American treasure

American treasure

Postby Johnc » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:50 pm

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1964 1100 magnum. 30 inch modified
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Re: American treasure

Postby Rick » Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:37 am

Little surprised to see they even made 30" barrels choked anything but full.
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Re: American treasure

Postby Darren » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:58 am

A buddy's dad has one that Rick speaks of, 30" full.
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Re: American treasure

Postby Johnc » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:53 am

Majority are full. 30 inch modified rare. That’s why I bought

Most of my hunting with sx3 with extended range pattern master or 10 gauge with the same but nice to have

Only thing I have seen possibly better then extended range pattern master is the tuned by rob roberts
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Re: American treasure

Postby Rick » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:49 am

I'd never even heard of his shop until a fellow came through the blind with such a clean looking Ceracote job that I told him it was the cleanest I'd seen and asked who did it. Told me Roberts had given it whatever the full treatment is. Didn't see birds diving for the end of its barrel, but was a nice looking gun.
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Re: American treasure

Postby Johnc » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:30 am

Bore matched chokes,trigger job,lengthening or forcing cone,action polish

Sends you back printout of which loads in your desired shot size patterns best

He can also adjust point of impact if needed

I used to think all this pattermaster,rob roberts,etc...was total crap. I was wrong.

Overkill in small water situation but highly effective on low percentage follow up shooting in open water

I guarantee you my goal is too shoot geese as close as humanly possible,it just doesn’t consistently work like that anymore
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Re: American treasure

Postby Johnc » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:36 am

Social media paints a picture that differs from reality

My friends who guide are experiencing the same thing as me now,you have to damn near stand on your head to consistently kill specks out of the same pits daily now in swla

So all this easy,in your face stuff,they are not telling you those birds in those pictures were scrapped down at 40 to 50 yards over the top of the blind

It’s just that tough,very few exceptions.
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Re: American treasure

Postby Rick » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:53 am

My "goose gun," until I was given a 16ga Model 12 I'm trying to make that, was a HK imported SBE of unknown choking. Has a factory modified tube in it, but that tube split lengthwise years ago, and I subsequently twisted the barrel's end a bit trying to get it out with an easy-out. (Yes, I know what a dumb idea that was with a split tube, but was out of ideas.) Could still hit a satisfying percentage of the passing blues I'd try with it, so I never re-patterned gun for fear of losing confidence in it. Wouldn't argue for a moment that that's the best approach, just mine. Reckon I'd run out of ability before it runs out of pattern, as I've never been a really tall bird shooter.

Fwiw, "way back when..." I was running daily white spreads, I practiced estimating when a standard mail box would be sixty of my paces distant until I was spot on (and could still do it the last time I checked a couple years ago). My paces are 110 per 100yds and a flying blue's body profile somewhat smaller in depth than a standard mail box, so I figured our birds to be well within 60yds when they looked like a 60 pace mailbox. Worked out well for for us and, while I know a few guys who are spooky good at it, I've never tried to learn hit anything taller than that.

Hope the 1100 proves a keeper.
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Re: American treasure

Postby Johnc » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:19 pm

I try to use the close enough to see their eyes rule

But that’s getting really hard to consistently do. Even with good decoys,concealment,water,etc.,,

May try this mailbox reference for passing blues or when I can pull off breaking them for a good look then they leave days. They will sometimes give you a good over the top pass then go on

Now in the fog they’ll get right but those days are few
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Re: American treasure

Postby Rick » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:08 pm

I "try" to use the "See the tongue, shoot the tongue." rule, but most days I'm lucky to see the goose, much less pull it off its breakfast run to the rice.
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Re: American treasure

Postby Darren » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:29 pm

Rick wrote:I "try" to use the "See the tongue, shoot the tongue." rule, but most days I'm lucky to see the goose, much less pull it off its breakfast run to the rice.


.............says the guy who shot them in close over the mudhole with a 20 ga last season on solo hunts :D
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Re: American treasure

Postby Rick » Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:23 pm

"Them" just keep getting farther and fewer in between.
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Re: American treasure

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Re: American treasure

Postby Rick » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:56 am

Wonder why we don't seem more flying woodie mounts: that's going to be a sweet one.
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Re: American treasure

Postby Deltaman » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:15 pm

a "swoop" pose.............looking good John :thumbsup:
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Re: American treasure

Postby Duck Engr » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:40 pm

I can see that one breaking the treetops behind an old farm pond I hunted as a kid, dive bombing down below the tree line into the early morning darkness where it was only a swing and a prayer when aiming for a flash of white here and there before they retreated and were silhouetted against the sky starting to glow as the sun tried to poke its way above the horizon.
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Re: American treasure

Postby Bud » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:02 pm

Beautiful birds...used to hunt only woodies for years. The mount reminds me of a drake I shot in standing timber that returned to my call. The guy with me asked why I didn't shoot at the hen. I was wondering why he didn't. Yes, he was banded and I shot him with a camo DU gun I won: Winchester 1300 speed pump. They came down lower like that looking for company. Good looking mount.
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