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An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby Olly » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:41 pm

So all over the internet on prepper websites lately they've been talking about making a small heater for a small space out of two clay pots and a few small tea candles and by using convection.

Basically you take two different sizes of pots and place them both over some candles. The smaller pot on the inside get's very hot and warms the air in between the two pots and that is what heats the room. I was at TSC just bored and remembered I wanted to try this out. So for about $6 in pots and candles I already had in my SHTF stock I'm going to give it a go.

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8" Standard pot
6" standard pot
bread pan
6 tea candles

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Starting temps of the pot and the room.

The larger outer most pot.

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The room temp. 58*

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And the outer most pot's temp at 15 minutes!

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So maybe this has some merit? My prediction is that the pot won't get much hotter and I doubt the temperature of the room will raise more than it would without the pot. My living room where the "heater" is, is 220 sq/ft give or take.

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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby assateague » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:45 pm

I love experiments like these.
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby bill herian » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:00 pm

Its not going to bring it to room temp, but it will keep a small space (like a truck cab) warm enough to keep you alive in a survival situation.

Be a good thing to put in an outhouse.
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby 3legged_lab » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:23 pm

bill herian wrote:Its not going to bring it to room temp, but it will keep a small space (like a truck cab) warm enough to keep you alive in a survival situation.

Be a good thing to put in an outhouse.

Get a bigger pot and a bigger candle.
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby Olly » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:30 pm

Just past the hour mark and the outside pot is over 160* if you're standing within 3ft of it you can feel the heat slightly. Room temperature remains the same.

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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby aunt betty » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:00 pm

What you are "proving" is called ohms law.
Its an electrical thing but the same formula...
V=IR is used but with different variables.
R is resistance or insulation value...hmmm
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Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:04 pm

looks pretty neat, but how do you have it set up exactly? candles under the big pot which has the little pot in it?
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby aunt betty » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:05 pm

A computer gives off more heat than a candle. So does a human body. A candle powered heater is like trying to heat a room with your sisters easy bake oven. 15 of them would do it.
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Postby aunt betty » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:08 pm

If the room was a refrigerator box... it'd be perfect. Ever watch "dis ole box" on In Living Color? Hehe
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby Olly » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:29 pm

2 hour mark and the outside pot is over 190* and the room as gone from 58* to a whopping 63*.
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby 3legged_lab » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:47 pm

aunt betty wrote:What you are "proving" is called ohms law.
Its an electrical thing but the same formula...
V=IR is used but with different variables.
R is resistance or insulation value...hmmm

So can the flower pot shock him?
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Postby The Duck Hammer » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:56 pm

Pretty cool stuff. Been looking for a blind heater and this looks like its worth trying.
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby Bad17 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:09 pm

Trying it on the 21st if it's cold.
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Postby Redbeard » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:18 pm

3legged_lab wrote:
aunt betty wrote:What you are "proving" is called ohms law.
Its an electrical thing but the same formula...
V=IR is used but with different variables.
R is resistance or insulation value...hmmm

So can the flower pot shock him?
only if he's grounded
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby Olly » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:36 pm

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Hour 3 and that is the outside temp of the pot.

However it doesn't seem to have done much for the temperature of the room. I'll wait until all the candles are out but if you have a room bigger than 50 sq/ft I'd call this myth busted. I might try this in my bathroom. With the door closed and see how much it affects a much smaller room.
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Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:38 pm

Olly wrote:
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Hour 3 and that is the outside temp of the pot.

However it doesn't seem to have done much for the temperature of the room. I'll wait until all the candles are out but if you have a room bigger than 50 sq/ft I'd call this myth busted. I might try this in my bathroom. With the door closed and see how much it affects a much smaller room.


yeah i think you'd need a bigger pot with more thermal mass to make it work in a big room. i bet it would work great in the bathroom/truck bed/blind though.
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Postby aunt betty » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:40 pm

Olly, try this one but outside. Old timer I know who fishes in February uses a two-pound coffee can filled with sand and a quart of gasoline to make an el cheapo heater. According to him it will burn for hours. Never had the cajones to try.
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby RonE » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:43 pm

Think of the possibilities: perhaps scented candles for this heater in the bathroom or bigger pots and bigger candles.
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Postby 3legged_lab » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:43 pm

A small room maybe but the blind - gone like a fart in the wind.
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Postby sws002 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:48 pm

3legged_lab wrote:A small room maybe but the blind - gone like a fart in the wind.


I don't know, this might work pretty well in a blind, might have to try it out.
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Postby Bulldog0156 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:50 pm

Cool experiment boss!

I pay my heat bill, so I really don't see the need for this in the future ;)
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby aunt betty » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:52 pm

I use a ready heater in my boat/blind. Its 10 or 15,000 BTU. It takes the chill off, keeps your stuff dryer, and also keeps the guns from freezing up from the dog shaking water on them.
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Postby bill herian » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:25 am

Can we all just admit who was right?
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby Olly » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:36 am

You mean me in my first post when I said it wouldn't do anything?


Thanks for backing ME up Bill.
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby huntall6 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:58 am

Didn't know you were a prepper, Olly. Try cooking on the pots. Just to see if it worked.
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby Olly » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:06 am

huntall6 wrote:Didn't know you were a prepper, Olly. Try cooking on the pots. Just to see if it worked.



It would take hours to get a pot of water boiling I think. Maybe 10 of these would warm a room or fewer larger ones with more candles but the size that I tried was a failure.
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby RonE » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:07 am

Olly wrote:
huntall6 wrote:Didn't know you were a prepper, Olly. Try cooking on the pots. Just to see if it worked.



It would take hours to get a pot of water boiling I think. Maybe 10 of these would warm a room or fewer larger ones with more candles but the size that I tried was a failure.


I wouldn't consider it a failure because you used a small space heater in a large room. Think of it as a "Success" with no consequences.
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby Deltaman » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:47 am

Had an older gentleman show me another poor man's means of heat in a blind, similar to Betty's. Use a 1 lb coffe can and insert a roll of toilet paper, minus the cardboard core. Pour enough rubbing alcohol in it to just cover the roll and light it. It will burn low and slow, and give you enough heat to warm your hands, dry your socks, and will last a couple of hours.
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Re: An experiment - flower pot heater

Postby Olly » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:16 am

Deltaman wrote:Had an older gentleman show me another poor man's means of heat in a blind, similar to Betty's. Use a 1 lb coffe can and insert a roll of toilet paper, minus the cardboard core. Pour enough rubbing alcohol in it to just cover the roll and light it. It will burn low and slow, and give you enough heat to warm your hands, dry your socks, and will last a couple of hours.


Used to do the same thing with kerosene. Called smudge pots.
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