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Postby assateague » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:33 pm

Anybody have any links for a sculling oar/hardware? I've been thinking about rigging something up on the motor mount of my hybrid, and try to scull it, rather than paddle. It sways side to side tremendously, and I was thinking that a sculling motion will probably make it go straighter, and give me more bang for my buck when paddling, so to speak. Whenever I Google it, I just get a bunch of those gay college rowing team-type scull boats, and that's not what I'm looking for. Any search tips or links would be greatly appreciated.
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Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:06 pm

Jim just google "waterfowling sculling." I'd post links for ya but I don't know how. There's a few sculling forums as well as boat manufacturers.

In regards to your hybrid swaying side to side, I'm assuming you have a keel on it. Every scull boat I've seen and used has a keel. An amateur sculler usually ha problems keeping his boat straight. I still do at times.

I'm also not sure you'd get more bang for your buck compared to paddling. Sculling is exhausting. Not near as easy as paddling. What about putting oar locks on your rig and rowing?
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Re: Sculling

Postby duckkillerclyde » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:17 pm

Redbeard wrote:Jim just google "waterfowling sculling." I'd post links for ya but I don't know how. There's a few sculling forums as well as boat manufacturers.

In regards to your hybrid swaying side to side, I'm assuming you have a keel on it. Every scull boat I've seen and used has a keel. An amateur sculler usually ha problems keeping his boat straight. I still do at times.

I'm also not sure you'd get more bang for your buck compared to paddling. Sculling is exhausting. Not near as easy as paddling. What about putting oar locks on your rig and rowing?



I've only ever been in one scull boat and It was a lot easier to use a kayak paddle.

There is a company here in oregon that builds scull boats and paddles. I'll try and find a link.
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Re: Sculling

Postby duckkillerclyde » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:19 pm

http://boat-manufacturers.findthebest.c ... cull-Boats


status says they're out of business. ???? This is the company I was thinking of.
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Postby Redbeard » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:01 pm

A lot of the old scull boat builders are outta business on account it was a dying art. Although it as of late, it's starting to come back alittle
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Postby assateague » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:41 pm

I may have been mistaken. I thought sculling was closer to what the gondoliers in Venice did, pushing more from the center of the back, rather than paddling from the sides. I'll have to check in to it more.
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Re: Sculling

Postby QH's Paw » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:52 pm

assateague wrote:I may have been mistaken. I thought sculling was closer to what the gondoliers in Venice did, pushing more from the center of the back, rather than paddling from the sides. I'll have to check in to it more.

You're right. The handoar goes through a hole in the back of the boat and you kind of swish it around in an "S" pattern to push the boat.
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Re: Sculling

Postby duckkillerclyde » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:08 pm

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assateague wrote:I may have been mistaken. I thought sculling was closer to what the gondoliers in Venice did, pushing more from the center of the back, rather than paddling from the sides. I'll have to check in to it more.

You're right. The handoar goes through a hole in the back of the boat and you kind of swish it around in an "S" pattern to push the boat.


It's all in the wrist motion.

The boat I was in used a paddle about 10' long handle and about 3' of 'paddle' area. It was no more than 6'' wide. It had a semi-crescent shape and you had to rotate the paddle about 1/3 or a turn between strokes.

You only end up using your wrist and elbow.
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Re: Sculling

Postby duckkillerclyde » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:11 am

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Re: Sculling

Postby duckkillerclyde » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:14 am

This is the exact boat I was in.

That photo was obnoxiously large.


Look at this link and this is the guy that builds them. I have only met him once but he let me scull around in his boat. Nice guy.


http://forbesjonassonguideservice.com/w ... nting.html



I met him at marsh boat days that we had a few months ago.
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Re: Sculling

Postby duckkillerclyde » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:19 am

guy on the left, that is.
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Re: Sculling

Postby duckkillerclyde » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:25 am

typically when you say scull boat, it's a very long fairly narrow very pointed boat. The scull boat I was in was at least 15' long. While sculling, the owner of the boat could make it move almost as fast as an aquapod that was paddling. While sculling the boat was absolutely SILENT. Very cool if you have the patience to learn how to do it correctly.
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Re: Sculling

Postby QH's Paw » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:08 am

Clyde, that is not the type of sculling I'm talking about. Basically, you are talking about oars in oar locks. True sculling for hunting purpose, you have a single oar that literally sticks out a hole in the transom or aft end. You are laying in the boat, not sitting up rowing.
The type of oar I am talking about is not straight, it is offset.
Maybe Red can explain better, I think he has a scull for hunting but, I am assuming it is a hunting scull that you lay and row.
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Postby Redbeard » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:40 am

QH's Paw wrote:Clyde, that is not the type of sculling I'm talking about. Basically, you are talking about oars in oar locks. True sculling for hunting purpose, you have a single oar that literally sticks out a hole in the transom or aft end. You are laying in the boat, not sitting up rowing.
The type of oar I am talking about is not straight, it is offset.
Maybe Red can explain better, I think he has a scull for hunting but, I am assuming it is a hunting scull that you lay and row.

QH...it seems you are both describing the same thing, just differently. If you click on Clyde's link and scroll down to the two scull boat pictures, you can see the sculling oar resting in the back of the boat behind the hunter.

Most all scull boats are equipped with oar locks. A hunter may launch his boat but may not actually start his "scull" for quite some time. Rowing is much easier and efficient for traveling distances. It also saves your shoulder. Sculling is hard on your shoulder. It can be exhausting for a rook who hasn't developed those muscles yet.

For anyone looking to try something new in the waterfowling realm, I highly recommend you try sculling. It is a real challenge. There really is an art to it.

I'll break my scull boat out on those sunny, blue bird days when nothing's moving and I'll go to them
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Re: Sculling

Postby duckkillerclyde » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:18 pm

Redbeard wrote: If you click on Clyde's link and scroll down to the two scull boat pictures, you can see the sculling oar resting in the back of the boat behind the hunter.




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Postby QH's Paw » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:13 pm

Redbeard wrote:
QH's Paw wrote:Clyde, that is not the type of sculling I'm talking about. Basically, you are talking about oars in oar locks. True sculling for hunting purpose, you have a single oar that literally sticks out a hole in the transom or aft end. You are laying in the boat, not sitting up rowing.
The type of oar I am talking about is not straight, it is offset.
Maybe Red can explain better, I think he has a scull for hunting but, I am assuming it is a hunting scull that you lay and row.

QH...it seems you are both describing the same thing, just differently. If you click on Clyde's link and scroll down to the two scull boat pictures, you can see the sculling oar resting in the back of the boat behind the hunter.

Most all scull boats are equipped with oar locks. A hunter may launch his boat but may not actually start his "scull" for quite some time. Rowing is much easier and efficient for traveling distances. It also saves your shoulder. Sculling is hard on your shoulder. It can be exhausting for a rook who hasn't developed those muscles yet.

For anyone looking to try something new in the waterfowling realm, I highly recommend you try sculling. It is a real challenge. There really is an art to it.

I'll break my scull boat out on those sunny, blue bird days when nothing's moving and I'll go to them

I guess when he said the oar was 10' long and the blade portion was 3' by 6" and then showed pictures of raft or driftboat oars, I thought that was what he meant. I don't remember ever seeing a sculling oar longer than 4-5'.
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Re: Sculling

Postby duckkillerclyde » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:15 pm

there is a scull boat for sale in sacramento $400 on the craigslist.
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Postby assateague » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:07 am

I still may have to look into it more. Seems like it may work for me in some situations.
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Re: Sculling

Postby josh ward » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:28 am

Sculling is an art form, seeped in tradition.....one of my favorite ways to hunt.
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Re: Sculling

Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:22 am

QH's Paw wrote:I guess when he said the oar was 10' long and the blade portion was 3' by 6" and then showed pictures of raft or driftboat oars, I thought that was what he meant. I don't remember ever seeing a sculling oar longer than 4-5'.

The sculling oar on my dad's boat is about 7 1/2 feet long.
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Re: Sculling

Postby Baysider » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:45 pm

A little different boat but I think its the same method of propulsion. A great bit of history for our area too.

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Postby Redbeard » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:12 pm

Been helping an old time sculler train his chessie. As a gesture of his gratitude he gave me a sculling oar he just made. This things very sweet. Can't wait to break er in
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Re: Sculling

Postby 3legged_lab » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:40 pm

Redbeard wrote:Been helping an old time sculler train his chessie. As a gesture of his gratitude he gave me a sculling oar he just made. This things very sweet. Can't wait to break er in
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Dayum, that thing is razor thin.
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Postby Redbeard » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:37 am

3legged_lab wrote:
Redbeard wrote:Been helping an old time sculler train his chessie. As a gesture of his gratitude he gave me a sculling oar he just made. This things very sweet. Can't wait to break er in
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Dayum, that thing is razor thin.

it is. Very flexible. The more flexible it is, the easier it is to handle your boat.
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Postby Flightstopper » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:51 pm

Your gomna have to make some video next time your out. It would be even better if you could get video of the paddle in the water
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Postby Redbeard » Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:03 pm

Flightstopper wrote:Your gomna have to make some video next time your out. It would be even better if you could get video of the paddle in the water

I'll see what I can do
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Re: Sculling

Postby josh ward » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:03 pm

I like quite a bit of flex in my sculling oar ...
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Postby Redbeard » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:04 pm

josh ward wrote:I like quite a bit of flex in my sculling oar ...

let's see your boat josh
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