For all the boat experts

[Tomkat]

http://youtu.be/DBRKCDa3kvc

[Flightstopper]

How fast did it go?

[3legged_lab]

Impressive.

[rebelp74]

[NuffDaddy]

They look like they go a lot faster on their youtube promos.

[The Duck Hammer]

Lookin good TK. Flippin the bird was a nice touch.

[Feelin' Fowl]

They look like they go a lot faster on their youtube promos.

Probably getting comfortable before going full throttle...

[gila-river]

What kinda boat is that TK?

[Tomkat]

I opened it up in deeper water. All of those vids were in shallow water. Some places less than a foot. The Refuge Runner was really good, I can see why people like them. It has torque and speed. Its Not a James Bond or AB race boat, it just needs to carry me and Brandy upriver and I know that wont be a problem. In fact i could use her weight up front when I throttle up.

Best of all is I built it Assacheap.

[one2many]

i didnt see the beer holder WTF!

[Feelin' Fowl]

What kinda boat is that TK?

I think it's a Four Rivers Refuge Runner

[Goldfish]

I would look into trying to put a cavitation plate on it. Also, make sure you keep that prop out of the water when starting it. A kid that was looking at a long tail I sold a couple seasons ago tried to talk like he knew all about mud motors, but he didn't know they were direct drive... and tried to start it with the prop in the water and about went out the back of his little Jon boat.

[Feelin' Fowl]

I would look into trying to put a cavitation plate on it. Also, make sure you keep that prop out of the water when starting it. A kid that was looking at a long tail I sold a couple seasons ago tried to talk like he knew all about mud motors, but he didn't know they were direct drive... and tried to start it with the prop in the water and about went out the back of his little Jon boat.

Why a cavitation plate for a long tail?

[3legged_lab]

I would look into trying to put a cavitation plate on it. Also, make sure you keep that prop out of the water when starting it. A kid that was looking at a long tail I sold a couple seasons ago tried to talk like he knew all about mud motors, but he didn't know they were direct drive... and tried to start it with the prop in the water and about went out the back of his little Jon boat.

Why a cavitation plate for a long tail?

To keep the prop covered up with water.

Mine had one

[Feelin' Fowl]

I would look into trying to put a cavitation plate on it. Also, make sure you keep that prop out of the water when starting it. A kid that was looking at a long tail I sold a couple seasons ago tried to talk like he knew all about mud motors, but he didn't know they were direct drive... and tried to start it with the prop in the water and about went out the back of his little Jon boat.

Why a cavitation plate for a long tail?

To keep the prop covered up with water.

Mine had one

I'm not going to pretend like I know about them, but aren't they meant to run in a few inches of water with the prop partially sticking out of the water if necessary?

[3legged_lab]

I would look into trying to put a cavitation plate on it. Also, make sure you keep that prop out of the water when starting it. A kid that was looking at a long tail I sold a couple seasons ago tried to talk like he knew all about mud motors, but he didn't know they were direct drive... and tried to start it with the prop in the water and about went out the back of his little Jon boat.

Why a cavitation plate for a long tail?

To keep the prop covered up with water.

Mine had one

I'm not going to pretend like I know about them, but aren't they meant to run in a few inches of water with the prop partially sticking out of the water if necessary?

Ya, if necessary. But if its a hard bottom you'll have to hit it already on plane. Need lots of traction (water or mud) to get up on plane though. My cav plate had a trim tab on the back, they told me to bend it up or down to get the cav plate to ride just under the surface without popping up or diving with little force on the stick.

[Feelin' Fowl]

Ok. I've been looking at the long tail kits for my carsten. Any info is good info at this point.

[3legged_lab]

Plate not required though.

[Feelin' Fowl]

Plate not required though.

How much/how often does it help? I would be in a rocky river or a muddy river basin for the most part.

[Bootlipkiller]

Plate not required though.

How much/how often does it help? I would be in a rocky river or a muddy river basin for the most part.

Why the hell does a hippo need a boat?

[3legged_lab]

Plate not required though.

How much/how often does it help? I would be in a rocky river or a muddy river basin for the most part.

I honestly couldnt give a comparison, I've never driven one without a cav plate.

[3legged_lab]

Plate not required though.

How much/how often does it help? I would be in a rocky river or a muddy river basin for the most part.

Why the hell does a hippo need a boat?

:lol::lol::lol:

[Feelin' Fowl]

Plate not required though.

How much/how often does it help? I would be in a rocky river or a muddy river basin for the most part.

Why the hell does a hippo need a boat?

The water gets cold!

[Bootlipkiller]

Plate not required though.

How much/how often does it help? I would be in a rocky river or a muddy river basin for the most part.

Why the hell does a hippo need a boat?

The water gets cold!

Bitch please, you're to busy flicking poo with your tail to be cold.

[Feelin' Fowl]

Plate not required though.

How much/how often does it help? I would be in a rocky river or a muddy river basin for the most part.

Why the hell does a hippo need a boat?

The water gets cold!

Bitch please, you're to busy flicking poo with your tail to be cold.

[Goldfish]

The cav plate makes it a whole lot easier on you because without it you are going to constantly be holding the motor where you want it to be. The cav plate will act as a wing once properly set so you aren't constantly muscling the motor.

While it is true that having the prop ever so slightly getting air (surfacing) can make you go faster because the prop can spin faster due to the less resistance of the air, it's not going to be a might and day difference.

As for running shallow rocky areas, I might look into a rock guard if you are not planning on using the mud motor to literally push you thru mud and vegetation. Especially if you are looking at the Thai kits that use an aluminum prop.

[Feelin' Fowl]

The cav plate makes it a whole lot easier on you because without it you are going to constantly be holding the motor where you want it to be. The cav plate will act as a wing once properly set so you aren't constantly muscling the motor.

While it is true that having the prop ever so slightly getting air (surfacing) can make you go faster because the prop can spin faster due to the less resistance of the air, it's not going to be a might and day difference.

As for running shallow rocky areas, I might look into a rock guard if you are not planning on using the mud motor to literally push you thru mud and vegetation. Especially if you are looking at the Thai kits that use an aluminum prop.

Thanks, Goldie.

[Tomkat]

Thanks Gordon. Looking forward to many hours of fun with mine.

[Rick]

I suspect Goldfish nailed it and know running one with ill set trim on the plate for long is a workout I'd just as soon skip.

[Tomkat]

Any one have a reccomendation for a model or brand of plate?