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Blackheads

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:46 pm
by Bufflehead
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decoy net with about nine or ten dozen decoys on it. takes about four or five minutes to put out and two and a half minutes to take up by myself. can put it out quicker when it's blowing a little
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Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:58 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
Saw quite a few of those rigs when we hunted down east...we made one but it was just a cluster in deep water, so we scrapped it.

It would be awesome, we just couldn't get it to work.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:02 pm
by Bufflehead
the deepest i've hunted with it is about 13' but most of the time we are in 8' or less.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:04 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
If looks good in your photos, we tried it in 20' and it was marginal- took on a serious hourglass shape. It was definitely better in shallower water.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:05 pm
by obxbufflehead
Were those pictures taken on the west side?

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:31 pm
by Bufflehead
obxbufflehead wrote:Were those pictures taken on the west side?

they were taken on the west side of something


fucking cyberscout :lol:


there's a load of ducks where you were the day you saw me with my float blind. all the way up in there, not out where i was

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:36 pm
by Bufflehead
DeadEye_Dan wrote:If looks good in your photos, we tried it in 20' and it was marginal- took on a serious hourglass shape. It was definitely better in shallower water.

you can see a little hour glass shape in the first pic. that's in about 8' and the tide was running hard across the wind. in deep water there's just no way to get the anchors tight enough. we hang sash weights about 5' down each anchor line in deeper water and it helps some but i don't think it would make any difference in that deep

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:02 pm
by obxbufflehead
Bufflehead wrote:
obxbufflehead wrote:Were those pictures taken on the west side?

they were taken on the west side of something


fucking cyberscout :lol:


there's a load of ducks where you were the day you saw me with my float blind. all the way up in there, not out where i was

I knew I would catch hell for that :lol:


I'm sure there are. To bad I'm not 15. I would take my sister next weekend but my boats in the shop.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:02 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
We tried 6 anchors (corners and sides) and finally just realized that we weren't going to get a better rig than our long lines for our situation.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:34 am
by NuffDaddy
What's the size and kind of the net you used? Looks good.


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Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:44 am
by obxbufflehead
NuffDaddy wrote:What's the size and kind of the net you used? Looks good.


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Knowing where bufflehead and I are both from, its probably one of these 3.
1. An old shrimp net that he cut.
2. An old gillnet.
3. A net that he tied just for this.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:17 pm
by Bufflehead
netting is 1-3/4" strecthed mesh - #15 twine nylon netting . 200 meshes deep. #9 nylon crab pot line for the border. hung in place with #18 tarred twine.


200 mesh deep hangs a net about 13', length depends on how much you buy. the one in the picture is about 22' or 23'. i've a got couple shorter ones and one that is a little longer.

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Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:20 pm
by Bufflehead
and it's dipped in latex paint

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Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:37 pm
by Bufflehead
and you want to use NYLON. you can use poly but it floats, paint doesn't stick to it and it pulls back together bad (causing it to want to get the hour glass shape way worse).

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:16 pm
by NuffDaddy
Cool thanks. :thumbsup:


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Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:20 pm
by Flightstopper
Bufflehead wrote:and it's dipped in latex paint

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Looks like a clusterfuck of mass proportions at o' dark thirty on the water. "Hour glass shape" turn the birds that bad?

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:35 pm
by assateague
That's what I was thinking. Seems like people would hear me swearing for about 6 miles across the water when I was trying to put that out.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:45 pm
by Bufflehead
Flightstopper wrote:
Bufflehead wrote:and it's dipped in latex paint

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Looks like a clusterfuck of mass proportions at o' dark thirty on the water. "Hour glass shape" turn the birds that bad?
the problem with the hour glass shape is the net will only be spread out a couple feet wide in the middle and all the decoys will be bumping.


as fas being a clusterfuck, the singles i spread around it are a bigger pain in the ass and definitely more time consuming.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:57 pm
by Eric Haynes
You don't run any lines?

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:13 pm
by Bufflehead
Eric Haynes wrote:You don't run any lines?
i've got longlines too but i don't usualy use them. only in deep water or if i want a bigger spread, think i used them twice this year. for divers i have around 250-275 on nets, 40 or 50 singles and about 10 dozen on longlines.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:19 pm
by Flightstopper
Bufflehead wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:
Bufflehead wrote:and it's dipped in latex paint

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Looks like a clusterfuck of mass proportions at o' dark thirty on the water. "Hour glass shape" turn the birds that bad?
the problem with the hour glass shape is the net will only be spread out a couple feet wide in the middle and all the decoys will be bumping.


as fas being a clusterfuck, the singles i spread around it are a bigger pain in the ass and definitely more time consuming.


Ill take your word for it since I have zero experience and would be talking out my ass if I said any different. Still looks like just the rig Jehler has been looking for to finally take Jgun down.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:35 pm
by QH's Paw
I really like the looks of those G&H bills. Clyde bought some this year and they look good on the water. Only thing I don't like about them is the swivel head, they always end up with their heads turned on their back.
As for the nets, they look good but, our tides run from 6-10' so it would be tough to set them tight for the whole tide cycle.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:04 pm
by assateague
Maybe you could just anchor the running side, and let the trailing side float?

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:08 pm
by Eric Haynes
assateague wrote:Maybe you could just anchor the running side, and let the trailing side float?


tried that with two parallel long lines before because I was short an anchor....doesn't work too well

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:44 pm
by Willie
Trick too is to use danforth anchors on the upwind corners so you can pull it tight to get it stretched out.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:10 pm
by 3legged_lab
I saw some blueheads today.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:12 pm
by The Duck Hammer
3legged_lab wrote:I saw some blueheads today.

I saw some red heads while fishing.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:53 am
by huntfishnv
Bufflehead wrote:netting is 1-3/4" strecthed mesh - #15 twine nylon netting . 200 meshes deep. #9 nylon crab pot line for the border. hung in place with #18 tarred twine.


200 mesh deep hangs a net about 13', length depends on how much you buy. the one in the picture is about 22' or 23'. i've a got couple shorter ones and one that is a little longer.

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I like the way that looks. What's the advantage in using something like that? I have a diver spot that I think this would be perfect for...

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:43 pm
by Willie
huntfishnv wrote:
Bufflehead wrote:netting is 1-3/4" strecthed mesh - #15 twine nylon netting . 200 meshes deep. #9 nylon crab pot line for the border. hung in place with #18 tarred twine.


200 mesh deep hangs a net about 13', length depends on how much you buy. the one in the picture is about 22' or 23'. i've a got couple shorter ones and one that is a little longer.

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I like the way that looks. What's the advantage in using something like that? I have a diver spot that I think this would be perfect for...

The advantage is being able to put an assload of decoys out real quick, and it looks like a knot of birds. Pretty effective too.

Re: Blackheads

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:51 am
by QH's Paw
There was a local guy here that tried this last year and it ended up to be such a cluster fuck he abondoned the idea after a few attempts. He had to wait for the birds to clear the net after being shot because the dog was panicking when trying to cross or access the net.
Also, like I had suspected, the current and tide made for a lot of adjusting through out the hunts he attempted.
He's not a rookie and he put in a ton of prep time, so he didn't want to give up. In the end, he said throwing 2 longlines, or even 4 lines was easier and, they don't require constant adjusting through out the tide cycles.