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Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:21 pm**

I have a 56lb 12/24v motor guide. I have it hooked up fright to 12 volt and it's slow as shit. My dad's 45lb minnkota pushes it a lot faster.
So my question is...will switching it over to 24 volt give me more thrust??

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:26 pm**

I don't know why that would make it faster. Do you hit bottom a lot with it?

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:27 pm**

NuffDaddy wrote:I have a 56lb 12/24v motor guide. I have it hooked up fright to 12 volt and it's slow as shit. My dad's 45lb minnkota pushes it a lot faster.
So my question is...will switching it over to 24 volt give me more thrust??

no

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:35 pm**

Bootlipkiller wrote:I don't know why that would make it faster. Do you hit bottom a lot with it?

Some but not a lot.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:35 pm**

capt1972 wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:I have a 56lb 12/24v motor guide. I have it hooked up fright to 12 volt and it's slow as shit. My dad's 45lb minnkota pushes it a lot faster.
So my question is...will switching it over to 24 volt give me more thrust??

no

So what's the point of it being 12/24 volt then?

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:39 pm**

NuffDaddy wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:I have a 56lb 12/24v motor guide. I have it hooked up fright to 12 volt and it's slow as shit. My dad's 45lb minnkota pushes it a lot faster.
So my question is...will switching it over to 24 volt give me more thrust??

no

So what's the point of it being 12/24 volt then?

24 volts uses less amps thus longer battery life.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:39 pm**

NuffDaddy wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:I have a 56lb 12/24v motor guide. I have it hooked up fright to 12 volt and it's slow as shit. My dad's 45lb minnkota pushes it a lot faster.
So my question is...will switching it over to 24 volt give me more thrust??

no

So what's the point of it being 12/24 volt then?

Im not an electrical genious, but it has to do with the amperage draw is more when running off 12V and would drain a battery faster than a lower draw at 24V. Sort of the same reasoning why a 220V water heater is more efficient than a 110V heater.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:39 pm**

doh, he beat me too it.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:41 pm**

Yeah. It uses half the amps. But it takes 2 batteries to get you to 24 v so it doesn't make a difference.

So the motor is probably shot then?

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:43 pm**

NuffDaddy wrote:Yeah. It uses half the amps. But it takes 2 batteries to get you to 24 v so it doesn't make a difference.

So the motor is probably shot then?

two batteries but less draw in the long run.
Your prop could be a big part of it too.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:43 pm**

Time to make a mallard machine

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:51 pm**

BrewGUN wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Yeah. It uses half the amps. But it takes 2 batteries to get you to 24 v so it doesn't make a difference.

So the motor is probably shot then?

two batteries but less draw in the long run.
Your prop could be a big part of it too.

It really makes no difference. It's a pretty big debate in bowfishing forums with 12 vs 24 volt run time. Couple guys did tests and found that there is no difference if wired properly. Just need bigger wire for 12v.

My prop is brand new because I thought that was the problem.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:51 pm**

NuffDaddy wrote:Yeah. It uses half the amps. But it takes 2 batteries to get you to 24 v so it doesn't make a difference.

So the motor is probably shot then?

I had a buddy who lost a few speeds on his trolling motor because he was constantly going through vegetation and hitting bottom. Maybe you striped a gear.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:52 pm**

Bootlipkiller wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Yeah. It uses half the amps. But it takes 2 batteries to get you to 24 v so it doesn't make a difference.

So the motor is probably shot then?

I had a buddy who lost a few speeds on his trolling motor because he was constantly going through vegetation and hitting bottom. Maybe you striped a gear.

I'm gonna crack into it sometime and see if anything looks fucked up on the inside.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:52 pm**

The battery could be shit. How long does it usually last?

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:53 pm**

Maybe this means it's time for a pusher fan on my boat.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:54 pm**

rebelp74 wrote:The battery could be shit. How long does it usually last?

New batteries too. Lasts about 3-4 hours per battery.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:51 pm**

Bootlipkiller wrote:I don't know why that would make it faster. Do you hit bottom a lot with it?

I do. Every time I use "it".

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:56 pm**

assateague wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:I don't know why that would make it faster. Do you hit bottom a lot with it?

I do. Every time I use "it".

don't lie!

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:56 pm**

assateague wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:I don't know why that would make it faster. Do you hit bottom a lot with it?

I do. Every time I use "it".

So cool...

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:11 pm**

Bootlipkiller wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Yeah. It uses half the amps. But it takes 2 batteries to get you to 24 v so it doesn't make a difference.

So the motor is probably shot then?

I had a buddy who lost a few speeds on his trolling motor because he was constantly going through vegetation and hitting bottom. Maybe you striped a gear.

Do electric trolling motors have gears?

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:12 pm**

Have you taken it apart and cleaned it?

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:13 pm**

Tiler_J wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Yeah. It uses half the amps. But it takes 2 batteries to get you to 24 v so it doesn't make a difference.

So the motor is probably shot then?

I had a buddy who lost a few speeds on his trolling motor because he was constantly going through vegetation and hitting bottom. Maybe you striped a gear.

Do electric trolling motors have gears?

Boot said they did. Don't you trust him?

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:14 pm**

Tiler_J wrote:Have you taken it apart and cleaned it?

He didn't take it apart, just washed and waxed the outside 5 times.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:15 pm**

Tiler_J wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Yeah. It uses half the amps. But it takes 2 batteries to get you to 24 v so it doesn't make a difference.

So the motor is probably shot then?

I had a buddy who lost a few speeds on his trolling motor because he was constantly going through vegetation and hitting bottom. Maybe you striped a gear.

Do electric trolling motors have gears?

Probably has some sort of planetary gear, I'd imagine.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:19 pm**

Is it a tiller or foot controlled?

3 to 4 hours run time doesn't seem to long to me unless your running it wide open with a heavy load.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:28 pm**

Bootlipkiller wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Yeah. It uses half the amps. But it takes 2 batteries to get you to 24 v so it doesn't make a difference.

So the motor is probably shot then?

I had a buddy who lost a few speeds on his trolling motor because he was constantly going through vegetation and hitting bottom. Maybe you striped a gear.

Yea check the gear oil. Might be low. :wink:

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:29 pm**

assateague wrote:
Tiler_J wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Yeah. It uses half the amps. But it takes 2 batteries to get you to 24 v so it doesn't make a difference.

So the motor is probably shot then?

I had a buddy who lost a few speeds on his trolling motor because he was constantly going through vegetation and hitting bottom. Maybe you striped a gear.

Do electric trolling motors have gears?

Probably has some sort of planetary gear, I'd imagine.

I though it was just an electric motor with an output shaft directly to the prop.

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:29 pm**

Tiler_J wrote:Have you taken it apart and cleaned it?

No. What's there to clean?

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:30 pm**

triplecurl wrote:Is it a tiller or foot controlled?

3 to 4 hours run time doesn't seem to long to me unless your running it wide open with a heavy load.

Cable foot control.
It's wide open all the time. On and off a lot. And usually a heavy load.

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