2022 Preseason...

Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Rick » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:34 am

Had another reliable teal report this morning from a fellow who saw 5 on the Lake Arthur Club. We're getting there...
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby BGkirk » Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:50 am

Never heard lotus called chinquapins.

Or maybe everyone else I tell about lotus is thinking the same thing, “what is this guy calling lotus”


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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Duck Engr » Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:30 am

The guides on the Facebook are finally starting to post videos. Saw video of a 30 pack cruising the marsh yesterday. “Latest we’ve seen them show up in years. But that’s a good thing….”
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Rick » Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:43 am

BGkirk wrote:Never heard lotus called chinquapins.

Or maybe everyone else I tell about lotus is thinking the same thing, “what is this guy calling lotus”


Never heard them called Lotus by anyone in this area. "Granivoli(sp?) lilies" is the only other local name I've heard, and the guy who called them that was from Vernon parish.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Ducaholic » Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:47 am

Rick wrote:
BGkirk wrote:Never heard lotus called chinquapins.

Or maybe everyone else I tell about lotus is thinking the same thing, “what is this guy calling lotus”


Never heard them called Lotus by anyone in this area. "Granivoli(sp?) lilies" is the only other local name I've heard, and the guy who called them that was from Vernon parish.



The big leafy veggies appear to be American Lotus. IE Elephant Ears in these parts :beer:
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby 5 stand » Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:01 am

Common names include American lotus, yellow lotus, water-chinquapin, and volée. It is native to North America.
You guys got my curiosity up so I googled it. My grandfather always called it chinquapin.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:05 am

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The background for my Teams screen taken while my wife and I were picking flowers in one of the many big lotus patches on the nearby river where I boat.

What I found interesting is I have a number of Asian coworkers. I learned that they eat a lot of lotus in certain parts of Asia. Did a little homework and it was a big food source for certain Native Americans. I had no idea people ate it. Kind of made me curious. Might dig some roots next time I'm down there.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Ducaholic » Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:46 am

SpinnerMan wrote:
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The background for my Teams screen taken while my wife and I were picking flowers in one of the many big lotus patches on the nearby river where I boat.

What I found interesting is I have a number of Asian coworkers. I learned that they eat a lot of lotus in certain parts of Asia. Did a little homework and it was a big food source for certain Native Americans. I had no idea people ate it. Kind of made me curious. Might dig some roots next time I'm down there.



The big seeds in the pod is what is eatable as I understand it but very very hard don't use your teeth :lol:
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Rick » Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:11 am

Ducaholic wrote:The big seeds in the pod is what is eatable as I understand it but very very hard don't use your teeth :lol:


Taste like chestnuts to me, but way too dang much trouble to peel.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Rick » Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:15 am

5 stand wrote:Common names include...volée.


Which makes me wonder if my late Vernon parish friend was calling them grand volee...
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby 5 stand » Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:28 am

Rick wrote:
5 stand wrote:Common names include...volée.


Which makes me wonder if my late Vernon parish friend was calling them grand volee...


Very well could be...I didn't even put the two together, I just copied and paste.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby SpinnerMan » Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:57 am

Ducaholic wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:
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The background for my Teams screen taken while my wife and I were picking flowers in one of the many big lotus patches on the nearby river where I boat.

What I found interesting is I have a number of Asian coworkers. I learned that they eat a lot of lotus in certain parts of Asia. Did a little homework and it was a big food source for certain Native Americans. I had no idea people ate it. Kind of made me curious. Might dig some roots next time I'm down there.



The big seeds in the pod is what is eatable as I understand it but very very hard don't use your teeth :lol:

They eat pretty much the entire plant as I understand it. The roots however is the bulk of what they eat. The seeds are just easiest to get since they are above the water.

I actually got a whole explanation of this from a woman originally from Wuhan China, some place we've all heard a lot about the last few years. Apparently, that's the region most known for lotus in China. We had lunch with a student who worked for us as an intern. She explained about the two different types of roots. About the seeds. Very interesting. But I forgot a lot of the details :oops:
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Ricky Spanish » Wed Aug 24, 2022 1:05 pm

The flats at Clinton get completely overgrown in that crap.
First storm after a frost and poof its gone just like that along with a hundred muskrat houses made from them leaves.

Excuse me but they ARE NOT lily pads.. cough cough.
Here in town they've got a bamboo problem.
It's invasive...lol
If that gets to the lake omg. :lol:
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Darren » Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:54 pm

Duck Engr wrote:The guides on the Facebook are finally starting to post videos. Saw video of a 30 pack cruising the marsh yesterday. “Latest we’ve seen them show up in years. But that’s a good thing….”


Yea here's one such, first ones we're seeing like this, a good 10 days later than 2021 season:

https://fb.watch/f7zedZ1VkQ/
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Rick » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:54 pm

They'll kill a million and twelve of 'em this year.

Meanwhile, I still haven't seen my first. Was in our marsh early this morning and tickled to find it nearing more normal level. Not sure what to think of not finding as much black dirt floating as expected in my pond or the run I broke to the back blind, but am guessing cool rain water has slowed the bacteria's decomposition efforts and subsequent CO2 farts to float it. But I broke what had surfaced and ground some more vegetation on the west end of my pond, as well as in front of Clyde's blind.

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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Duck Engr » Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:15 pm

Starting to look rather ducky!
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Rick » Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:45 pm

Few warm days without cooling rain, and it could look like a giant chocolate cake...

But hoping to hit it often enough to avoid serious issues.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Ricky Spanish » Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:50 pm

This looks good to me.
Lot can change in a month I hope things stay calm for you guys. I also hope it's frosty and icy as hell up here starting around December first.
It'd sure help push everything south.
We are due for a good winter.
Of course I say this annually. :lol:
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby DComeaux » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:44 pm

looking good!
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Darren » Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:43 am

Rick wrote:Few warm days without cooling rain, and it could look like a giant chocolate cake...

But hoping to hit it often enough to avoid serious issues.


Rain chances awfully high for the foreseeable!

Got a handle on the boat slips at the dock?
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby DComeaux » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:08 am

Rick, you may want to bring a shovel with you on your morning travels with marsh to make sure all of those rice and fallow fields that aren't hunted are draining well. The birds will be spread out far and wide if this continues.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Rick » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:16 am

Darren wrote:Got a handle on the boat slips at the dock?


Hope to get that with the mudboat.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Rick » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:22 am

DComeaux wrote:Rick, you may want to bring a shovel with you on your morning travels with marsh to make sure all of those rice and fallow fields that aren't hunted are draining well. The birds will be spread out far and wide if this continues.


Better that than having them all blown out to Cuba and Belize in a weekend - I think. Always been a fan of sheet water mini refuges that ease the pressure on them and keeps more birds in the area.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Darren » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:36 am

Rick wrote:
DComeaux wrote:Rick, you may want to bring a shovel with you on your morning travels with marsh to make sure all of those rice and fallow fields that aren't hunted are draining well. The birds will be spread out far and wide if this continues.


Better that than having them all blown out to Cuba and Belize in a weekend - I think. Always been a fan of sheet water mini refuges that ease the pressure on them and keeps more birds in the area.


Agree with that premise for sure, but a luxury on that end of the state where the bulk of the masses come through. On my end, flooded pastures and cane fields absolutely do us in, spreading a much smaller mass of birds super thin, and very few people actually hunt them in the flooded ground, instead choosing to hope they come to the marsh.

So it's nearly akin to your situation....... but imagine if no one hunted/pressured the rice.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Ducaholic » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:54 am

DComeaux wrote:Rick, you may want to bring a shovel with you on your morning travels with marsh to make sure all of those rice and fallow fields that aren't hunted are draining well. The birds will be spread out far and wide if this continues.



Far less than ideal for my area that's for sure. I was hoping for dry dry dry with several little cool fronts. One out of two is still a possibility but even that's not shaping up in the forecast but more rain sure is.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Darren » Fri Aug 26, 2022 9:54 am

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DComeaux wrote:Rick, you may want to bring a shovel with you on your morning travels with marsh to make sure all of those rice and fallow fields that aren't hunted are draining well. The birds will be spread out far and wide if this continues.


Far less than ideal for my area that's for sure. I was hoping for dry dry dry with several little cool fronts. One out of two is still a possibility but even that's not shaping up in the forecast but more rain sure is.


Do you find that the several fronts premise brings you good hunting? The log tells me post-front September teal hunting is my least productive.....blows them out. Last season was one of the most pleasant teal seasons in memory, and it was just about the worst teal seasons I've seen. In the rice, a lot of guys were griping last year that the fronts blew out the birds they were holding, just did them more harm than good.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby DComeaux » Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:58 am

Rick wrote:
DComeaux wrote:Rick, you may want to bring a shovel with you on your morning travels with marsh to make sure all of those rice and fallow fields that aren't hunted are draining well. The birds will be spread out far and wide if this continues.


Better that than having them all blown out to Cuba and Belize in a weekend - I think. Always been a fan of sheet water mini refuges that ease the pressure on them and keeps more birds in the area.


Good point. The only issue I have is they'll stay north in the rice and seed fields and I'll be watching Ibis, herons, egrets, skimmers and seagulls. I would hope that if this rain continues, those many mobile rice field teal battalions will bang them out. Seems the mentality today is take no prisoners and clear the area.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Rick » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:36 pm

Darren wrote:... but imagine if no one hunted/pressured the rice.


They're still in the area and get moved at a more measured pace as sheet water drops than if they're using gunned water.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Rick » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:41 am

Took advantage of clear morning skies to poison the cattails threatening to take over the west end of my pond and bust up some of the black dirt pop-ups and chopped duck lettuce on it. Still haven't seen a teal, but there were a few woodies around, as well as three dozen or so bird flights of black-bellies spotted to my north. But the high-light was five mottleds flushed from the back blind's pond and drop-dead gorgeous lit up by the morning "golden hour" sun.
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Re: 2022 Preseason...

Postby Ducaholic » Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:20 am

Darren wrote:
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DComeaux wrote:Rick, you may want to bring a shovel with you on your morning travels with marsh to make sure all of those rice and fallow fields that aren't hunted are draining well. The birds will be spread out far and wide if this continues.


Far less than ideal for my area that's for sure. I was hoping for dry dry dry with several little cool fronts. One out of two is still a possibility but even that's not shaping up in the forecast but more rain sure is.


Do you find that the several fronts premise brings you good hunting? The log tells me post-front September teal hunting is my least productive.....blows them out. Last season was one of the most pleasant teal seasons in memory, and it was just about the worst teal seasons I've seen. In the rice, a lot of guys were griping last year that the fronts blew out the birds they were holding, just did them more harm than good.



We are almost totally dependent on migrating teal here today gone tomorrow so yes the north wind days are the most desirable.
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