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Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:15 am
by Flightstopper
This guy claimed he had a 375c but the plate just says 375. How do you tell if it has been upgraded to the taper crimp?

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Re: Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:16 am
by Flightstopper
@jehler

Re: Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:26 am
by assateague
I was curious (and a little bored on a Monday morning) and found this. I am a researcher, after all.


(DISCLAIMER: I HAVE NEVER, NOR WILL I PROBABLY EVER, RAN A RELOADER. I'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN ONE IN PERSON.)




Look at the hull knock out tool, and see if it a solid rod, or a spring loaded cup.

The old non C will have a solid post knock out rod, while a newer C tool set will have a spring loaded cup knock out tool instead. In the below photos, look at the tool by the handle. the machines are the same in both a C or older non C, and its the tool set that is different in the machine instead (so yes, an older not C can be upgraded to a C machine.

This is a 375C,



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This is a non taper crimping 375,



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And to throw you a curve ball, here is a 16 gauge 375 tool set, with a 12 gauge 375C tool set in the same head (not installed in the head is the pre-crimpers for both).



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Staring from the front center tool and working to the left cockwise,
12 gauge deprimer, 12 gauge C knock out tool, 12 gauge c crimper, primer tool, then drop tube.

On the center back and working clockwise,
16 gauge deprimer, 16 gauge knock out rod (375), 375 crimper, priming tool, and drop tube.

So yes, you can have the machine with two different type tools sets up in the head, since to change gauge on the machine, you pull the head, rotate it 180, then change out the wad guide and sizer for the tool set that you will be using.

Re: Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:31 am
by Flightstopper
THANKS ASSA! I was trying to look at the shell holder length as the determining factor. I also expected the plate to say 375c on it but it looks like it denotes the C at the end of the serial number. The shop doesn't open for another half hour so o have to call back.

Re: Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:32 am
by assateague
The same stuff said the conversion kit to make a 375 a 375C is around $70, if the one you're looking at isn't.

Re: Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:34 am
by Flightstopper
assateague wrote:The same stuff said the conversion kit to make a 375 a 375C is around $70, if the one you're looking at isn't.


Yeah I had to throw him a bit more money to get him to ship it and if it wasn't a C I didn't want to pay what I had offered, though still would come out ahead. He was asking $50 for someone to come pick it up and I got him at $175.

Re: Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:52 am
by jehler
I don't know flight, I don't think mine is a taper crimper, there is a separate whootanany that gives it a taper opposite the crimper

Re: Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:52 am
by RonE
Flightstopper wrote:
assateague wrote:The same stuff said the conversion kit to make a 375 a 375C is around $70, if the one you're looking at isn't.


Yeah I had to throw him a bit more money to get him to ship it and if it wasn't a C I didn't want to pay what I had offered, though still would come out ahead. He was asking $50 for someone to come pick it up and I got him at $175.


You are going to like it...............At Posness Warren, we don't re-load, we re-manufacture.

Re: Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:08 am
by Flightstopper
jehler wrote:I don't know flight, I don't think mine is a taper crimper, there is a separate whootanany that gives it a taper opposite the crimper


Hmm these damn whootananies.

Re: Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:08 am
by Flightstopper
RonE wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:
assateague wrote:The same stuff said the conversion kit to make a 375 a 375C is around $70, if the one you're looking at isn't.


Yeah I had to throw him a bit more money to get him to ship it and if it wasn't a C I didn't want to pay what I had offered, though still would come out ahead. He was asking $50 for someone to come pick it up and I got him at $175.


You are going to like it...............At Posness Warren, we don't re-load, we re-manufacture.


Haha I like it

Re: Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:13 am
by Flightstopper
Spoke with the shop and like Assa they said if the final stage has a spring on it it's a C. I'm going for it.

Re: Ponsness warren 375

PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:36 pm
by Flightstopper
Getting a little carried away. Brother on the commentary. Will have a spring to draw it back after the shell drops.