New rifle choices

New rifle choices

Postby Flightstopper » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:59 pm

Thinking about getting a new rifle but not sure what model to get these days. I think I want a 7mm-08 but could be talked out of that. I've never been big on rifles so if there is something that would fit my wants better throw it out there. I have a 30-06 and have always preferred smaller calibers that I shoot more accurately. I want just an all around good ranch gun from varmits to deer and hogs. Not trying to break the bank either.
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New rifle choices

Postby Redbeard » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:11 pm

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Re: New rifle choices

Postby gila-river » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:12 pm

The Ruger American Rifle sounds perfect for what you are looking for. There is nothing more accurate for the money. Its a 400$ gun with a synthetic stock so you wont have a aneurism if you get a scratch on it. I bought one in .270 last year and have nothing but good things to say. I am so confident with it I had planned on taking it for elk had I gotten **** drawn! caliber is all personal preference but the .270 is the tits IMHO, especially with modern bullets. Good Luck!
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Postby FlintRiverFowler » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:18 pm

Redbeard wrote:Cue Rex Chapman

Beat me to it :lol:
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby AKPirate » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:19 pm

I have heard there are some good rifles out there with interchangeable calibers so your not locked in to one only
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby Redbeard » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:20 pm

My little encore is a fun gun
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby Redbeard » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:20 pm

Flight have ya looked at the 25-06?
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby Flightstopper » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:27 pm

Redbeard wrote:My little encore is a fun gun


I have always really liked the encores. Seem like they would be far more accurate than I ever will be. Figured 25-06 was too close to my 30-06? Am definitely going the synthetic stainless route.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby BrewGUN » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:48 pm

Stick with the 7-08, great caliber and very versatile. The whole Gun family has one of these for deer.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby Flightstopper » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:50 pm

BrewGUN wrote:Stick with the 7-08, great caliber and very versatile. The whole Gun family has one of these for deer.


More I read I am far more impressed with it. Now just which gun to put it through. Will be checking out the ruger American.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby assateague » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:52 pm

Get a Marlin 336 in .35 Remington.






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Re: New rifle choices

Postby BrewGUN » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:53 pm

Flightstopper wrote:
BrewGUN wrote:Stick with the 7-08, great caliber and very versatile. The whole Gun family has one of these for deer.


More I read I am far more impressed with it. Now just which gun to put it through. Will be checking out the ruger American.

Most of ours are Remington's. I wouldn't hesitate with a savage though.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby assateague » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:55 pm

Love the Accutrigger. That thing should be mandatory on all rifles.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby Flightstopper » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:53 pm

Anybody have any experience with Howa?
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby Tomkat » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:58 pm

assateague wrote:Love the Accutrigger. That thing should be mandatory on all rifles.


This

Savage makes one hell of a good barrel for a production rifle.

I like their rifles. Like them a lot.

Why wouldnt you get a .243 ? I have a Savage .243 that is a very accurate gun. It will work for coyotes, deer, and everything in between.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby sws002 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:59 pm

BrewGUN wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:
BrewGUN wrote:Stick with the 7-08, great caliber and very versatile. The whole Gun family has one of these for deer.


More I read I am far more impressed with it. Now just which gun to put it through. Will be checking out the ruger American.

Most of ours are Remington's. I wouldn't hesitate with a savage though.


How many of them just got recalled?

I've had a Howa, good shooters, basically a Japanese Rem 700. Same thing for the Weatherby Vanguards. Take a look at Tikkas as well. Super light guns and great shooters. Only PITA is if you want to go 30mm tube or bigger than a 40mm objective you'll have to get new rings, which are their own specific rings.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby jarbo03 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:04 pm

Flightstopper wrote:
Redbeard wrote:My little encore is a fun gun


I have always really liked the encores. Seem like they would be far more accurate than I ever will be. Figured 25-06 was too close to my 30-06? Am definitely going the synthetic stainless route.


My rifle is a synthetic/ stainless Savage in 25-06, I would recommend it.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby sws002 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:12 pm

jarbo03 wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:
Redbeard wrote:My little encore is a fun gun


I have always really liked the encores. Seem like they would be far more accurate than I ever will be. Figured 25-06 was too close to my 30-06? Am definitely going the synthetic stainless route.


My rifle is a synthetic/ stainless Savage in 25-06, I would recommend it.


The new(ish) Trophy Hunter series are pretty badass little guns. Come with basically a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 on them, which will get you by for the time being until you upgrade. Quite honestly, they are the only package gun I really recommend, every other package gun usually comes with a $10 Bushnell Sportsman or some variation of it.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby jarbo03 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:15 pm

sws002 wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:
Redbeard wrote:My little encore is a fun gun


I have always really liked the encores. Seem like they would be far more accurate than I ever will be. Figured 25-06 was too close to my 30-06? Am definitely going the synthetic stainless route.


My rifle is a synthetic/ stainless Savage in 25-06, I would recommend it.


The new(ish) Trophy Hunter series are pretty badass little guns. Come with basically a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 on them, which will get you by for the time being until you upgrade. Quite honestly, they are the only package gun I really recommend, every other package gun usually comes with a $10 Bushnell Sportsman or some variation of it.



My gun came with the cheap Bushnell, it didn't last long. I have a Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 on it now, it has surpassed my expectations.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby DeadEye_Dan » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:21 pm

I've long been a fan of Ruger and Savage for production rifles. (Ruger for their scope mounting system and overall quality, Savage for their outstanding reputation for accuracy)

I've been vacillating between a .260 Rem or the 7-08 for the kids to make a nice light recoiling rifle, but am leaning toward the 7 as of now for the variety of bullets available if nothing else, because ballistically they are splitting hairs
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby ducks~n~bucks » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:27 pm

Weatherby makes good rifles, and the .257 wby mag is a really great round.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby sws002 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:32 pm

ducks~n~bucks wrote:Weatherby makes good rifles, and the .257 wby mag is a really great round.


If you enjoy paying $10/shot.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby ducks~n~bucks » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:34 pm

sws002 wrote:
ducks~n~bucks wrote:Weatherby makes good rifles, and the .257 wby mag is a really great round.


If you enjoy paying $10/shot.

Reloading works wonders. Just buy 7mm mag brass and neck it down to .257, and it's the same round.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby The Duck Hammer » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:35 pm

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Re: New rifle choices

Postby RonE » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:37 pm

If I were going to buy a rifle for Texas deer, I would get something in .243. Very versatile with it's relative wide range of bullet weights available across the counter. The 6mm Remington is about a hundred feet per second across the board but often hard to find factory ammunition. The .243 is kindly to shoot and your wife could handle it easily. I see nothing wrong with Savage and believe that they are among the most accurate out of the box rifles and priced right also. I would put a good scope on any rifle I bought and with Savage, it is easy to put a glass on the rifle that costs more than the rifle. If you ever decide to sell something with good optics, it is often wise to replace the sights with Simmons or Tasco or something around the bottom of the price scale.

Look at the ballistics and make a choice based on what you need the rifle to do and the availability of factory ammo that is popular.

Consider this one: http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/




Model: 16/116 Trophy Hunter XP

Series:

Package

AccuTrigger:

Yes

AccuStock:

No

Magazine:

Detachable box

Stock material:

Synthetic

Barrel material:

Stainless Steel

Stock finish:

Matte

Barrel finish:

Matte

Stock color:

Black

Barrel color:

Natural

Sights:

Nikon 3-9x40 BDC Reticle



Available chamberings:

Please select a chambering below to view details for each rifle. Please note that some calibers may show multiple times due to differences in the attributes of each sku such as handed, twist, stock, etc.


204 RUGER

22-250 REM

223 REM

243 WIN

25-06 REM

260 REM

270 WIN

270 WSM

30-06 SPFLD

300 WIN

300 WSM

308 WIN

338 WIN

375 RUGER

6.5 CREEDMOOR

6.5 x 284 NORMA

7MM REM

7MM-08 REM



204 RUGER

Sku:

19721

Handed:

Right

Rate of Twist:

12

Weight:

7.25 lbs

Overall Length:

41.5"

Barrel Length:

22"

Ammo Capacity:

4 round(s)

MSRP:

$740.00
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby sws002 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:42 pm

RonE wrote:If I were going to buy a rifle for Texas deer, I would get something in .243. Very versatile with it's relative wide range of bullet weights available across the counter. The 6mm Remington is about a hundred feet per second across the board but often hard to find factory ammunition. The .243 is kindly to shoot and your wife could handle it easily. I see nothing wrong with Savage and believe that they are among the most accurate out of the box rifles and priced right also. I would put a good scope on any rifle I bought and with Savage, it is easy to put a glass on the rifle that costs more than the rifle. If you ever decide to sell something with good optics, it is often wise to replace the sights with Simmons or Tasco or something around the bottom of the price scale.

Look at the ballistics and make a choice based on what you need the rifle to do and the availability of factory ammo that is popular.

Consider this one: http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/


I've had a few guys from Texas tell me that the 7-08 has all but replaced the .243 down there. All it amounts to is a .243 casing necked up to accept a 7mm bullet, just gives you a little bit more oomph. I think all things being equal, there is only about 7" or so difference in trajectory over 500 yards, pretty efficient little round.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby Flightstopper » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:51 pm

RonE wrote:If I were going to buy a rifle for Texas deer, I would get something in .243. Very versatile with it's relative wide range of bullet weights available across the counter. The 6mm Remington is about a hundred feet per second across the board but often hard to find factory ammunition. The .243 is kindly to shoot and your wife could handle it easily. I see nothing wrong with Savage and believe that they are among the most accurate out of the box rifles and priced right also. I would put a good scope on any rifle I bought and with Savage, it is easy to put a glass on the rifle that costs more than the rifle. If you ever decide to sell something with good optics, it is often wise to replace the sights with Simmons or Tasco or something around the bottom of the price scale.

Look at the ballistics and make a choice based on what you need the rifle to do and the availability of factory ammo that is popular.

Consider this one: http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/




Model: 16/116 Trophy Hunter XP

Series:

Package

AccuTrigger:

Yes

AccuStock:

No

Magazine:

Detachable box

Stock material:

Synthetic

Barrel material:

Stainless Steel

Stock finish:

Matte

Barrel finish:

Matte

Stock color:

Black

Barrel color:

Natural

Sights:

Nikon 3-9x40 BDC Reticle



Available chamberings:

Please select a chambering below to view details for each rifle. Please note that some calibers may show multiple times due to differences in the attributes of each sku such as handed, twist, stock, etc.


204 RUGER

22-250 REM

223 REM

243 WIN

25-06 REM

260 REM

270 WIN

270 WSM

30-06 SPFLD

300 WIN

300 WSM

308 WIN

338 WIN

375 RUGER

6.5 CREEDMOOR

6.5 x 284 NORMA

7MM REM

7MM-08 REM



204 RUGER

Sku:

19721

Handed:

Right

Rate of Twist:

12

Weight:

7.25 lbs

Overall Length:

41.5"

Barrel Length:

22"

Ammo Capacity:

4 round(s)

MSRP:

$740.00


Missed that stainless model earlier. I'd most likely put a prostaff on any gun I by for the money anyways. Good find.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby Flightstopper » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:52 pm

sws002 wrote:
RonE wrote:If I were going to buy a rifle for Texas deer, I would get something in .243. Very versatile with it's relative wide range of bullet weights available across the counter. The 6mm Remington is about a hundred feet per second across the board but often hard to find factory ammunition. The .243 is kindly to shoot and your wife could handle it easily. I see nothing wrong with Savage and believe that they are among the most accurate out of the box rifles and priced right also. I would put a good scope on any rifle I bought and with Savage, it is easy to put a glass on the rifle that costs more than the rifle. If you ever decide to sell something with good optics, it is often wise to replace the sights with Simmons or Tasco or something around the bottom of the price scale.

Look at the ballistics and make a choice based on what you need the rifle to do and the availability of factory ammo that is popular.

Consider this one: http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/


I've had a few guys from Texas tell me that the 7-08 has all but replaced the .243 down there. All it amounts to is a .243 casing necked up to accept a 7mm bullet, just gives you a little bit more oomph. I think all things being equal, there is only about 7" or so difference in trajectory over 500 yards, pretty efficient little round.


Yeah I think I'm pretty sold on the 7.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby RonE » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:18 pm

sws002 wrote:
RonE wrote:If I were going to buy a rifle for Texas deer, I would get something in .243. Very versatile with it's relative wide range of bullet weights available across the counter. The 6mm Remington is about a hundred feet per second across the board but often hard to find factory ammunition. The .243 is kindly to shoot and your wife could handle it easily. I see nothing wrong with Savage and believe that they are among the most accurate out of the box rifles and priced right also. I would put a good scope on any rifle I bought and with Savage, it is easy to put a glass on the rifle that costs more than the rifle. If you ever decide to sell something with good optics, it is often wise to replace the sights with Simmons or Tasco or something around the bottom of the price scale.

Look at the ballistics and make a choice based on what you need the rifle to do and the availability of factory ammo that is popular.

Consider this one: http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/


I've had a few guys from Texas tell me that the 7-08 has all but replaced the .243 down there. All it amounts to is a .243 casing necked up to accept a 7mm bullet, just gives you a little bit more oomph. I think all things being equal, there is only about 7" or so difference in trajectory over 500 yards, pretty efficient little round.


I haven't heard that but perhaps it is true but when you get into the heaver 7mm bullets you might just as well shoot the 30-06.

I don't believe that the 7-08 will compete with the .243 with lighter weight bullets whereas the .243 will exceed 3,500 fps with lighter weight bullets.
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Re: New rifle choices

Postby sws002 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:24 pm

RonE wrote:
sws002 wrote:
RonE wrote:If I were going to buy a rifle for Texas deer, I would get something in .243. Very versatile with it's relative wide range of bullet weights available across the counter. The 6mm Remington is about a hundred feet per second across the board but often hard to find factory ammunition. The .243 is kindly to shoot and your wife could handle it easily. I see nothing wrong with Savage and believe that they are among the most accurate out of the box rifles and priced right also. I would put a good scope on any rifle I bought and with Savage, it is easy to put a glass on the rifle that costs more than the rifle. If you ever decide to sell something with good optics, it is often wise to replace the sights with Simmons or Tasco or something around the bottom of the price scale.

Look at the ballistics and make a choice based on what you need the rifle to do and the availability of factory ammo that is popular.

Consider this one: http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/


I've had a few guys from Texas tell me that the 7-08 has all but replaced the .243 down there. All it amounts to is a .243 casing necked up to accept a 7mm bullet, just gives you a little bit more oomph. I think all things being equal, there is only about 7" or so difference in trajectory over 500 yards, pretty efficient little round.


I haven't heard that but perhaps it is true but when you get into the heaver 7mm bullets you might just as well shoot the 30-06.

I don't believe that the 7-08 will compete with the .243 with lighter weight bullets whereas the .243 will exceed 3,500 fps with lighter weight bullets.


7mm bullets are far better ballistically than the 7.62. 6.5 is better yet, but there aren't a lot of options for factory rifles and your bullet selection drops off quite a bit as well when you are talking factory ammo. The 7-08 has a pretty good following now, I don't think it will overtake the .243, but is a nice complement to it. Quite honestly, I don't see people's fascination with the .30-06, the .308 will do nearly the EXACT same job with about half the recoil and a short action. The ONLY thing the .30-06 has going for it is a factory offering of ammo up to 220 grain, otherwise I honestly don't think the .30-06 has anything that would make me pick it over the .308.
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