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Re: Olly

Postby jarbo03 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:40 pm

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A truck that comes to your job weekly and an interest free account on that truck changes that.



Absolutely. For 90% of the things someone will do at their house, cheaper tools will serve you just fine. When you start dealing with stripped bolts or screws, extremely tight bolts in odd angles, etc., that is when you really notice the difference.
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Re: Olly

Postby rebelp74 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:07 pm

To hell with knuckle busters.
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Re: Olly

Postby NuffDaddy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:11 pm

Half the fun of working with cheap tools is breaking bolts, knuckles, and getting pissed off.
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Re: Olly

Postby T Man » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:32 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:Half the fun of working with cheap tools is breaking bolts, knuckles, and getting pissed off.

Not when your livelihood depends on it. Flat rate is generous when you are good at what you do and can do it quickly, and brutal when you are dealing with complications.
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Re: Olly

Postby NuffDaddy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:40 pm

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NuffDaddy wrote:Half the fun of working with cheap tools is breaking bolts, knuckles, and getting pissed off.

Not when your livelihood depends on it. Flat rate is generous when you are good at what you do and can do it quickly, and brutal when you are dealing with complications.

I don't know, our shop is filled with craftsman and Milwaukee tools. Never had a problem building boats with them.
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Re: Olly

Postby T Man » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:56 pm

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NuffDaddy wrote:Half the fun of working with cheap tools is breaking bolts, knuckles, and getting pissed off.

Not when your livelihood depends on it. Flat rate is generous when you are good at what you do and can do it quickly, and brutal when you are dealing with complications.

I don't know, our shop is filled with craftsman and Milwaukee tools. Never had a problem building boats with them.


You said cheap tools. And I doubt you are building boats on a flat rate pay schedule.
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Re: Olly

Postby NuffDaddy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:02 pm

T Man wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
T Man wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Half the fun of working with cheap tools is breaking bolts, knuckles, and getting pissed off.

Not when your livelihood depends on it. Flat rate is generous when you are good at what you do and can do it quickly, and brutal when you are dealing with complications.

I don't know, our shop is filled with craftsman and Milwaukee tools. Never had a problem building boats with them.


You said cheap tools. And I doubt you are building boats on a flat rate pay schedule.

I don't really consider those good tools. But i don't have much experience with "good" tools to compare though.
I don't know how my boss charges. I think it's a combo hourly/job rate.
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Re: Olly

Postby T Man » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:32 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:I don't really consider those good tools. But i don't have much experience with "good" tools to compare though.
I don't know how my boss charges. I think it's a combo hourly/job rate.


To be honest, I bought most of my Snap On stuff because of the convenience of it. Truck pulls up, I go out and get everything I need, take and get broken stuff warrantied, and most trucks have oddball tools, like 1/4" drive flex sockets that are essential for taking out coil packs on Fords. If Craftsman did the same thing, I am sure I would have had a cabinet full of them. Its all about knowing what you are buying, and buying it for a purpose. I have almost identical rubber handled 18" flex head 3/8 drive ratchets, one Snap On, one Craftsman. The Snap On has finer gearing so it can be used in tighter quarters, but the finer teeth caused the pawl to break constantly. I would have to have it rebuilt monthly. The Craftsman was always close at hand for when it did break. I could hang from that thing and not break the gear, but it was personal preference, and most of the time I liked the finer gearing of the Snap On. Tools are like trucks, anyone that thinks they can buy one brand and always have the best is a fool. Anyone not making a living with hand tools would rarely see the need for, or be able to see the small differences. Snap On wrenches are another thing. Craftsman builds a fine professional wrench, but there were enough times I actually needed the flank drive that Snap On wrenches have that it was worth paying more than 100 dollars more a set. Anyone changing their oil in their driveway would never need this, nor see its value, but when you have to loosen a transmission bolt, and cant get a socket, or the box end of a wrench in between a valve cover and the firewall, the difference is night and day. Ive since sold most of my Snap On stuff and bought Craftsman or Husky to replace it. I dont wrench for a living anymore, so I got something that fits my use a little better, and got some money back out of my tools.
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Re: Olly

Postby NuffDaddy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:56 pm

I get what your saying. Almost all our work is with wood tools. Sanders, band saw, block plain, impact screw guns. That the majority of our dad to day tools. The little but of engine work we do we make do with lower end. Any major engine work has to be sent to a specialist because most boats run off old Curtis and Allison airplane engines that are modified for marine use.
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Re: Olly

Postby 3legged_lab » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:59 pm

jehler wrote:jr was made in the UP, not sure if that qualifies as american made or not

Ha!

It depends if the breeding stock was native American or not.
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Re: Olly

Postby T Man » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:02 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:I get what your saying. Almost all our work is with wood tools. Sanders, band saw, block plain, impact screw guns. That the majority of our dad to day tools. The little but of engine work we do we make do with lower end. Any major engine work has to be sent to a specialist because most boats run off old Curtis and Allison airplane engines that are modified for marine use.


Pictures? Link to a website for your yard? Wish we had that kind of stuff around here.
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Re: Olly

Postby Mornin Beef » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:03 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:Half the fun of working with cheap tools is breaking bolts, knuckles, and getting pissed off.

thanks i will punk. Sometimes you really make me want to fight you nuff.
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Re: Olly

Postby NuffDaddy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:19 pm

Mornin Beef wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Half the fun of working with cheap tools is breaking bolts, knuckles, and getting pissed off.

thanks i will punk. Sometimes you really make me want to fight you nuff.

What?!? Why?!?
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Re: Olly

Postby NuffDaddy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:21 pm

T Man wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:I get what your saying. Almost all our work is with wood tools. Sanders, band saw, block plain, impact screw guns. That the majority of our dad to day tools. The little but of engine work we do we make do with lower end. Any major engine work has to be sent to a specialist because most boats run off old Curtis and Allison airplane engines that are modified for marine use.


Pictures? Link to a website for your yard? Wish we had that kind of stuff around here.

Low budget website, but here ya go.
http://www.morinboats.com/Morin_Boats/R ... ation.html
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Re: Olly

Postby T Man » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:36 pm

I could look at those old chris crafts for hours
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Re: Olly

Postby Mornin Beef » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:42 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:
Mornin Beef wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Half the fun of working with cheap tools is breaking bolts, knuckles, and getting pissed off.

thanks i will punk. Sometimes you really make me want to fight you nuff.

What?!? Why?!?

Anyone who shows up at my party with half the fun will get beat down for the rest of the fun. no one holds out on this thread. lets have some fun!!!! :beer:
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Re: Olly

Postby Redbeard » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:44 pm

3legged_lab wrote:
jehler wrote:jr was made in the UP, not sure if that qualifies as american made or not

Ha!

It depends if the breeding stock was native American or not.
and no offense to Jr, cause I'm sure momma's pedigree was top of the line, but the stud was obviously a mutt
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Re: Olly

Postby jarbo03 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:48 pm

Redbeard wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:
jehler wrote:jr was made in the UP, not sure if that qualifies as american made or not

Ha!

It depends if the breeding stock was native American or not.
and no offense to Jr, cause I'm sure momma's pedigree was top of the line, but the stud was obviously a mutt


Fuckin backyard breeders, obviously drug out from underneath the trailer!
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Re: Olly

Postby NuffDaddy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:55 pm

T Man wrote:I could look at those old chris crafts for hours

I prefer the hackers, but not a one I don't like.
This is my favorite boat.
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Re: Olly

Postby capt1972 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:58 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:
T Man wrote:I could look at those old chris crafts for hours

I prefer the hackers, but not a one I don't like.
This is my favorite boat.

wasn't there a movie about that boat and the guy that drove her? owned by a town? won a big race?
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Re: Olly

Postby Mornin Beef » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:00 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:
T Man wrote:I could look at those old chris crafts for hours

I prefer the hackers, but not a one I don't like.
This is my favorite boat.

pure satanism, jesus hates that and so does everybody else statistically.
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Re: Olly

Postby Bootlipkiller » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:10 pm

Thread Closed!
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Re: Olly

Postby The Duck Hammer » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:12 pm

Bootlipkiller wrote:Thread Closed!

Who do you think you are Boot?
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Re: Olly

Postby Bufflehead » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:19 pm

Mornin Beef wrote:pure satanism, jesus hates that and so does everybody else statistically.
I guess the WIFI is back up and running in the mental institution.
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Re: Olly

Postby NuffDaddy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:21 pm

capt1972 wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
T Man wrote:I could look at those old chris crafts for hours

I prefer the hackers, but not a one I don't like.
This is my favorite boat.

wasn't there a movie about that boat and the guy that drove her? owned by a town? won a big race?

Not that I know of. Never won any major races either.
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Re: Olly

Postby Bootlipkiller » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:39 pm

The Duck Hammer wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:Thread Closed!

Who do you think you are Boot?

Chuck steak?
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Re: Olly

Postby FlintRiverFowler » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:09 am

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Olly wrote:This whole argument is fucked.

Buying American made shit isn't even a civic duty.

Being a part of one of your constitutionally protected God given rights is.
hey Olly any idea how I can get outta jury duty next week?

Do cops get jury duty?
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Re: Olly

Postby jehler » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:14 am

I buy Mac tools they are always the best for every application, just like my Chevy, it's the best truck
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Re: Olly

Postby jehler » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:18 am

jarbo03 wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:
jehler wrote:jr was made in the UP, not sure if that qualifies as american made or not

Ha!

It depends if the breeding stock was native American or not.
and no offense to Jr, cause I'm sure momma's pedigree was top of the line, but the stud was obviously a mutt


Fuckin backyard breeders, obviously drug out from underneath the trailer!
jr wasn't bred like a Kansas lab guys! Momma and I are both 50% hottness, 50% sexual energy and 50% bad motha fucker ;)
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Re: Olly

Postby Woody » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:22 am

jehler wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:
jehler wrote:jr was made in the UP, not sure if that qualifies as american made or not

Ha!

It depends if the breeding stock was native American or not.
and no offense to Jr, cause I'm sure momma's pedigree was top of the line, but the stud was obviously a mutt


Fuckin backyard breeders, obviously drug out from underneath the trailer!
jr wasn't bred like a Kansas lab guys! Momma and I are both 50% hottness, 50% sexual energy and 50% bad motha fucker ;)


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