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Just learn this knot

Postby aunt betty » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:50 pm

Have taken a few people hunting and fishing and it really disturbs me that I can't seem to teach anyone how I like to tie up my boat. It's called a "cleat hitch". Learn how to do it with gloves on and I'll be very happy.

I've heard that it's incredibly stupid to **** around with a crazy man's head.
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby Throbbin Rods » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:53 am

I'm with you, Some of the people I hunt and fish with tie knots that look like a boy scout troop practice room. "That knot won't hold my boat..." Unbelievable
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby SpinnerMan » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:18 am

What do they do with a cleat? I'm not good with knots, but tying off to a cleat. Come on.
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby aunt betty » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:51 am

What happens is someone ties a real knot with a wet rope, it freezes, then you're sort of ****.
I don't use water-ski ropes except on the anchor which you'll never see.
I've heard that it's incredibly stupid to **** around with a crazy man's head.
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby Deltaman » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:59 am

Can't help but laugh when I see a knotty mess tied on a boat cleat at the dock :lol:
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby aunt betty » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:43 pm

Deltaman wrote:Can't help but laugh when I see a knotty mess tied on a boat cleat at the dock :lol:

It's a source of constant amusement at the city-slicker lake I go to.
Last time I was there got to watch a huge pontoon boat slide right off the trailer.
Crowd of onlookers. There were stuck bigtime blocking the entire ramp til I said "push the boat down the ramp into the water and try again".
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby outboardman » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:18 am

On the anchor you need to use Twisted nylon rope it stretches a bit which helps with the load on the anchor. That polypropylene ski line does not stretch
aunt betty wrote:What happens is someone ties a real knot with a wet rope, it freezes, then you're sort of ****.
I don't use water-ski ropes except on the anchor which you'll never see.


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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby outboardman » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:19 am

Oh and a short piece of chain between the anchor and rope really adds to the holding power
outboardman wrote:On the anchor you need to use Twisted nylon rope it stretches a bit which helps with the load on the anchor. That polypropylene ski line does not stretch
aunt betty wrote:What happens is someone ties a real knot with a wet rope, it freezes, then you're sort of ****.
I don't use water-ski ropes except on the anchor which you'll never see.


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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby aunt betty » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:40 am

Right now today my anchor has a really long skinny black bungee cord and about 100 feet of black parachute cord. (jerk rig)
It's all I use the anchor for.
They came with ski-ropes. My old man's. Too bad they still ain't attached to the Ranger they came off of. 250-horse that sucker would fly. Wheeeeee. 70 on water is scary fast.
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby Darren » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:22 pm

Big fan of that knot for all cleat work around my boats. Brother-in-law is an Eagle Scout; can't tie off a boat to save his life.

Really lowers my esteem for the Scouting community and what they're really achieving through all those ranks, badges, etc.
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby Rick » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:09 pm

SpinnerMan wrote:What do they do with a cleat?


Most of the guys helping me out just criss-cross it over the cleat 85 times. Which I'm sure would hold just fine, but bugs me enough that I'll sneak back in the shed to unwrap and hitch it.
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby aunt betty » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:37 am

I always get the guys that thread the rope thru the center of the dock cleat and tie a granny knot. Sad when a guy don't know what a two half hitch or a trot-line hitch is.
Boy scouts taught me the knots but the airborne infantry made me actually use and remember them.
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby Rick » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:16 am

aunt betty wrote:...but the airborne infantry made me actually use and remember them.


I was only airborne "infantry" with the 82nd at Bragg, but never saw a boat cleat.
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby aunt betty » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:18 am

Rick wrote:
aunt betty wrote:...but the airborne infantry made me actually use and remember them.


I was only airborne "infantry" with the 82nd at Bragg, but never saw a boat cleat.
Nah you gotsa have Marine in-laws to get showed that one. They don't use the Pally more one either.
My dad taught me that knot and he was a wing waxer. We had a ski boat. Now that he's gone I get to think of him each time I tie up the boat. His old boat. It's nice and doesn't attract a lot of attention. Does everything an outdoorsman wants.
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby Rick » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:54 am

Dad was scared of water (didn't face that phobia and learn to swim until in his 60s), and the only nautical job of my youth was as a deckhand on the WW Holloway, perhaps best known for being the Great Lakes freighter the Blues Brothers jumped. Lots of bollards and bitts, but no cleats I recall and nothing but heave lines small enough to hitch, anyway. But I'd like to think I'd at least picked up on getting a small boat securely tied off before study for the "general seamanship" portion of the USCG ("6-pack) captain's test required it. Maybe not, as that wasn't yesterday, either.

Anyway, youtube's the bomb for such.
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Re: Just learn this knot

Postby Rick » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:45 pm

Gun Dawg wrote:
aunt betty wrote:What happens is someone ties a real knot with a wet rope, it freezes, then you're sort of ****.
I don't use water-ski ropes except on the anchor which you'll never see.


We call them hatchet knots.


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