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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Flightstopper » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:22 pm

Tomkat wrote:I went to Cabelas today and tried out a few calls. Needless to say they didn't have many left, and what they did have were mostly out of tune.

I tried the RNT Daisy Cutter (badly in need of a tune) Timber Hawg (having back pressure issues) MVP, and Diablo.

I didn't care for any of them, but then again, it was the bottom of the barrel crap. I was hoping to get my hands on an Original...


If your air is right that MVP is choice.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Tomkat » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:27 pm

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Tomkat wrote:I went to Cabelas today and tried out a few calls. Needless to say they didn't have many left, and what they did have were mostly out of tune.

I tried the RNT Daisy Cutter (badly in need of a tune) Timber Hawg (having back pressure issues) MVP, and Diablo.

I didn't care for any of them, but then again, it was the bottom of the barrel crap. I was hoping to get my hands on an Original...


If your air is right that MVP is choice.


QUESTION: I noticed on the RNT site you can get an original for a lot less than an acrylic. Will that make the call any different to learn on? I know the sound will be different.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby rebelp74 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:30 pm

The Original is a great single reed starter call but a MVP or Daisy Cutter wouldn't be a bad choice they are great calls.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Flightstopper » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:38 pm

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Tomkat wrote:I went to Cabelas today and tried out a few calls. Needless to say they didn't have many left, and what they did have were mostly out of tune.

I tried the RNT Daisy Cutter (badly in need of a tune) Timber Hawg (having back pressure issues) MVP, and Diablo.

I didn't care for any of them, but then again, it was the bottom of the barrel crap. I was hoping to get my hands on an Original...


If your air is right that MVP is choice.


QUESTION: I noticed on the RNT site you can get an original for a lot less than an acrylic. Will that make the call any different to learn on? I know the sound will be different.


Not following your question TK. An original in wood? Originals do come in acrylic and run the same price range as other acrylics. Try and get your hands on a short barrel. Short barrel is to daisy cutter as original is to MVP. SB and original are both smooth runners but fall into the sound profile of the latter more aggressive calls. In person it's easier to demonstrate.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Tomkat » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:20 pm

The Original is sold in both wood and acrylic. The wood one is much less expensive. Put the wine down and re read my question.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Flightstopper » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:27 pm

Tomkat wrote:The Original is sold in both wood and acrylic. The wood one is much less expensive. Put the wine down and re read my question.


You said original, not original in wood. Either one would be night and day vs any double reed although acrylic is much crisper. What difference that actually makes to the ducks I can't say. I do prefer the feel of running acrylics
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Tomkat » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:54 pm

Got it. what I am looking to do is learn how to work a single reed. Dont care that much about diffrence in sound as opposed to learning how to get more range and inflection in my calling.

So based on that would a coco or an acrylic original be about the same?
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby rebelp74 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:56 pm

Tomkat wrote:Got it. what I am looking to do is learn how to work a single reed. Dont care that much about diffrence in sound as opposed to learning how to get more range and inflection in my calling.

So based on that would a coco or an acrylic original be about the same?

It really doesn't matter since you are trying to learn on one. Check your pm's.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Tomkat » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:01 pm

Thanks to both of u. I am really wanting to become a better caller.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby jehler » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:41 pm

Tomkat wrote:Thanks to both of u. I am really wanting to become a better caller.

If you want to be a better caller, worry less about calls or tuning and sit out on the lake in the spring and listen to the suzies, you'll find there is no "right" sound and that ducks call a lot different than guys in videos
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Westie25 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:54 pm

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Tomkat wrote:I have the double reed down okay. Just want to see if I can get a better tone range with a single as many claim.

Make sure you put some voice into the call.


You don't need voice.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby The Duck Hammer » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:26 pm

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Tomkat wrote:I have the double reed down okay. Just want to see if I can get a better tone range with a single as many claim.

Make sure you put some voice into the call.


You don't need voice.


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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Westie25 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:32 pm

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rebelp74 wrote:
Tomkat wrote:I have the double reed down okay. Just want to see if I can get a better tone range with a single as many claim.

Make sure you put some voice into the call.


You don't need voice.


Yes you do.


I run a daisy cutter and a short barrel just fine without voice.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby aunt betty » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:21 pm

jehler wrote:
Tomkat wrote:Thanks to both of u. I am really wanting to become a better caller.

If you want to be a better caller, worry less about calls or tuning and sit out on the lake in the spring and listen to the suzies, you'll find there is no "right" sound and that ducks call a lot different than guys in videos


I hunt Arkansas green timber and I'm here to tell ya that when you start putting a little voice into your single-reed calls...they come to life and the ducks notice the difference. Double-reeds, not so much.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby jehler » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:25 pm

I put voice in my calls, but not always, gotta keep it mixed up
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby assateague » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:30 pm

When I go out in my blaze orange this year, I'm going to use only my voice (no call at all) to complete the experiment.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby rebelp74 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:35 pm

I saw a video somewhere of a guy that uses his mouth instead of calls.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby assateague » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:40 pm

The difference is that I don't pretend to be even a little good at it :lol:
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby assateague » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:40 pm

I simply don't think ducks are near as clever as most like to think.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby rebelp74 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:42 pm

I agree, except for heavily pressured birds. They get pretty clever.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby jehler » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:44 pm

When jr and I hunted the wax this last fall it was an eye opener, we went out solo and didn't call at all as that often works for us better than calling up here, the birds wanted nothing to do with quiet decoys. Had to talk them all the way down
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby The Duck Hammer » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:08 pm

Westie25 wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:
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rebelp74 wrote:
Tomkat wrote:I have the double reed down okay. Just want to see if I can get a better tone range with a single as many claim.

Make sure you put some voice into the call.


You don't need voice.


Yes you do.


I run a daisy cutter and a short barrel just fine without voice.


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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Tomkat » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:21 pm

I am killing ducks now. I don't want to run a competion routine. I just want to have a better comeback etc. and I agree with you and Phil Robertson. A duck couldn't win a calling contest.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Westie25 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:23 pm

The Duck Hammer wrote:
Westie25 wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:
Westie25 wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:[quote="Tomkat"]I have the double reed down okay. Just want to see if I can get a better tone range with a single as many claim.

Make sure you put some voice into the call.


You don't need voice.


Yes you do.


I run a daisy cutter and a short barrel just fine without voice.


One day you will see the light my friend. ;)[/quote]

I once thought I needed voice, then I was shown the light.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby rebelp74 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:26 pm

It's all about air presentation, you don't have to have voice to reach certain sounds, just change the presentation of the air. For a beginner on a single reed, put air into the call. Once you become efficient, start trying other to get other sounds out of it. You'll be suprised all the different sounds and ducks you can get out of the call.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby The Duck Hammer » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:28 pm

Westie25 wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:
Westie25 wrote:
I run a daisy cutter and a short barrel just fine without voice.


One day you will see the light my friend. ;)


I once thought I needed voice, then I was shown the light.


I feel like you could learn something from these guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNaJkN8NEEI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYcBWcEhivA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNsHTdkA6lU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csUliJvGn9g
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby rebelp74 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:33 pm

I feel those dweeby ass little kids probably don't kill many ducks!
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby The Duck Hammer » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:36 pm

rebelp74 wrote:I feel those dweeby ass little kids probably don't kill many ducks!

:lol: They posted a link on DHC bragging about their skillz.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby 3legged_lab » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:40 pm

rebelp74 wrote:I feel those dweeby ass little kids probably don't kill many ducks!

The guy in the first video looks constipated.
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Re: tuning your calls

Postby Bufflehead » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:21 pm

rebelp74 wrote:I feel those dweeby ass little kids probably don't kill many ducks!

no BS, that kid posted up on DHC telling a guy to get up with him that he knows all about hunting open water in NC.

a couple days later, i get a PM from the same kid wanting to know about hunting eiders and old squaw in NC. i've never even seen a eider in NC and we get VERY few oldsquaws.
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