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My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:45 pm
by capt1972
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still need to grass it

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:51 pm
by Redbeard
You really that big a tight ass?

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:51 pm
by Redbeard
Looks cool though

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:54 pm
by capt1972
Redbeard wrote:You really that big a tight ass?

built it on top of a jet-sled. completely water proof. and yes, I am that big of a tight ass! Had all the stuff lying around to build it

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:09 pm
by 3legged_lab
capt1972 wrote:
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still need to grass it

Never work. I can still see you in there.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:47 am
by assateague
This gives me an idea...

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:36 am
by Goldfish
assateague wrote:This gives me an idea...
to make your dog blind?

sent from a phancy fone

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:20 pm
by assateague
No, to make my "me" blind.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:25 pm
by The Duck Hammer
assateague wrote:No, to make my "me" blind.

What about Dutch?

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:38 pm
by assateague
He gets a storebought one, I suppose.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:42 pm
by jarbo03
assateague wrote:He gets a storebought one, I suppose.

Any reports on the Finisher? Don't see why it wouldn't work.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:43 pm
by jehler
Fucker makes $125 a squirrel and won't buy a damned layout blind.
Straight meat honker

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:51 pm
by assateague
jarbo03 wrote:
assateague wrote:He gets a storebought one, I suppose.

Any reports on the Finisher? Don't see why it wouldn't work.



Not yet. I know it seems foolish to worry about such a small difference, but no shit, when I go out, that hybrid is full to the gills. If I have a dog blind that'd fold up and fit in my blind bag, that'd be a big help. But it is really tall (24" vs 18"), so I'm sort of torn on that one. We'll see.

And GK, I looked for the one you were talking about, but had no luck finding it. I should've saved Layniebug's Barbie tent and spraypainted that bitch.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:37 pm
by Flightstopper
Is there no cover for him to sit in where you hunt? I've never hunted with anyone that uses one or seen it be an issue. Just always pick a covered spot and make them sit.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:48 pm
by Goldfish
Teach him to toll

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Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:52 pm
by Rick
Or lay him down and put a bit of natural cover on him if his color contrasts with the location. Or make a doggy ghille out of a square of camo netting with a few raffia bundles zip-tied to it and a length of cord tied to one corner to secure it to something or stake it down with a tent peg to keep it from going with him on retrieves.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:58 pm
by assateague
Flightstopper wrote:Is there no cover for him to sit in where you hunt? I've never hunted with anyone that uses one or seen it be an issue. Just always pick a covered spot and make them sit.



None whatsoever. Less than a cut corn field, as a matter of fact. Mostly I hunt the tumps in the bay, which are about 10" higher than low tide, and (maybe) 1" higher than high tide. But they're under water about every 3 days, and the only thing on them by the fall are the stubble of marsh grasses, often no more than 2 inches tall.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:03 pm
by 3geese4me
I have 2 Final Approach Mutt Hutt II's and love them for the record. I had a GHG ultra low dog blind that was good as well. Still have that one but it just sits on the shelf now.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:06 pm
by assateague
Like this, and this is in the summer, before the grasses die. (Sometimes even complete with horses. Sonsabitches.)


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The water just off the edge is about 3 feet deep, and the sides drop straight down. When I tie up in the hybrid next to it, worst case I'm even with the top. As the tide drops (or if it's low already), the boat is tucked right into a shelf, often putting my head just below the top of the tump when I'm reclining in the hybrid. This was last early goose. If the grass stayed like this, it wouldn't be bad. But as soon as it freezes once, the tide rolls over it the next time and takes it all away.

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Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:09 pm
by 3geese4me
Might have to make a ghili suit to blend in better.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:53 pm
by Redbeard
Rick wrote:Or lay him down and put a bit of natural cover on him if his color contrasts with the location. Or make a doggy ghille out of a square of camo netting with a few raffia bundles zip-tied to it and a length of cord tied to one corner to secure it to something or stake it down with a tent peg to keep it from going with him on retrieves.
I'm done with dog blinds. Jim take Rick's advice. It's so easy and folds up small. I do this with Charlie

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:57 pm
by Redbeard
Or you looking for something to keep the dog outta the water

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:01 pm
by Flightstopper
I made one of the pvc dog stands that works great.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:16 pm
by assateague
Redbeard wrote:Or you looking for something to keep the dog outta the water


Nope. Do you just lay it over him like a blanket? It sounds like a good idea. The only drawback I see is that I'll have to get out of the boat, onto the tump, and cover him up every time, since he won't be within arms reach

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:22 pm
by 3geese4me
assateague wrote:
Redbeard wrote:Or you looking for something to keep the dog outta the water


Nope. Do you just lay it over him like a blanket? It sounds like a good idea. The only drawback I see is that I'll have to get out of the boat, onto the tump, and cover him up every time, since he won't be within arms reach

When we hunt spring snows we just lay a piece of white cloth over them. We teach the dogs to lay down next to us and just un cover/cover whenever we need them to retrieve. So I don't think it would be too difficult to make a ghili blanket of some sort and blend in some natural vegitation and use that for cover. It really isn't a big deal to cover them back up after they retrieve.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:26 pm
by Redbeard
assateague wrote:
Redbeard wrote:Or you looking for something to keep the dog outta the water


Nope. Do you just lay it over him like a blanket? It sounds like a good idea. The only drawback I see is that I'll have to get out of the boat, onto the tump, and cover him up every time, since he won't be within arms reach
ok I can visualize your setup now. Yea you'll have to cover him up each time. But if that isn't a problem for ya, then it's the easiest method. And honestly in the grass field I hunt, it's looks more natural than any blind I've ever tried

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:04 am
by Rick
assateague wrote:
Redbeard wrote:Or you looking for something to keep the dog outta the water


Nope. Do you just lay it over him like a blanket? It sounds like a good idea. The only drawback I see is that I'll have to get out of the boat, onto the tump, and cover him up every time, since he won't be within arms reach


I'd just teach him to lay still, no matter what, and not worry about birds recognizing him as trouble as long as he's not sitting up or spinning around before you sit up to shoot. Doubt he's as apt to remind the birds of anything that's been shooting at them as he would be in a dog blind rising above the flat terrain, and would think your birds likely quite used to living around benign washed up objects. Know from experience I'd rather hunt next to a readily seen small white Brittany here than a readily seen Lab, presumably because none of our white birds, PVC water control structure or other such white spots on our landscape erupt in gunfire and Labs do.

Does sound like you'll want to work on "place" to get him to return to where you want him to hunt from, where dog blinds usually offer the advantage of providing a known location to "kennel" to.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:54 am
by assateague
This appeals to not only my sense of utility, but to my sense of cheapness. It's taken under consideration.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:16 am
by 3legged_lab
Rick wrote:
assateague wrote:
Redbeard wrote:Or you looking for something to keep the dog outta the water


Nope. Do you just lay it over him like a blanket? It sounds like a good idea. The only drawback I see is that I'll have to get out of the boat, onto the tump, and cover him up every time, since he won't be within arms reach


I'd just teach him to lay still, no matter what, and not worry about birds recognizing him as trouble as long as he's not sitting up or spinning around before you sit up to shoot. Doubt he's as apt to remind the birds of anything that's been shooting at them as he would be in a dog blind rising above the flat terrain, and would think your birds likely quite used to living around benign washed up objects. Know from experience I'd rather hunt next to a readily seen small white Brittany here than a readily seen Lab, presumably because none of our white birds, PVC water control structure or other such white spots on our landscape erupt in gunfire and Labs do.

Does sound like you'll want to work on "place" to get him to return to where you want him to hunt from, where dog blinds usually offer the advantage of providing a known location to "kennel" to.

I talked to a guy on the refuge one day who taught his lab to "place" on a small rubbery back seat floor mat. Whether it was in the boat or on the ground, he knew his place. I always thought it was a good idea.

Re: My Homemade Layout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:43 am
by Rick
The old Texas trainer, Hank Tullis, who I got it from years before I'd heard of "place' training used a mat, too, and the command "mat". When I teach it, we begin in the house with a towel called "station," and once Pup has that down, the station becomes first a wash rag, then a hat or glove and finally, with most, just the place I lay them down with the command "station". A couple did, however, require an object they could identify/smell(?) to always return to and remain at the proper spot.