of ammo down range in a short amount of time because the world would be safer is a little flawed. A semi auto AR can send rounds down range almost as fast. 22 seconds almost to be exact.
It sounds like what you should be advocating if you want to keep in line with your logic is that we should be restricted to single shot rifles.
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65 degrees and slightly cloudy? Yea I hate it too.
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