15 year retirement

[3geese4me]

On the flipside, you'll most likely deal with some form of bs at any other job as well.

This is amazingly true, and shouldn't be discounted. I used to think the bullshit was deep in the Army, but really, corporate America makes the military look like a well-oiled machine. While the bullshit may be a different flavor, I assure you it is every bit as deep in the civilian world.

I bet that's true. I guess I really just needed to vent. I went out today and put the hurt down on some geese as well and I feel remarkably better.

[Olly]

The key difference is that you can choose to deal with it or not in the civilian world.

[3geese4me]

The key difference is that you can choose to deal with it or not in the civilian world.

I definitely miss my freedom.

[3legged_lab]

The key difference is that you can choose to deal with it or not in the civilian world.

No. You can choose WHERE you want to deal with it, but it is always there in some shape or form.

[3legged_lab]

There are varying degrees of course. And sometimes a change of bullshit style makes it seem more tolerable. For a while.

[Eric Haynes]

The key difference is that you can choose to deal with it or not in the civilian world.

I definitely miss my freedom.

Even as your own boss you deal with bullshit..usually worse

[3legged_lab]

The key difference is that you can choose to deal with it or not in the civilian world.

I definitely miss my freedom.

Even as your own boss you deal with bullshit..usually worse

Exactly. The problem is, you can't bitch about it, nobody is there to care.

[jehler]

I got no bullshit, of course I barely make enough to survive and have no retirement, but I am always smiling and spend a huge amount of time withy kids and wife

[Eric Haynes]

I got no bullshit, of course I barely make enough to survive and have no retirement, but I am always smiling and spend a huge amount of time withy kids and wife

Says the man with 47 boats, shoots Benellis and provides multiple guys the opportunity to support their families. Barely making it i see:lol::lol:

[Redbeard]

The key difference is that you can choose to deal with it or not in the civilian world.

not necessarily true

[Eric Haynes]

The key difference is that you can choose to deal with it or not in the civilian world.

not necessarily true

Not true at all. I live both worlds and I'll take the military bullshit any day over the real world bullshit.

[jehler]

I got no bullshit, of course I barely make enough to survive and have no retirement, but I am always smiling and spend a huge amount of time withy kids and wife

Says the man with 47 boats, shoots Benellis and provides multiple guys the opportunity to support their families. Barely making it i see:lol::lol:

trust me boss, I'm scraping by, the last year I made money was 2007

[Redbeard]

I got no bullshit, of course I barely make enough to survive and have no retirement, but I am always smiling and spend a huge amount of time withy kids and wife

Says the man with 47 boats, shoots Benellis and provides multiple guys the opportunity to support their families. Barely making it i see:lol::lol:

trust me boss, I'm scraping by, the last year I made money was 2007

well one good harvest of Michigan Michoacan can get ya through the year huh

[jehler]

I got no bullshit, of course I barely make enough to survive and have no retirement, but I am always smiling and spend a huge amount of time withy kids and wife

Says the man with 47 boats, shoots Benellis and provides multiple guys the opportunity to support their families. Barely making it i see:lol::lol:

trust me boss, I'm scraping by, the last year I made money was 2007

well one good harvest of Michigan Michoacan can get ya through the year huh

my old roofing contractor hasn't done anything but clone, trim and dry for the last five years, I got to be honest, the way pot laws are nowadays I feel like a sucker playing things legit

[3geese4me]

Mypers, which is the governing authority for this program is stating that it will just be like the 20 year retirement system that is in place currently. The only difference will be that instead of a 50% pension, I will only get 37.5%. Which is going to be only a difference of around $400 dollars for me. Only 4 years and 10 months to go.

[AKPirate]

Mypers, which is the governing authority for this program is stating that it will just be like the 20 year retirement system that is in place currently. The only difference will be that instead of a 50% pension, I will only get 37.5%. Which is going to be only a difference of around $400 dollars for me. Only 4 years and 10 months to go.

Check this out. http://www.jqpublic-blog.com/?p=569 Can you get a bonus at 15 years?

[Eric Haynes]

Mypers, which is the governing authority for this program is stating that it will just be like the 20 year retirement system that is in place currently. The only difference will be that instead of a 50% pension, I will only get 37.5%. Which is going to be only a difference of around $400 dollars for me. Only 4 years and 10 months to go.

Check this out. http://www.jqpublic-blog.com/?p=569 Can you get a bonus at 15 years?

You can receive bonuses up until your 20 year mark. After that you don't receive them.

[AKPirate]

Mypers, which is the governing authority for this program is stating that it will just be like the 20 year retirement system that is in place currently. The only difference will be that instead of a 50% pension, I will only get 37.5%. Which is going to be only a difference of around $400 dollars for me. Only 4 years and 10 months to go.

Check this out. http://www.jqpublic-blog.com/?p=569 Can you get a bonus at 15 years?

You can receive bonuses up until your 20 year mark. After that you don't receive them.

[3geese4me]

I am not sure if I could punch out at 15 and collect the bonus. I think those that take that bonus have to do the full 20 or risk the chance of having to pay back the bonus or at least parts of it. But, I have also heard of some people getting a waiver stating that they did not have to repay the bonus. Wouldn't hurt to ask though when the time comes.

[3geese4me]

Eric are you talking about career field bonuses or the redux that gets offered to every service member at their 15 year mark? I think AK is talking about the redux in that article he posted.

[AKPirate]

I am not sure if I could punch out at 15 and collect the bonus. I think those that take that bonus have to do the full 20 or risk the chance of having to pay back the bonus or at least parts of it. But, I have also heard of some people getting a waiver stating that they did not have to repay the bonus. Wouldn't hurt to ask though when the time comes.

Yeah, I would take any bonus you can. Even if you have to pay it back, free interest. The guys that took the bonus were the smart ones in this case.

[3geese4me]

I am not sure if I could punch out at 15 and collect the bonus. I think those that take that bonus have to do the full 20 or risk the chance of having to pay back the bonus or at least parts of it. But, I have also heard of some people getting a waiver stating that they did not have to repay the bonus. Wouldn't hurt to ask though when the time comes.

Yeah, I would take any bonus you can. Even if you have to pay it back, free interest. The guys that took the bonus were the smart ones in this case.

Yep they sure are. Ill email our manpower section and ping them for some answers. Would be interesting to see what they have to say.

[quackills]

I am not sure if I could punch out at 15 and collect the bonus. I think those that take that bonus have to do the full 20 or risk the chance of having to pay back the bonus or at least parts of it. But, I have also heard of some people getting a waiver stating that they did not have to repay the bonus. Wouldn't hurt to ask though when the time comes.

Yeah, I would take any bonus you can. Even if you have to pay it back, free interest. The guys that took the bonus were the smart ones in this case.

Actually this so called bonus is really not that great REDUX, at 15 years you can choose to take the bonus which enables you to stay till 20 at 40% retirement or go all the way to 30 years to get your 50 % retirement. I've seen to many people pizz their bonus away and then get out at 20 with only 40 %.

oh and that 30 grand is about 21K after 28% tax is taken out. Not worth it IMO

[3geese4me]

The financial advisers on base here even said taking the redux is a bad idea. The only way according to them, for it to be a good idea is if you invested it aggressively and hoped to god you didn't lose your ass.

[Olly]

If the CG was offering early outs right now I would take it in a heart beat. Use my GI bill to go to school and float myself for another 4 years while getting a degree and figure it out from there.

[3geese4me]

If I didn't have a family, I would be gone as well. Same plan as you too.

[DC727]

They're asking for volunteers here to get out.

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[Olly]

They're asking for volunteers here to get out.

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Hopefully the CG will ask for some soon.

[DC727]

Idk what I want to do lol

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[Olly]

Idk what I want to do lol

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The military is fucking awesome when you're young and don't want to settle down. When you get old enough and the desire to own some land, raise a family and just stay in one spot kicks in it'll suck.