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Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:17 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
Olly wrote:
DeadEye_Dan wrote:
Bad17 wrote:Don't know. But if you are building it yourself why do you want Uncle Sam to know that there is a chance that you could even have something that requires that.


Well, 10 years in FederalPoundMeInTheAssPrison is a good deterrent.

To answer the original question, current wait times are 8-10 months for individual applications, 6-8 for "non-individual" entities (trusts, llcs, corps, etc). Nfatracker.com has user updated stats on wait times. My personal experience so far has been Application filed 2/18/14, stamp Approved 8/20/14 - right at 6 months (issued to a trust)., Application filed 7/16/14, pending 12/4/14...waiting final approval ??? Guessing in January.


I wouldn't bother with it, unless you are going to go the route of forming an entity to own the NFA items...to much hassle for an individual.

As far as the SBR? Meh...I too have a stripped lower that I was going to build an SBR (12" 5.7, fwiw)...but seems a lot of hassle for what amounts to a toy.
I wouldn't even consider it unless you plan to run a suppressor on it and then the idea has merit to me...because short barrels are LOUD. Obscenely loud.
If we could hunt with suppressors here, I'd build a 12" 6.8SPC, throw a can on it and rock, until then - not gonna eff with it.


Thanks for the advice maybe I'll build the 20" govt profile rifle I also want first and the SBR later down the road. Who knows with the way gun laws have been going in the last 10 years maybe in the next 10 years we will see the NFA sunset.


There has been some credible talk that suppressors might be removed from the definition of an NFA firearm, given the health and safety aspects of shooting suppressed and I think somewhere around 30! States are now legal to hunt with suppressors...it's just becoming more mainstream.

I think with the concealed weapon concern of sbr/sbs, they stay regulated.

Think about a 10" 870 with a Salvo for home defense??? Wicked.

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:21 pm
by The Duck Hammer
Saw a picture of a 10" 870 that a guy kept in his nightstand. It'd be sweet, although shooting it would be a bitch.

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:36 pm
by Olly
DeadEye_Dan wrote:
I think with the concealed weapon concern of sbr/sbs, they stay regulated.
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Then let's all hope that other states follow the suit of Montana. You can own a tax/BG check free SBR there as long as you're a resident and the SBR is made in Montana.

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:47 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
You should read your own link...the law has been successfully challenged by the ATF, and those claiming exemption under the law are in fact in violation of the NFA act and federal firearms laws.

I can make anything I want in my garage in Michigan, as long as no one finds out...same as in Montana or anywhere else.

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:52 pm
by Flightstopper
DeadEye_Dan wrote:
Bad17 wrote:Don't know. But if you are building it yourself why do you want Uncle Sam to know that there is a chance that you could even have something that requires that.


Well, 10 years in FederalPoundMeInTheAssPrison is a good deterrent.

To answer the original question, current wait times are 8-10 months for individual applications, 6-8 for "non-individual" entities (trusts, llcs, corps, etc). Nfatracker.com has user updated stats on wait times. My personal experience so far has been Application filed 2/18/14, stamp Approved 8/20/14 - right at 6 months (issued to a trust)., Application filed 7/16/14, pending 12/4/14...waiting final approval ??? Guessing in January.


I wouldn't bother with it, unless you are going to go the route of forming an entity to own the NFA items...to much hassle for an individual.

As far as the SBR? Meh...I too have a stripped lower that I was going to build an SBR (12" 5.7, fwiw)...but seems a lot of hassle for what amounts to a toy.
I wouldn't even consider it unless you plan to run a suppressor on it and then the idea has merit to me...because short barrels are LOUD. Obscenely loud.
If we could hunt with suppressors here, I'd build a 12" 6.8SPC, throw a can on it and rock, until then - not gonna eff with it.


I do t keep up with it much but I thought we could hunt with suppressors here??

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:53 pm
by Bad17
We can

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:55 pm
by The Duck Hammer
Yep

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:00 pm
by Flightstopper
I mixed your post with Dan's on the 6.8, which I would also love to have. Carry on

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:03 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
I'm kinda liking that little round.

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:12 pm
by Flightstopper
If I were to build an AR it would no doubt be in 6.8.

NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:31 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
110 gr bullet at 2600-2700 fps, recoil is nil, and it's capable of very good accuracy...what's not to love.

BTW, Stag makes a very nice factory 68 very reasonably priced.

And just to be consistent...you will really hate me now.


http://www.68forums.com/forums/

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:34 pm
by Flightstopper
Damnit Dan, I already have blades on the way I can't handle anymore bad influence at the moment. Still have all the bookmarks to build the 6.8 rifle I want.

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:37 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
You gotta go check out Texas Lawman's posts and videos...that guy makes me jealous.

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:39 pm
by Flightstopper
Nope, nope not gonna do it :lol:

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:40 pm
by Olly
I prefer to keep all my guns in a caliber that I can afford large amounts of :lol:

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:43 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
Yah - .80/rd is steep, I can reload for half that - still not cheap

Re: NFA wait times?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:16 am
by DeadEye_Dan
FYI - Form1's (to build NFA items) e-filed, are getting turned in around 30 days right now.