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Are there any substitutions for these? I was looking in status of steel for a 3" cheddite load which I see is non-existent.

Flightstopper wrote:Are there any substitutions for these? I was looking in status of steel for a 3" cheddite load which I see is non-existent.

They are the same. What wads you lookin to use?

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Multi hull, cheddite, rio, fiochi.... They are all close enough for me

That's what I was hoping to hear. Jarbo, have a Jehler grab bag of wads to play with and one of his loads I was going to try. MM, 1 1/4 shot and 36ish gr steel if I remember correctly.

Have you tried the lbc wads yet?

jehler wrote:Have you tried the lbc wads yet?

Just got all the in laws crap out of my reloading room last weekend. Reving up to run through that whole red box with whatever loads I can find that catch my eye to take to the range.

X2 on the similarity of hulls.
36 gns seems high to me using 1 1/4oz with MM wad. Never loaded it though

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Good call Jarbo.

Cheddite hull with 36 grains of steel, lbc wad and 1 1/4 ounce of shot is my pet load, gives me 1500-1515 and is a few hundred pounds over spec. I shoot them out of a 3.5" gun but jgun has been shooting them out of a 3" gun for years. Of course his 11-87 didn't last to long....

That same load with a win209 and 35 grains of steel powder comes in at 1440-1450 and is a very solid performer

That load above with multi medals was mediocre in my benelli but patterned way better than the lbc's did out if jguns old Remington heavy duck

I also like the lbc wads, 1 1/8 in Fed is a good performer. Never used MM for anything over 1oz.

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jehler wrote:That load above with multi medals was mediocre in my benelli but patterned way better than the lbc's did out if jguns old Remington heavy duck

Know anyone that's run it through an invector plus barrel?

You won't know till you try it, load 9 and give 3 for a ic, mod and an im and see she's they look like

jehler wrote:You won't know till you try it, load 9 and give 3 for a ic, mod and an im and see she's they look like

Will do. Any others worth a chance?

What all wads do you have?

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CBC-43, ranger plus, turkey ranger, tuwsbl24 28 & 32, c-lbc, mm1275, bpi sts. Then x12x, ob12 bpgs gas seals. Spreaders and a bit of 47 buffer.

Those sts wads have changes names a half dozen times now I think, you'll want to look at there site in what they are calling them now, might find some more recipes

I had high hopes for a fast light clbc load but never for there, maybe this summer?

jehler wrote:Those sts wads have changes names a half dozen times now I think, you'll want to look at there site in what they are calling them now, might find some more recipes

Looks to be MG 42

jehler wrote:I had high hopes for a fast light clbc load but never for there, maybe this summer?

7/8oz?

Flightstopper wrote:

jehler wrote:I had high hopes for a fast light clbc load but never for there, maybe this summer?

7/8oz?

i don't have the manual in front of me but think there was a few of 7/8 to an ounce

There are some 1600-1700 fps 7/8oz loads with Longshot using clbc, never loaded any. I have really liked the STS 1oz load with Longshot in 2 3/4 ched, 1570 I believe, killed many ducks with it, also makes some great lead loads.

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If I reloaded, i almost know for sure that I would be one lead shooting mofo, which is probably why I don't do it.

assateague wrote:If I reloaded, i almost know for sure that I would be one lead shooting mofo, which is probably why I don't do it.

hell, that has nothing to do with reloading! Trust me, looking at your hulls is not proof enough for the man

It is here. These federal wardens aren't the brightest bulbs. If it said "Xpert steel 2", that's good enough for them.

Until they drop a magnet on it.

Hevi shot.

Tungsten.

assateague wrote:If I reloaded, i almost know for sure that I would be one lead shooting mofo, which is probably why I don't do it.

Same here, just too tempting.

Flightstopper wrote:Until they drop a magnet on it.

magnets are obsolete. Bismuth doesnt attract to magnets nor do a lot of the other shots.