Hey Cali

[Redbeard]

Just joking. I liked the garage atmosphere and going out in the morning for long walks. It was a great time.

I enjoyed the hanging out the garage style. And that heater was nice too.

Red did a great job.

thank ya boys. It was alittle tough with the family home

[gila-river]

So I've heard on the news about 500 times tonight that the feds out there announced they would be releasing zero water to the farmers. Is this going to eff up your season, as far as refuges and rice farms go? If so, someone better put Gaddy on suicide watch.

I don't believe it is to zero yet, I think it's about half of last years water. It's going to be interesting, we could use a lot of rain before winter is over, not that it really started here.

We've been starting to sneak Prozac into Gaddy's food, just in case.

Why don't you guys just build a pipeline from the Columbia, from below all the dams. Hell, half the power the dams generate here goes to Cali, might as well get the water after the power is generated too.

Fuck that Mike, let'em use seawater

They're already taking it from AZ, the Imperial valley has the Colorado about sucked dry.

[gila-river]

Come on down to the desert boys. Yall can stay at the club, we got water.

[GadwallGetter530]

So I've heard on the news about 500 times tonight that the feds out there announced they would be releasing zero water to the farmers. Is this going to eff up your season, as far as refuges and rice farms go? If so, someone better put Gaddy on suicide watch.

We are still in ok shape if we get rain this spring. The federal refuges will be possibly screwed. The states have ground pumps to flood up. The feds run off of a main irrigation ditch. Called the 2047. Im still a skeptic on all this. Rice might take a hit. But the money generated from the refuges can't be replaced. We'll see what happens.

Ha! And how much money is generated from the refuges?!

Well. I can't give you an exact figure. But between reservations , one day, two day, and season passes. Its a shit load.

[aunt betty]

At some point we have to prioritize.
Fresh vegetables from Cal. or use the water for something else. Its not about "what is more profitable".

For instance...if trash man nuked Vegas tomorrow...that water could go to veggieland instead. Palm Springs could go too.
Duck hunting is fun and all but I kind of like lettuce.
I remember a year where we could not get it. Buying $3 heads that were half rotten...
You want that?

[Mean Gene]

I guess this might not be the year to come down to hunt with you guys. You might have to come up to hunt with me.

Valley dudes are screwed...won't affect me in the least.

But I think I'll go hunt with 3legs anyway.

[GadwallGetter530]

How long ago was this lettuce shortage?

[aunt betty]

How long ago was this lettuce shortage?

Uhhhh. In the 1990's?
I'm really not that into salad until I haven't had any for a few months. Then the craving slowly builds...
I recall going on a lettuce binge when the shortage ended.

You don't know how good the water tastes til the well runs dry. We take so much for granted.

[3legged_lab]

Ummm, stupid example. I'll take waterfowling over lettuce any day.

[AKPirate]

How long ago was this lettuce shortage?

Uhhhh. In the 1990's?
I'm really not that into salad until I haven't had any for a few months. Then the craving slowly builds...
I recall going on a lettuce binge when the shortage ended.

You don't know how good the water tastes til the well runs dry. We take so much for granted.

Report to the Vegan forum!

[gila-river]

Ummm, stupid example. I'll take waterfowling over lettuce any day.

Easy there that's my livelihood tripod!:lol: . Honestly last year was a bigger shortage of leafy greens than anytime in the 90's. And in the winter time almost all of the u.s. Supply of leafy greens comes from Yuma county AZ. Not California.

[aunt betty]

Ummm, stupid example. I'll take waterfowling over lettuce any day.

Easy there that's my livelihood tripod!:lol: . Honestly last year was a bigger shortage of leafy greens than anytime in the 90's. And in the winter time almost all of the u.s. Supply of leafy greens comes from Yuma county AZ. Not California.

We have kinda fallen in love with the variety bags.
She hasn't bought iceberg lettuce in a long time. Maybe that's why. (Shortage)

I try like hell to stay out of stores. The inflated prices piss me off.

I'm praying you guys get water. Good enough?

[Bootlipkiller]

So I've heard on the news about 500 times tonight that the feds out there announced they would be releasing zero water to the farmers. Is this going to eff up your season, as far as refuges and rice farms go? If so, someone better put Gaddy on suicide watch.

We are still in ok shape if we get rain this spring. The federal refuges will be possibly screwed. The states have ground pumps to flood up. The feds run off of a main irrigation ditch. Called the 2047. Im still a skeptic on all this. Rice might take a hit. But the money generated from the refuges can't be replaced. We'll see what happens.

Ha! And how much money is generated from the refuges?!

Well. I can't give you an exact figure. But between reservations , one day, two day, and season passes. Its a shit load.

It doesn't even cover operating cost homie. If money dictated water I believe farm land would be getting it all and the refuges would get zero. We are lucky someone cares enough about the ducks for the refuges to get any water at all.

[Bulldog0156]

Where was this news from? I haven't heard about it yet.

Are you in Montana?

Funny part about Montana is, the feds can't shut off irrigation water

[Redbeard]

So I've heard on the news about 500 times tonight that the feds out there announced they would be releasing zero water to the farmers. Is this going to eff up your season, as far as refuges and rice farms go? If so, someone better put Gaddy on suicide watch.

We are still in ok shape if we get rain this spring. The federal refuges will be possibly screwed. The states have ground pumps to flood up. The feds run off of a main irrigation ditch. Called the 2047. Im still a skeptic on all this. Rice might take a hit. But the money generated from the refuges can't be replaced. We'll see what happens.

Ha! And how much money is generated from the refuges?!

Well. I can't give you an exact figure. But between reservations , one day, two day, and season passes. Its a shit load.

It doesn't even cover operating cost homie. If money dictated water I believe farm land would be getting it all and the refuges would get zero. We are lucky someone cares enough about the ducks for the refuges to get any water at all.

exactly right. I imagine operating costs of the refuges trump whatever money they make. Besides if the farm lands get the water...the ducks will still have places to play, it just won't be at the refuges.

[GadwallGetter530]

So I've heard on the news about 500 times tonight that the feds out there announced they would be releasing zero water to the farmers. Is this going to eff up your season, as far as refuges and rice farms go? If so, someone better put Gaddy on suicide watch.

We are still in ok shape if we get rain this spring. The federal refuges will be possibly screwed. The states have ground pumps to flood up. The feds run off of a main irrigation ditch. Called the 2047. Im still a skeptic on all this. Rice might take a hit. But the money generated from the refuges can't be replaced. We'll see what happens.

Ha! And how much money is generated from the refuges?!

Well. I can't give you an exact figure. But between reservations , one day, two day, and season passes. Its a shit load.

It doesn't even cover operating cost homie. If money dictated water I believe farm land would be getting it all and the refuges would get zero. We are lucky someone cares enough about the ducks for the refuges to get any water at all.

exactly right. I imagine operating costs of the refuges trump whatever money they make. Besides if the farm lands get the water...the ducks will still have places to play, it just won't be at the refuges.

A large percentage of the money used for operating cost is derived by hunters use of the refuge.

[Tiler_J]

Where was this news from? I haven't heard about it yet.

Are you in Montana?

Funny part about Montana is, the feds can't shut off irrigation water

Why? No irrigation canals? I'm not familiar with Montana's irrigation practices.

[3legged_lab]

I'll say it once - the feds dont give a fuck if you kill a duck or not!

[Tiler_J]

So I've heard on the news about 500 times tonight that the feds out there announced they would be releasing zero water to the farmers. Is this going to eff up your season, as far as refuges and rice farms go? If so, someone better put Gaddy on suicide watch.

We are still in ok shape if we get rain this spring. The federal refuges will be possibly screwed. The states have ground pumps to flood up. The feds run off of a main irrigation ditch. Called the 2047. Im still a skeptic on all this. Rice might take a hit. But the money generated from the refuges can't be replaced. We'll see what happens.

Ha! And how much money is generated from the refuges?!

Well. I can't give you an exact figure. But between reservations , one day, two day, and season passes. Its a shit load.

It doesn't even cover operating cost homie. If money dictated water I believe farm land would be getting it all and the refuges would get zero. We are lucky someone cares enough about the ducks for the refuges to get any water at all.

exactly right. I imagine operating costs of the refuges trump whatever money they make. Besides if the farm lands get the water...the ducks will still have places to play, it just won't be at the refuges.

A large percentage of the money used for operating cost is derived by hunters use of the refuge.

And a large part of their budget is for flooding the refuge, no water= no flooding. Operating costs drop.

[Tiler_J]

I'll say it once - the feds dont give a fuck if you kill a duck or not!

Go ahead, say it twice!

[3legged_lab]

I'll say it once - the feds dont give a fuck if you kill a duck or not!

Go ahead, say it twice!

Had to scroll back up and see if I redbearded it.

[Tiler_J]

I'll say it once - the feds dont give a fuck if you kill a duck or not!

Go ahead, say it twice!

Had to scroll back up and see if I redbearded it.

Haha!

[Bulldog0156]

Where was this news from? I haven't heard about it yet.

Are you in Montana?

Funny part about Montana is, the feds can't shut off irrigation water

Why? No irrigation canals? I'm not familiar with Montana's irrigation practices.

State based rights. Priority date rules the water.

[Tiler_J]

Where was this news from? I haven't heard about it yet.

Are you in Montana?

Funny part about Montana is, the feds can't shut off irrigation water

Why? No irrigation canals? I'm not familiar with Montana's irrigation practices.

State based rights. Priority date rules the water.

And I'm still lost. So that means what?

[Bulldog0156]

Where was this news from? I haven't heard about it yet.

Are you in Montana?

Funny part about Montana is, the feds can't shut off irrigation water

Why? No irrigation canals? I'm not familiar with Montana's irrigation practices.

State based rights. Priority date rules the water.

And I'm still lost. So that means what?

The short of it is that irrigation districts are privately held and are able to irrigate based on priority date and availability of water. Most irrigation districts have fairly senior priority dates in my part of the state, don't know about the west side.

[Tiler_J]

Where was this news from? I haven't heard about it yet.

Are you in Montana?

Funny part about Montana is, the feds can't shut off irrigation water

Why? No irrigation canals? I'm not familiar with Montana's irrigation practices.

State based rights. Priority date rules the water.

And I'm still lost. So that means what?

The short of it is that irrigation districts are privately held and are able to irrigate based on priority date and availability of water. Most irrigation districts have fairly senior priority dates in my part of the state, don't know about the west side.

So all the water is controlled by private parties with no input from the state or Feds?

[aunt betty]

So I've heard on the news about 500 times tonight that the feds out there announced they would be releasing zero water to the farmers. Is this going to eff up your season, as far as refuges and rice farms go? If so, someone better put Gaddy on suicide watch.

We are still in ok shape if we get rain this spring. The federal refuges will be possibly screwed. The states have ground pumps to flood up. The feds run off of a main irrigation ditch. Called the 2047. Im still a skeptic on all this. Rice might take a hit. But the money generated from the refuges can't be replaced. We'll see what happens.

Ha! And how much money is generated from the refuges?!

Well. I can't give you an exact figure. But between reservations , one day, two day, and season passes. Its a shit load.

It doesn't even cover operating cost homie. If money dictated water I believe farm land would be getting it all and the refuges would get zero. We are lucky someone cares enough about the ducks for the refuges to get any water at all.

exactly right. I imagine operating costs of the refuges trump whatever money they make. Besides if the farm lands get the water...the ducks will still have places to play, it just won't be at the refuges.

bingo

[Bulldog0156]

Where was this news from? I haven't heard about it yet.

Are you in Montana?

Funny part about Montana is, the feds can't shut off irrigation water

Why? No irrigation canals? I'm not familiar with Montana's irrigation practices.

State based rights. Priority date rules the water.

And I'm still lost. So that means what?

The short of it is that irrigation districts are privately held and are able to irrigate based on priority date and availability of water. Most irrigation districts have fairly senior priority dates in my part of the state, don't know about the west side.

So all the water is controlled by private parties with no input from the state or Feds?

Not exactly, the state owns the water, but any individual can apply for a water right if they have a beneficial use for it. The state is the record keeper of all rights, but any fighting is done in district court.

If there is a shortage of water, senior water rights holders can "make call" on junior users, allowing the senior users to fulfill their rights before junior users can begin diverting. It's simple in theory, in reality things get a little trickier!

[3200 Man]

I hope this doesn't hurt anyone's feelings but , the gov is working on restricting pumping water from the ground TOO !

Saying , how much water do you need to keep your crop alive , then only allowing half that , which shows on your power
bill , unless you cheat and try other power sources !

The way it's going , there will be fist fights and shooting for stealing water .......in this state !

Look at it now ? rivers closed , lakes at 30 % and we are running out of the rainy season too !

Oklahoma Dust Bowl won't have shit on us !

Better move now before you can't see the road to get out of here !

[Redbeard]

Humboldt will have water