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[3geese4me]

Hmmm.....

I vote yes.

[Mornin Beef]

I agree. But "Mathlike forces" is most certainly not "math". "Math" is a human contrivance. Much like "spoon". No matter what you call it, what name you give it, it is still a "thing that looks like a spoon", because that is the name we gave it. But its identity is based on it's function, which can therefore change based on use, and is outside the control of our language. If I'm digging a hole in the sandbox with a "spoon", is it still a "spoon", or is it a "shovel"? It's now a "shovel" ( a "tool utilized for digging or moving loose objects, generally 'earth' ") So when it's in the drawer is it a spoon or a shovel? We don't know until it gets used, which is the "result".

Same with probability and math. It changes based on what we know. And what the result is. Probability is useless until you get a "result", same as finally using the spoonlike thing. And as soon as that result rolls in, there are only two possible options: did, or did not.

The 50/50[TRADE MARK SIGN] even unites Christian principles with Zen principles with Buddhist principles with Communist principles. It is the great equalizer, the grand unifier.

Embrace it Beef, before it rolls you over.

Didnt say mathlike forces. Related math to being like forces or matter described in physics. Math is ingrained language. All your describing is the path of discovery in mathematics. And like anything in this universe nothing is proven, not even your 50/50. You may test 50/50 and it works but only until to think of it again. Axioms are ever shifting and we can only catch glimpses of truth through mathematics.

Nope. It works every time, under any condition, in any system. That my friend is the very essence of "Law".

Not sure you get the drift, there is no definitive law in science, math, your brain or anywhere else. You gain confidence through tests like any good thinking being, through peer review to make sure the tester isnt cheating, through strife and maybe justifiable insanity. Humans are lazy, 50/50 fleets the same, and is easy. Poop.

[sws002]

Not sure you get the drift, there is no definitive law in science, math, your brain or anywhere else. You gain confidence through tests like any good thinking being, through peer review to make sure the tester isnt cheating, through strife and maybe justifiable insanity. Humans are lazy, 50/50 fleets the same, and is easy. Poop.

You are trying to use scientific reasoning to justify the law, that is your flaw. 50/50 holds up because there is no human definition (science, math or otherwise) required, no matter the situation, the end results are always the same. Either it did or it didn't, it is or it isn't, yes or no, any way you cut it, there are only ever two outcomes and when there are only two outcomes the odds are 50/50. There is no testing, there are only results, and the results will set you free!

[Mornin Beef]

Not sure you get the drift, there is no definitive law in science, math, your brain or anywhere else. You gain confidence through tests like any good thinking being, through peer review to make sure the tester isnt cheating, through strife and maybe justifiable insanity. Humans are lazy, 50/50 fleets the same, and is easy. Poop.

You are trying to use scientific reasoning to justify the law, that is your flaw. 50/50 holds up because there is no human definition (science, math or otherwise) required, no matter the situation, the end results are always the same. Either it did or it didn't, it is or it isn't, yes or no, any way you cut it, there are only ever two outcomes and when there are only two outcomes the odds are 50/50. There is no testing, there are only results, and the results will set you free!

Your better drink another one buddy and get ready for your sponsors wake up call cuz your fucked.

[sws002]

Not sure you get the drift, there is no definitive law in science, math, your brain or anywhere else. You gain confidence through tests like any good thinking being, through peer review to make sure the tester isnt cheating, through strife and maybe justifiable insanity. Humans are lazy, 50/50 fleets the same, and is easy. Poop.

You are trying to use scientific reasoning to justify the law, that is your flaw. 50/50 holds up because there is no human definition (science, math or otherwise) required, no matter the situation, the end results are always the same. Either it did or it didn't, it is or it isn't, yes or no, any way you cut it, there are only ever two outcomes and when there are only two outcomes the odds are 50/50. There is no testing, there are only results, and the results will set you free!

Your better drink another one buddy and get ready for your sponsors wake up call cuz your fucked.

In case you didn't catch it earlier (which I'm guessing you didn't), I have my degree in Mathematics, so I'm plenty aware of statistics and probabilities. However, the logic in the 50/50 is infallible, it doesn't matter what scenario you conjure up, in the end, there are only two possible outcomes, either the desired outcome was achieved or it wasn't, and that, my friend, is 50/50.

[aunt betty]

Bullshit.
Back to the bet.
You can bet, or not.
The whole thing falls to pieces when you attach risk, gain, and loss.
Someone with a math degree probably works for an insurance company. Those kinda people would refuse to waste time arguing such a silly thing.
One definition of insanity is someone who argues online with strangers.
We are all fucking loopy.

[assateague]

Ok, then- go ask 1,000 people what "odds" are acceptable for them to place a $100 wager. Unless you get the same answer 1,000 times, that basically means that "odds" are nothing more than bullshit guidelines, open for personal interpretation.

The only difference between "odds" and The 50/50 is that The 50/50 predicts with 100% accuracy every time. EVERY time.

But hey, if you want to cling to a notional system, which is really nothing more than a statistical version of a little pink security blanket, more power to you.

[assateague]

Make no mistake- I'm not arguing, I'm telling. The 50/50 is non-negotiable.

[aunt betty]

Make no mistake- I'm not arguing, I'm telling. The 50/50 is non-negotiable.

You are insane. Welcome to the club. You are arguing, have been, and wont quit.

[Eric Haynes]

Betty seems to be stuck on betting for some reason. He's falling apart and betting is his last string left of aan arguement. Little does he know AT has a pair of scissors waiting.

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[assateague]

Make no mistake- I'm not arguing, I'm telling. The 50/50 is non-negotiable.

You are insane. Welcome to the club. You are arguing, have been, and wont quit.

Is a professor arguing with his students when he imparts knowledge? Is a pastor arguing with his flock when he imparts wisdom?

[aunt betty]

Make no mistake- I'm not arguing, I'm telling. The 50/50 is non-negotiable.

You are insane. Welcome to the club. You are arguing, have been, and wont quit.

Is a professor arguing with his students when he imparts knowledge? Is a pastor arguing with his flock when he imparts wisdom?

Yes.
As humans, we are constantly evaluating risks. We make desisions based on these risks and odds of failure, catastrophe, or death.
You want to ignore that to prove a silly point that nine-yr-olds discovered.
Jump off a building. 50/50 you will live. We all know better than that except you.
You want to cling to this Law you so firmly believe in.
Jump. You might live.

Change your avatar. Prof. from gilligans island is soooo you.

[aunt betty]

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[Eric Haynes]

Make no mistake- I'm not arguing, I'm telling. The 50/50 is non-negotiable.

You are insane. Welcome to the club. You are arguing, have been, and wont quit.

Is a professor arguing with his students when he imparts knowledge? Is a pastor arguing with his flock when he imparts wisdom?

Yes.
As humans, we are constantly evaluating risks. We make desisions based on these risks and odds of failure, catastrophe, or death.
You want to ignore that to prove a silly point that nine-yr-olds discovered.
Jump off a building. 50/50 you will live. We all know better than that except you.
You want to cling to this Law you so firmly believe in.
Jump. You might live.

Change your avatar. Prof. from gilligans island is soooo you.

You just proved his point even better. You will either live or die. There is no other option.

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[assateague]

For some reason, Betty is confusing "consequences" with "outcomes". That's ok, though- you can still get a shirt, Betty!

[aunt betty]

Make no mistake- I'm not arguing, I'm telling. The 50/50 is non-negotiable.

You are insane. Welcome to the club. You are arguing, have been, and wont quit.

Is a professor arguing with his students when he imparts knowledge? Is a pastor arguing with his flock when he imparts wisdom?

Yes.
As humans, we are constantly evaluating risks. We make desisions based on these risks and odds of failure, catastrophe, or death.
You want to ignore that to prove a silly point that nine-yr-olds discovered.
Jump off a building. 50/50 you will live. We all know better than that except you.
You want to cling to this Law you so firmly believe in.
Jump. You might live.

Change your avatar. Prof. from gilligans island is soooo you.

You just proved his point even better. You will either live or die. There is no other option.

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But would you take a chance? Why not. Only two outcomes.

I really want to see you guys do a series of youtube videos that proves your point well. There is a very good chance phrases like cracked pot, screw loose, partial deck, etc. will be used to desribe the series.

You just don't fucking get it and never, ever will. I have stated it twice.
There is no real value to this law other than for bullshitting therefore it is a bullshit law.
I agree with you 100% but you can't fucking see what the actual argument is.
The practicality.

[assateague]

What value is there to the other version of "odds" if everyone has a different idea of what's worth the risk at, say, 49:1. I bet Bill Gates would be willing to bet more than I at the same "odds".

So what practical use are yours?

[aunt betty]

Now here is something that started the dark ages.
Some MATH scientists said something like..."if you add the three angles on a triangle it adds up to 180 degrees and NOT EVEN GOD CAN CHANGE THAT.
50/50 they burned him.

[assateague]

Pretty sure that was about 3000 years before the Dark Ages. Although its 50/50 the ancient Greeks had time machines.

[Eric Haynes]

Now here is something that started the dark ages.
Some MATH scientists said something like..."if you add the three angles on a triangle it adds up to 180 degrees and NOT EVEN GOD CAN CHANGE THAT.
50/50 they burned him.

dumb statement. God couldn't even change this DP I'm drinking into a beer, yet a human could. Just like only humans could change pythagreons theorem or any other math therorem. We made them up...not god.

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[aunt betty]

What value is there to the other version of "odds" if everyone has a different idea of what's worth the risk at, say, 49:1. I bet Bill Gates would be willing to bet more than I at the same "odds".

So what practical use are yours?

Now you're just being stupid. The only reason you let your kid go to that nazi teacher you bitch about is because you feel the odds are strong that she will arrive home safely at the end of the day. If I told you there is a 50/50 chance your kid wont make it home...does that change things? Of course there is always that chance but it is NOT 50% or you'd never risk it. Now quit and come down to earth and smell some reality a little.

[Eric Haynes]

What value is there to the other version of "odds" if everyone has a different idea of what's worth the risk at, say, 49:1. I bet Bill Gates would be willing to bet more than I at the same "odds".

So what practical use are yours?

Now you're just being stupid. The only reason you let your kid go to that nazi teacher you bitch about is because you feel the odds are strong that she will arrive home safely at the end of the day. If I told you there is a 50/50 chance your kid wont make it home...does that change things? Of course there is always that chance but it is NOT 50% or you'd never risk it. Now quit and come down to earth and smell some reality a little.

It is only 50/50 if she comes home every day. No matter what teacher she has.

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[assateague]

What value is there to the other version of "odds" if everyone has a different idea of what's worth the risk at, say, 49:1. I bet Bill Gates would be willing to bet more than I at the same "odds".

So what practical use are yours?

Now you're just being stupid. The only reason you let your kid go to that nazi teacher you bitch about is because you feel the odds are strong that she will arrive home safely at the end of the day. If I told you there is a 50/50 chance your kid wont make it home...does that change things? Of course there is always that chance but it is NOT 50% or you'd never risk it. Now quit and come down to earth and smell some reality a little.

Instead of ranting,try and explain to me why there's NOT a 50% chance, and maybe I'll listen. Here are the two possible outcomes: come home safe, don't come home safe.

Go.

[Feelin' Fowl]

What value is there to the other version of "odds" if everyone has a different idea of what's worth the risk at, say, 49:1. I bet ANYONE would be willing to bet more than my cheap ass at the same "odds".

So what practical use are yours?

FIFY

[aunt betty]

You know...this 50/50 bullshit works both ways.
AT is insisting there is a 100% chance that he is right.
THAT's the problem.
It goes against his own law.(boom)
By definition, that is a hypocryte.
There is a 50/50 chance AT is wrong.
There is a 50/50 chance he's fulla bullshit.
There is a 50/50 chance he knows and won't admit it.
Come clean.

[assateague]

What value is there to the other version of "odds" if everyone has a different idea of what's worth the risk at, say, 49:1. I bet ANYONE would be willing to bet more than my cheap ass at the same "odds".

So what practical use are yours?

FIFY

[assateague]

You know...this 50/50 bullshit works both ways.
AT is insisting there is a 100% chance that he is right.
THAT's the problem.
It goes against his own law.(boom)
By definition, that is a hypocryte.
There is a 50/50 chance AT is wrong.
There is a 50/50 chance he's fulla bullshit.
There is a 50/50 chance he knows and won't admit it.
Come clean.

And that is the beauty of The 50/50™, even though you don't see it- even if it is wrong, it is still right and valid. It can't be defeated. If you would like, I can dress it up in a windmill costume, and you may tilt at it to your heart's content.

[assateague]

How about this- give me one example of when it doesn't work. Just one. I bet you $100 you can't do it. And we all know that unless there's a bet, nothing is valid, apparently.

[3geese4me]

Hus brain is smoldering. He is in deep thought right now.

[sws002]

Now here is something that started the dark ages.
Some MATH scientists said something like..."if you add the three angles on a triangle it adds up to 180 degrees and NOT EVEN GOD CAN CHANGE THAT.
50/50 they burned him.

What is an angle? To refer back to Assa's previous statement, go fill up a bucket with 3 angles and bring it to me. They are not concrete objects, they are something we have created and can manipulate them to say whatever we want.