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Postby Waterfowl73 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:42 am

Need some different opinions on the subject of the Cutdown call, I've never been a real big fan of them but after seeing them in action this week and all the groups of bird they broke I feel as though I need to add one to my lanyard, so who makes the best? I'm looking for volume, control, and something easy to learn on, what are my options??
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Re: Cutdown

Postby Westie25 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:30 am

Give BSOD a look if you have to have one. Spencer is a super nice guy who makes a pretty nice call.
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Re: Cutdown

Postby Shaun Patrick » Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:56 am

Ill agree with the bsod, spencer is a good dude and makes a good call. I don't use putdowns, and am by no means a cutdown expert, but his calls are solid and not that expensive.
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Re: Cutdown

Postby huntall6 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:18 pm

i have a BSOD original cut and really enjoy it. has a great bark and is pretty freakin durable. i am kind of a clutz while in a layout blind which is why i have all poly calls on one lanyard specifically for layout hunting, and have gone through a few due to falls, shouldering the gun on top of a call, ect, ect. that cutdown has held up with the best of them.
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Re: Cutdown

Postby BDK » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:07 am

I have a black ops dfb 50~11 I like it . I like the mondo also

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Re: Cutdown

Postby aunt betty » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:15 pm

I tried several cutdown calls on a couple different days. Towduck won six of them on facebook. (drool)
Hunted with him and got to try them out. Hunted with another guy who had some calls and one was that BSOD one.
Out of all the cutdowns I tried I liked that one the best (BSOD).

However...I own a call that I won on that other forum.
The CCC Throwback. That call acts and sounds a whole lot like them cutdowns. I used mine and got mallard limits on 13/15 days once I started hunting alone.

When I got home I was excited about the call so I messaged Gary (the call maker) and sent him some pictures and video.
He said that that call is already cutdown with the Arkansas style cut. There are two versions. One is large bore and the other smaller. I have the large bore one. It rocked in timber. Here's the video I made for Gary.
It wasn't more than 5 minutes later and I had two mallards. Then a bit longer for the other two. :mrgreen:
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Re: Cutdown

Postby jehler » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:18 pm

Wise ole duck hunter once told me that the way a call fits your hand is as
Important as anything
FREE THE QUOTE STREAM!
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Re: Cutdown

Postby NuffDaddy » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:23 pm

Real nasally kind of call there AB. I like it. :thumbsup:


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Re: Cutdown

Postby assateague » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:48 pm

jehler wrote:Wise ole duck hunter once told me that the way a call fits your hand is as
Important as anything


A puddle duck hunter, obviously.
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Re: Cutdown

Postby Bootlipkiller » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:49 pm

assateague wrote:
jehler wrote:Wise ole duck hunter once told me that the way a call fits your hand is as
Important as anything


A puddle duck hunter, obviously.

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Re: Cutdown

Postby aunt betty » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:11 am

Jehler's right.
I had quite a few days to figure it out in timber.
At first I just blew on the call. It was a bit high-pitched so I started experimenting with using my voice (grunting).
That made it sound a lot better but the icing on the cake is when I started experimenting around with holding my hand closed to get a little back-pressure before I opened up the hand.

Found that if I keep my hand closed until I feel the vibrations...and then open it up I get a perfect KUwack every time.
I'm still working on it but the difference in how the ducks reacted was obvious.

There's a whole lot more to calling mallards than the call. HOW you use it matters. I noticed the guys who are good at calling ducks can sound good on ANY duck call including toy ones. Go figure.
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Re: Cutdown

Postby jehler » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:30 am

assateague wrote:
jehler wrote:Wise ole duck hunter once told me that the way a call fits your hand is as
Important as anything


A puddle duck hunter, obviously.

It was Betty, just seeing if he remembered that convo
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Re: Cutdown

Postby aunt betty » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:03 am

jehler wrote:
assateague wrote:
jehler wrote:Wise ole duck hunter once told me that the way a call fits your hand is as
Important as anything


A puddle duck hunter, obviously.

It was Betty, just seeing if he remembered that convo

I had forgotten. I'll admit it. Now that you point it out...Hey, I DID say that.

So many people this year. Was overwhelmed with the fact I couldn't deal with 25 people texting me on a flip-phone.
I flipped out and lost that sucker. :D
I MIGHT have had help losing that phone. I took some pictures of some people who didn't want to be photographed where they were (I think). Was drunk and having fun...I dunno.

The brite side: After I recovered from losing the phone I went out and smashed the livin crap outa the ducks for two and a half weeks straight. :thumbsup:
It was destiny.
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Re: Cutdown

Postby aunt betty » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:20 am

I liked the BSOD the best but just now figured out there are several versions of the way it's cut.
I guess you can get an uncut one and send it to the cutmaster of your choice and have them do it.
Am pretty sure the guy who cut the BSOD I tried doesn't do them anymore.
That particular call was $275.
There's someone who is famous for cutting calls who just quit...help me out.

I TRIED to stick it in my pocket but the guy who owned it weighs twice as much as me. Fairly athletic and I don't think I could have outrun him. :D

There's a BSOD for sale in the classifieds right now.

Here is a very good article about duck calls. It's an ad for BSOD but it's quite accurate.

History of cut down duck calls

What is a cut down duck call, and how did all the fuss get started?
The history of duck hunting and duck calling is a rich one that goes back many years. Many legendary figures have emerged throughout the history of duck hunting, and a number of favorite hunting locations have emerged as the most prominent places for both ducks and duck hunters to congregate. For nearly every legendary figure and for nearly every infamous hunting spot the methods, gear, and setup the local hunters employ varies and has developed over time. Hunters in Arkansas that shoot rice fields and flooded green timber do they things a little differently than the open water hunters of Reelfoot Lake in North West Tennessee. Likewise the dry ground hunters of Southern Canada and the Central Plains states of North and South Dakota hunt a little differently than the guys who combat the fierce Mississippi, Illinois, and Missouri rivers in pursuit of mallard limits. Despite all of the differences in geography, tactics, gear, and conditions one thing remains constant: Duck hunters want to kill ducks. Anyone can watch ducks from a half a mile away and photograph their beauty, but only a select few folks posses the desire and the ability to convince a wild duck to land in their spread of decoys.
The history of the Black Stick of Death begins here, with the pursuit of all duck hunters to gain that coveted advantage over nature and other hunters. In a world where duck hunters long for the advantage, the secret, the mystery that unlocks nature's hidden code and makes shooting a limit of mallards consistent, duck hunters are always at work. Many have said that the only consistent thing about duck hunting is that it’s not consistent. It often seems that the ducks want to do something a little different each day and from season to season. Some years there's not enough water, other years there is too much. Some years there is no food for the ducks and other years there’s far too much food. The bottom line is that successful duck hunters have to learn the art of adapting to the harsh conditions and wide variances of weather and geography as they pursuit of their prey each winter.
[color=#FFBF00]In the late 1800's in Pekin, IL Phillip Sanford Olt began using a converted chicken coop on his farm to produce duck and goose calls. In 1904, Mr. Olt officially opened his game call company: P.S. Olt. Through his company, Mr. Olt invented what is today known as the Arkansas style duck call. Olt calls featured a one piece insert that held a straight reed resting above a curved tone board used for channeling the sound. Nearly all duck calls (and many goose calls) made today utilize Phillip Olt’s insert design by combining straight mylar reed and a curved tone board. The most popular P.S. Olt game calls were the Model D-2 keyhole and the Model A-50 goose call. By the 1950’s the P.S. Olt duck call Model D-2 was the market standard. The Olt family advertised their call as being “sold the world over”. Most duck call historians and collectors widely consider Phillip S. Olt to be the father of the modern duck call.
In the midst of the Olt Model D-2’s popularity during the 1950’s and 1960’s duck hunters began doing with their equipment what all duck hunters do with their equipment….they modified or customized it for their particular style of hunting. Because of the durable “hard rubber plastic” that the P.S. Olt duck calls were made from hunters were able to modify the rounded tone board in order to adjust the volume and pitch that the duck call produced. The finished product after the modification of the tone board became known as a “Cut-down” call. Because the P.S. Olt Model D-2 featured a keyhole style channel for the sound to exit, many hunters called the modified Olt’s “cut-down keyholes” or “Keyhole cut-downs”. When a later model of Olt’s D-2 was produced with a round hole instead of a keyhole notch, other hunters began to refer to their modified cut downs as “Old Style Cut Downs”. To this day, the most popular nickname given to the Model D-2 keyhole (and the namesake of Rolling Thunder’s model) is the “Black Stick of Death”.
The success of these modified P.S. Olt Model D-2’s was tremendous, yet since the modification was only being done 1 or 2 at a time by individuals and was not completed commercially, its popularity was kept rather quiet. In fact, those in the “know” guarded the secrets of their cut down with great care. For a short time, the P.S. Olt company commercially produced an “Old Style Cut Down” Model D-2 in an attempt to capitalize on the call’s popularity, but the company as a whole was struggling for unrelated reasons would cease mass production not long after the “Old Style Cut Down” hit the market.
With the introduction of the internet and the growing popularity of web forums, blogs, and chat rooms in the late 1990’s, many of the closely guarded secrets of the cut down D-2’s began to be discussed across the country. Instead of 1 or 2 guys modifying calls in their garage, discussions began happening all across the United States. These discussions led to the sky rocketing price and the scarce quantities of Olt Model D-2’s that exists today. Additionally, because of the primitive plastics that the P.S. Olt calls were made of the barrels that still exist from the 1930’s, 1940’s and 1950’s are extremely fragile forcing hunters to spend significant amounts of money in order to have a complete cut down D-2.
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It was into this market that Rolling Thunder Game Calls saw the opportunity to make the hunting effectiveness of the cut down duck call available commercially. Black Stick of Death has been engineered with only the most durable materials available. Made of material that is resilient to temperatures up to 500 degrees Fahrenheit with UV stability, the durability of the Black Stick of Death makes normal duck call discussions regarding moisture and temperature changes seem awfully silly. While by no means the easiest call to blow on the market, its effective ability to kill ducks puts it into a league of its own and gives any hunter more than enough incentive to practice, practice, practice!

**Information gathered from http://www.psolt.com and other credible sources was used in research for the writing of this article. Rolling Thunder Game Calls is grateful to the P.S. Olt Comapny for their tremendous contributions to the duck call industry.
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Re: Cutdown

Postby insaneduck » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:05 pm

Black monster by bryce decker works amazing
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