The Offical WFF BS Thread!

[duckkillerclyde]

Open carry isn't legal in TX. Clyde you're slipping.

http://www.opencarry.org/opencarry.html

http://www.opencarry.org/tx.html

Also, If you have a concealed carry license you can't open carry at all. Once your licensed to conceal you have to keep it concealed even if you move to an open carry state.

I seriously doubt your state laws carry over to other states

tenth amendment says it doesn't.

[duckkillerclyde]

Open carry isn't legal in TX. Clyde you're slipping.

When did I say open carry was illegal?


You're tripping Olly.

[Redbeard]

Montanafowler when he open carries

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[duckkillerclyde]

The only places you can't carry a firearm in OR are

court houses
Banks with FDIC insured money
All federal buildings
Private business and private property if the owners of the property don't want you too, but it must be posted in a conspicuous place.


*Indian Reservations- sovereign nations

[duckkillerclyde]

Print it off, fill it out, send it in, wait for your licence in the mail, become OR legal. It's just that simple.



APPLICATION FOR LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUN

Date________
I hereby declare as follows:
I am a citizen of the United States or a legal resident alien who can document continuous residency in the county for at least six months and have declared in writing to the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services my intention to become a citizen and can present proof of the written declaration to the sheriff at the time of this application. I am at least 21 years of age. I have been discharged from the jurisdiction of the juvenile court for more than four years if, while a minor, I was found to be within the jurisdiction of the juvenile court for having committed an act that, if committed by an adult, would constitute a felony or a misdemeanor involving violence, as defined in ORS 166.470. I have never been convicted of a felony or found guilty, except for insanity under ORS 161.295, of a felony in the State of Oregon or elsewhere. I have not, within the last four years, been convicted of a misdemeanor or found guilty, except for insanity under ORS 161.295, of a misdemeanor. Except as provided in ORS 166.291 (1)(L), I have not been convicted of an offense involving controlled substances or completed a court-supervised drug diversion program. There are no outstanding warrants for my arrest and I am not free on any form of pretrial release. I have not been committed to the Oregon Health Authority under ORS 426.130, nor have I been found mentally ill and presently subject to an order prohibiting me from purchasing or possessing a firearm because of mental illness. If any of the previous conditions do apply to me, I have been granted relief or wish to petition for relief from the disability under ORS 166.274 or 166.293 or section 5, chapter 826, Oregon Laws 2009, or 18 U.S.C. 925(c) or have had the records expunged. I am not subject to a citation issued under ORS 163.735 or an order issued under ORS 30.866, 107.700 to 107.735 or 163.738. I have never received a dishonorable discharge from the Armed Forces of the United States. I am not required to register as a sex offender in any state. I understand I will be fingerprinted and photographed.

Legal name ____________
Age ______ Date of birth ________
Place of birth ____________
Social Security number ___________
(Disclosure of your Social Security account number is voluntary. Solicitation of the number is authorized under ORS 166.291. It will be used only as a means of identification.)

Proof of identification (Two pieces of current identification are required, one of which must bear a photograph of the applicant. The type of identification and the number on the identification are to be filled in by the sheriff.):
1.____________
2.____________

Height _____ Weight _____
Hair color _____ Eye color _____

Current address _________________________________________________
(List residence addresses for the past three years on the back.)
City _____ County _____ Zip _____
Phone _____

I have read the entire text of this application, and the statements therein are correct and true. (Making false statements on this application is a misdemeanor.)

_______________
(Signature of Applicant)
Character references.
___________________________
Name Address
___________________________
Name Address

Approved ___ Disapproved ___ by ___

Competence with handgun demonstrated by _____ (to be filled in by sheriff)
Date _____ Fee Paid _____
License No. _____
______________________________________________________________________________

(5)(a) Fees for concealed handgun licenses are:
(A) $15 to the Department of State Police for conducting the fingerprint check of the applicant.
(B) $50 to the sheriff for the issuance or renewal of a concealed handgun license.
(C) $15 to the sheriff for the duplication of a license because of loss or change of address.
(b) The sheriff may enter into an agreement with the Department of Transportation to produce the concealed handgun license.
(6) No civil or criminal liability shall attach to the sheriff or any authorized representative engaged in the receipt and review of, or an investigation connected with, any application for, or in the issuance, denial or revocation of, any license under ORS 166.291 to 166.295 as a result of the lawful performance of duties under those sections.
(7) Immediately upon acceptance of an application for a concealed handgun license, the sheriff shall enter the applicant’s name into the Law Enforcement Data System indicating that the person is an applicant for a concealed handgun license or is a license holder.
(8) The county sheriff may waive the residency requirement in subsection (1)(c) of this section for a resident of a contiguous state who has a compelling business interest or other legitimate demonstrated need.
(9) For purposes of subsection (1)(c) of this section, a person is a resident of a county if the person:
(a) Has a current Oregon driver license issued to the person showing a residence address in the county;
(b) Is registered to vote in the county and has a memorandum card issued to the person under ORS 247.181 showing a residence address in the county;
(c) Has documentation showing that the person currently leases or owns real property in the county; or
(d) Has documentation showing that the person filed an Oregon tax return for the most recent tax year showing a residence address in the county. [1989 c.839 §8 (166.291 to 166.293 enacted in lieu of 166.290); 1991 c.67 §38; 1993 c.732 §2; 1993 c.735 §4; 1995 c.729 §6; 1999 c.1052 §6; 2001 c.104 §56; 2003 c.166 §1; 2005 c.22 §115; 2007 c.368 §2; 2009 c.595 §113; 2009 c.826 §7; 2011 c.547 §33]

Note: The amendments to 166.291 by section 10, chapter 826, Oregon Laws 2009, become operative January 2, 2016. See section 14, chapter 826, Oregon Laws 2009, as amended by section 23, chapter 826, Oregon Laws 2009, and section 2, chapter 448, Oregon Laws 2011. The text that is operative on and after January 2, 2016, including amendments by section 34, chapter 547, Oregon Laws 2011, is set forth for the user’s convenience.
166.291. (1) The sheriff of a county, upon a person’s application for an Oregon concealed handgun license, upon receipt of the appropriate fees and after compliance with the procedures set out in this section, shall issue the person a concealed handgun license if the person:
(a)(A) Is a citizen of the United States; or
(B) Is a legal resident alien who can document continuous residency in the county for at least six months and has declared in writing to the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services the intent to acquire citizenship status and can present proof of the written declaration to the sheriff at the time of application for the license;
(b) Is at least 21 years of age;
(c) Is a resident of the county;
(d) Has no outstanding warrants for arrest;
(e) Is not free on any form of pretrial release;
(f) Demonstrates competence with a handgun by any one of the following:
(A) Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the State Department of Fish and Wildlife or a similar agency of another state if handgun safety was a component of the course;
(B) Completion of any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course if handgun safety was a component of the course;
(C) Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by law enforcement, community college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or a law enforcement agency if handgun safety was a component of the course;
(D) Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, reserve law enforcement officers or any other law enforcement officers if handgun safety was a component of the course;
(E) Presents evidence of equivalent experience with a handgun through participation in organized shooting competition or military service;
(F) Is licensed or has been licensed to carry a firearm in this state, unless the license has been revoked; or
(G) Completion of any firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a firearms instructor certified by a law enforcement agency or the National Rifle Association if handgun safety was a component of the course;
(g) Has never been convicted of a felony or found guilty, except for insanity under ORS 161.295, of a felony;
(h) Has not been convicted of a misdemeanor or found guilty, except for insanity under ORS 161.295, of a misdemeanor within the four years prior to the application;
(i) Has not been committed to the Oregon Health Authority under ORS 426.130;
(j) Has not been found to be mentally ill and is not subject to an order under ORS 426.130 that the person be prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm as a result of that mental illness;
(k) Has been discharged from the jurisdiction of the juvenile court for more than four years if, while a minor, the person was found to be within the jurisdiction of the juvenile court for having committed an act that, if committed by an adult, would constitute a felony or a misdemeanor involving violence, as defined in ORS 166.470;
(L) Has not been convicted of an offense involving controlled substances or participated in a court-supervised drug diversion program, except this disability does not operate to exclude a person if:
(A) The person has been convicted only once of violating ORS 475.864 (3) and has not completed a court-supervised drug diversion program under ORS 135.907; or
(B) The person has completed a court-supervised drug diversion program under ORS 135.907 and has not been convicted of violating ORS 475.864 (3);
(m) Is not subject to a citation issued under ORS 163.735 or an order issued under ORS 30.866, 107.700 to 107.735 or 163.738;
(n) Has not received a dishonorable discharge from the Armed Forces of the United States; and
(o) Is not required to register as a sex offender in any state.
(2) A person who has been granted relief under ORS 166.274 or 166.293 or 18 U.S.C. 925(c) or has had the person’s record expunged under the laws of this state or equivalent laws of other jurisdictions is not subject to the disabilities in subsection (1)(g) to (L) of this section.
(3) Before the sheriff may issue a license:
(a) The application must state the applicant’s legal name, current address and telephone number, date and place of birth, hair and eye color and height and weight. The application must also list the applicant’s residence address or addresses for the previous three years. The application must contain a statement by the applicant that the applicant meets the requirements of subsection (1) of this section. The application may include the Social Security number of the applicant if the applicant voluntarily provides this number. The application must be signed by the applicant.
(b) The applicant must submit to fingerprinting and photographing by the sheriff. The sheriff shall fingerprint and photograph the applicant and shall conduct any investigation necessary to corroborate the requirements listed under subsection (1) of this section. If a nationwide criminal records check is necessary, the sheriff shall request the Department of State Police to conduct the check, including fingerprint identification, through the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Federal Bureau of Investigation shall return the fingerprint cards used to conduct the criminal records check and may not keep any record of the fingerprints. The Department of State Police shall report the results of the fingerprint-based criminal records check to the sheriff. The Department of State Police shall also furnish the sheriff with any information about the applicant that the Department of State Police may have in its possession including, but not limited to, manual or computerized criminal offender information.
(4) Application forms for concealed handgun licenses shall be supplied by the sheriff upon request. The forms shall be uniform throughout this state in substantially the following form:
______________________________________________________________________________

APPLICATION FOR LICENSE TO CARRY:LEND CONCEALED HANDGUN

Date________
I hereby declare as follows:
I am a citizen of the United States or a legal resident alien who can document continuous residency in the county for at least six months and have declared in writing to the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services my intention to become a citizen and can present proof of the written declaration to the sheriff at the time of this application. I am at least 21 years of age. I have been discharged from the jurisdiction of the juvenile court for more than four years if, while a minor, I was found to be within the jurisdiction of the juvenile court for having committed an act that, if committed by an adult, would constitute a felony or a misdemeanor involving violence, as defined in ORS 166.470. I have never been convicted of a felony or found guilty, except for insanity under ORS 161.295, of a felony in the State of Oregon or elsewhere. I have not, within the last four years, been convicted of a misdemeanor or found guilty, except for insanity under ORS 161.295, of a misdemeanor. Except as provided in ORS 166.291 (1)(L), I have not been convicted of an offense involving controlled substances or completed a court-supervised drug diversion program. There are no outstanding warrants for my arrest and I am not free on any form of pretrial release. I have not been committed to the Oregon Health Authority under ORS 426.130, nor have I been found mentally ill and presently subject to an order prohibiting me from purchasing or possessing a firearm because of mental illness. If any of the previous conditions do apply to me, I have been granted relief or wish to petition for relief from the disability under ORS 166.274 or 166.293 or 18 U.S.C. 925(c) or have had the records expunged. I am not subject to a citation issued under ORS 163.735 or an order issued under ORS 30.866, 107.700 to 107.735 or 163.738. I have never received a dishonorable discharge from the Armed Forces of the United States. I am not required to register as a sex offender in any state. I understand I will be fingerprinted and photographed.

Legal name ____________
Age ______ Date of birth ________
Place of birth ____________
Social Security number ___________
(Disclosure of your Social Security account number is voluntary. Solicitation of the number is authorized under ORS 166.291. It will be used only as a means of identification.)

Proof of identification (Two pieces of current identification are required, one of which must bear a photograph of the applicant. The type of identification and the number on the identification are to be filled in by the sheriff.):
1.____________
2.____________

Height _____ Weight _____
Hair color _____ Eye color _____

Current address _________________________________________________
(List residence addresses for the past three years on the back.)

City _____ County _____ Zip _____
Phone _____

I have read the entire text of this application, and the statements therein are correct and true. (Making false statements on this application is a misdemeanor.)
_______________
(Signature of Applicant)
Character references.
___________________________
Name: Address
___________________________
Name: Address

Approved ___ Disapproved ___ by ___

Competence with handgun demonstrated by _____ (to be filled in by sheriff)
Date _____ Fee Paid _____
License No. _____
______________________________________________________________________________

[duckkillerclyde]

Notice the "NO COMPROMISE" part....that's why I like OFF.

[duckkillerclyde]

Maybe you should start a similar program JLO

[Olly]

Open carry isn't legal in TX. Clyde you're slipping.

When did I say open carry was illegal?


You're tripping Olly.

You asked why he didn't open carry. He lives I am Texas, and he can't. Your troll skills are weak today.

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[Goldfish]

Montanafowler when he open carries

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Hey Barney, you forgot your bullets

[3legged_lab]

Open carry isn't legal in TX. Clyde you're slipping.

http://www.opencarry.org/opencarry.html

http://www.opencarry.org/tx.html

Also, If you have a concealed carry license you can't open carry at all. Once your licensed to conceal you have to keep it concealed even if you move to an open carry state.

I seriously doubt your state laws carry over to other states

@Whiskey duck, I don't know about where you are but here the CC license is issued by the Sheriff of the county you are in, my Sheriff's approval doesnt carry over to another state.

[Redbeard]

Open carry isn't legal in TX. Clyde you're slipping.

http://www.opencarry.org/opencarry.html

http://www.opencarry.org/tx.html

Also, If you have a concealed carry license you can't open carry at all. Once your licensed to conceal you have to keep it concealed even if you move to an open carry state.

I seriously doubt your state laws carry over to other states

@Whiskey duck, I don't know about where you are but here the CC license is issued by the Sheriff of the county you are in, my Sheriff's approval doesnt carry over to another state.

and your sheriff will not accept his CC

[3legged_lab]

Right, unless its from one of the states that is reciprocal. I think OR, Idaho and Utah are, dont know if any others are reciprocal with OR. I have been told CA isnt with anybody. I heard even an off-duty cop isnt allowed to CC in Cal, but was told in OR a cop doesnt need a permit.

[Redbeard]

Right, unless its from one of the states that is reciprocal. I think OR, Idaho and Utah are, dont know if any others are reciprocal with OR. I have been told CA isnt with anybody. I heard even an off-duty cop isnt allowed to CC in Cal, but was told in OR a cop doesnt need a permit.

off duty cops in CA can carry without a permit. And since 9-11 all off duty cops can carry across all state lines

[duckkillerclyde]

Right, unless its from one of the states that is reciprocal. I think OR, Idaho and Utah are, dont know if any others are reciprocal with OR. I have been told CA isnt with anybody. I heard even an off-duty cop isnt allowed to CC in Cal, but was told in OR a cop doesnt need a permit.

This is for OR resident CHL






Permit Honored:
Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont
Permit Not Honored:
Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, District of Columbia

[duckkillerclyde]

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry ... _maps.html

[3legged_lab]

Right, unless its from one of the states that is reciprocal. I think OR, Idaho and Utah are, dont know if any others are reciprocal with OR. I have been told CA isnt with anybody. I heard even an off-duty cop isnt allowed to CC in Cal, but was told in OR a cop doesnt need a permit.

off duty cops in CA can carry without a permit. And since 9-11 all off duty cops can carry across all state lines

Either they changed it since I took my class or was misinformed. Both are possible.

[Redbeard]

Right, unless its from one of the states that is reciprocal. I think OR, Idaho and Utah are, dont know if any others are reciprocal with OR. I have been told CA isnt with anybody. I heard even an off-duty cop isnt allowed to CC in Cal, but was told in OR a cop doesnt need a permit.

off duty cops in CA can carry without a permit. And since 9-11 all off duty cops can carry across all state lines

Either they changed it since I took my class or was misinformed. Both are possible.

three years ago I deer hunted in OR. Checked with your state police. They said I was good to go

[3legged_lab]

Ya, but we all know you cant trust a cop's interpretation of the law.

[Redbeard]

Ya, but we all know you cant trust a warden's interpretation of the law.

FIFY

[QH's Paw]

Clyde, your map is misleading. There is no permit required to CC in the great state of WY, where common since and American individual rights still prevail. Therefore, you can CC in WY.

[Olly]

Clyde, your map is misleading. There is no permit required to CC in the great state of WY, where common since and American individual rights still prevail. Therefore, you can CC in WY.

Just because you don't need a permit doesn't mean you can't get a WY CC permit.

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[3legged_lab]

Clyde, your map is misleading. There is no permit required to CC in the great state of WY, where common since and American individual rights still prevail. Therefore, you can CC in WY.

Same with AK, but it still tells you where you are legal if you are getting ready to travel.

[duckkillerclyde]

Clyde, your map is misleading. There is no permit required to CC in the great state of WY, where common since and American individual rights still prevail. Therefore, you can CC in WY.

as the text on the website reads

Wyoming Alaska, Arizona and Vermont in allowing residents to carry concealed guns without a permit.


I am not a resident or WY, AZ, AK or VT.

[duckkillerclyde]

http://www.handgunlaw.us 1
Wyoming
Shall Issue Must Inform Officer by Law: NO
(See Must Inform Section Below)
Permits/Licenses This State Honors
Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas Colorado Florida Georgia Idaho Indiana Iowa Kentucky Louisiana Maine Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Montana Missouri Nebraska New Hampshire North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Pennsylvania South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Virginia West Virginia
Wyoming Honors Non-Resident Permits/Licenses of the states they honor. Constitutional Carry
Starting July 1, 2011 residents of Wyoming who meet the below listed requirements can carry a concealed handgun anywhere in the state that a person who obtains a Wyoming Concealed Firearms Permit can carry. They do not have to obtain any type of permit/license from the state to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights. This law only applies to legal residents of Wyoming. All non residents must have a permit/license that Wyoming honors to carry in Wyoming.
From Wyoming Statute 6-8-104
(i) Is a resident of the United States and has been a resident of Wyoming for not less than six (6) months prior to filing the application. The Wyoming residency requirements of this paragraph do not apply to any person who holds a valid permit authorizing him to carry a concealed firearm authorized and issued by a governmental agency or entity in another state that recognizes Wyoming permits and is a valid statewide permit;
(ii) Is at least twenty-one (21) years of age;

[Olly]

All the states that are doing "Vermont Carry" still issue CCW permits. The reason they do it is so their residents can carry in states that have reciprocity with them. I have the forms to get a AK, AZ CCW permits even though neither require it them to conceal in that state. The reason is not every state honors my GA CPL so with that combo (GA,AK,AZ,FL) I'll be able to carry in every state that allows non-residents to carry.

[duckkillerclyde]

All the states that are doing "Vermont Carry" still issue CCW permits. The reason they do it is so their residents can carry in states that have reciprocity with them. I have the forms to get a AK, AZ CCW permits even though neither require it them to conceal in that state. The reason is not every state honors my GA CPL so with that combo (GA,AK,AZ,FL) I'll be able to carry in every state that allows non-residents to carry.

You sure about that?

OR licenses non-residents and ONLY recognizes and OR license.

[huntntech]

Right, unless its from one of the states that is reciprocal. I think OR, Idaho and Utah are, dont know if any others are reciprocal with OR. I have been told CA isnt with anybody. I heard even an off-duty cop isnt allowed to CC in Cal, but was told in OR a cop doesnt need a permit.

This is for OR resident CHL






Permit Honored:
Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont
Permit Not Honored:
Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, District of Columbia

Glad to see I live in the only state where our "rights are denied" I didn't realize IL was the only one like that..

[Eric Haynes]

Thank Chicago for that one!

I'm suprised NYC hasn't completely ruined us yet.

[DeadEye_Dan]

what is this "words with friends"?

do it Jim. Download the app to your iPhone. It's just like scrabble. I'm addicted to it.

On my way. I love Scrabble.

DON'T DO IT-IT'S A TRAP!!!!


RED'S A BEAST!!

[QH's Paw]

Clyde, your map is misleading. There is no permit required to CC in the great state of WY, where common since and American individual rights still prevail. Therefore, you can CC in WY.

as the text on the website reads

Wyoming Alaska, Arizona and Vermont in allowing residents to carry concealed guns without a permit.


I am not a resident or WY, AZ, AK or VT.

I'll have to check into it better then. The cop I spoke with did not mention anything about residency being required. I asked because I'm considering carrying when hunting some areas that might have a possibility of Grizzly encounters. I may have to consider open carry. He knew I was from Oregon. He's checked me more than once in the area I shoot Goldeneye.