real talk no gimmicks

[Mornin Beef]

Slap da bitcch and tell her to get real!
Like jehler said..those folks have been living likr that for tens of thousands of years and didnt know they were poor and unhappy until SOMEONE TOLD THEM they were poor and unhappy.

she would say the U.S. and cooperating asian govts have been increasing the abuse over a short period of time.

[Mornin Beef]

i agree, you're a realist. The planet wasn't meant to hold this many people, we've far exceeded our carrying capacity based on resource availability. Agroecology is trying to develop better methods to grow food, they may or may not work. but do you think that people who shit in their own drinking water will ever actually use sustainable systems? we, the western world, give that technology away to those people.


we're not going to be able to feed everyone.

no, i do believe if she went to africa and handed out malaria nets the people would turn on her. i just dont know exactly how to tell her those people are heathens in the right circumstance. you must have heard of the epidemic of gang rape in india lately, and i cant imagine being anywhere near a tribal civil war breaking out in africa.

[Mornin Beef]

I"m in the same boat as you Beef. Nothing you can do will change the way it is or their society. Once she's home long enough and eats enohg Big Mac's she;ll slide back into the right way of thinking.

she would puke at the sight of a big mac.

[Mornin Beef]

They can't solve their oppression, not without exodus.

It just comes down to geography and pedology. The course of human history, the rise and fall of empires, the haves and have-nots, has always been determined by soil type. Think American spirit and ingenuity made everything you see in this country possible? Wrong, everyone has that spirit and ingenuity, they are limited by whats in their soil. It determines attainable standard of living and what type of government is likely to form in a region.

Have you hugged an Mollisol today?

Jehler killed it, those people know more abut living than we could ever dream.

ive read jared diamonds bolognese and now ive read your squirrelly soil idea now too. hunter gatherers roamed all over awesome soil for thousands of years in north ameericas bread basket and it did not inspire the ingenuity at a level of other populations. certain groups of people are just more genetically adapt at creating a cumulative tradition. Thats a genetic disposition and just as important as the land your sitting on. not every population has gone through the same genetic bottlenecks.

[Mornin Beef]

I implore you, Beef, remember the Theory of Medium™ as you have this discussion with her.

in what way?

[jehler]

I'm sensing a gimmick

[assateague]

I implore you, Beef, remember the Theory of Medium[TRADE MARK SIGN] as you have this discussion with her.

in what way?

You agree to help out half as much as she wants you to in order to keep her happy. Or you don't tell her you think it's stupid.

[Feelin' Fowl]

Tell her she needs to stop trying to push her western ideal of "success and happiness" on people that are living and smiling the same way they have been for years, and that we are the ones that could learn from them instead of living in our instant gratification lifestyle... Hat will buy you some time

she said she witnessed deplorable conditions and witnessed no such happiness. she was very mad about american companies utilizing their poor folk for gain. she was telling me all these ways to ensure the products she buys are not produced from these ways. she wishes to try and offset these abuses with acts with everything she can do.

Would their poor folk be better off without the jobs that are created for American gain? Maybe Obama can get them set up with EBT cards after they don't have jobs at all.

[Mornin Beef]

I'm sensing a gimmick

its real talk

[Mornin Beef]

Tell her she needs to stop trying to push her western ideal of "success and happiness" on people that are living and smiling the same way they have been for years, and that we are the ones that could learn from them instead of living in our instant gratification lifestyle... Hat will buy you some time

she said she witnessed deplorable conditions and witnessed no such happiness. she was very mad about american companies utilizing their poor folk for gain. she was telling me all these ways to ensure the products she buys are not produced from these ways. she wishes to try and offset these abuses with acts with everything she can do.

Would their poor folk be better off without the jobs that are created for American gain? Maybe Obama can get them set up with EBT cards after they don't have jobs at all.

she thinks the migration from their countryside to these factories is bad. everyone else here is saying basically the same thing.

[Mornin Beef]

I implore you, Beef, remember the Theory of Medium[TRADE MARK SIGN] as you have this discussion with her.

in what way?

You agree to help out half as much as she wants you to in order to keep her happy. Or you don't tell her you think it's stupid.

are you sure? wouldnt it be support her efforts or kick her in the ass outta here?

[assateague]

Unless you're kidding yourself, that's exactly what it's gonna be.

[Mornin Beef]

Unless you're kidding yourself, that's exactly what it's gonna be.

[Redbeard]

Tell her she needs to stop trying to push her western ideal of "success and happiness" on people that are living and smiling the same way they have been for years, and that we are the ones that could learn from them instead of living in our instant gratification lifestyle... Hat will buy you some time

she said she witnessed deplorable conditions and witnessed no such happiness. she was very mad about american companies utilizing their poor folk for gain. she was telling me all these ways to ensure the products she buys are not produced from these ways. she wishes to try and offset these abuses with acts with everything she can do.

kiss your Nikes goodbye

[Mornin Beef]

Tell her she needs to stop trying to push her western ideal of "success and happiness" on people that are living and smiling the same way they have been for years, and that we are the ones that could learn from them instead of living in our instant gratification lifestyle... Hat will buy you some time

she said she witnessed deplorable conditions and witnessed no such happiness. she was very mad about american companies utilizing their poor folk for gain. she was telling me all these ways to ensure the products she buys are not produced from these ways. she wishes to try and offset these abuses with acts with everything she can do.

kiss your Nikes goodbye

yup.

[Eric Haynes]

I'm sensing a gimmick

its real talk

If it's real talk then you better marry her. She will be in the clouds thinking of the dumbest shit instead of pestering you to do real world things.

[Mornin Beef]

I'm sensing a gimmick

its real talk

If it's real talk then you better marry her. She will be in the clouds thinking of the dumbest shit instead of pestering you to do real world things.

she can float around in the clouds all she wants for now.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

I'm sensing a gimmick

its real talk

If it's real talk then you better marry her. She will be in the clouds thinking of the dumbest shit instead of pestering you to do real world things.

she can float around in the clouds all she wants for now.

this type of woman is exactly the predisposition for Class 5 clinger material. watch yourself, they go from zero to batshit like a mazarati.

[3legged_lab]

i agree, you're a realist. The planet wasn't meant to hold this many people, we've far exceeded our carrying capacity based on resource availability. Agroecology is trying to develop better methods to grow food, they may or may not work. but do you think that people who shit in their own drinking water will ever actually use sustainable systems? we, the western world, give that technology away to those people.


we're not going to be able to feed everyone.

Was that a sneak peak at your next term paper?

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Was that a sneak peak at your next term paper?

i don't have to write term papers, so nope.

[bill herian]

ive read jared diamonds bolognese and now ive read your squirrelly soil idea now too. hunter gatherers roamed all over awesome soil for thousands of years in north ameericas bread basket and it did not inspire the ingenuity at a level of other populations. certain groups of people are just more genetically adapt at creating a cumulative tradition. Thats a genetic disposition and just as important as the land your sitting on. not every population has gone through the same genetic bottlenecks.

That's legit.

Perhaps went a little overboard when I said "everyone has that ingenuity". People who can't figure it out, are just that. Soil just set the boundaries.

I think I watched the first episode of the Natgeo thing they did on Jared Diamonds bologsese, is it worth reading?

[Mornin Beef]

ive read jared diamonds bolognese and now ive read your squirrelly soil idea now too. hunter gatherers roamed all over awesome soil for thousands of years in north ameericas bread basket and it did not inspire the ingenuity at a level of other populations. certain groups of people are just more genetically adapt at creating a cumulative tradition. Thats a genetic disposition and just as important as the land your sitting on. not every population has gone through the same genetic bottlenecks.

That's legit.

Perhaps went a little overboard when I said "everyone has that ingenuity". People who can't figure it out, are just that. Soil just set the boundaries.

I think I watched the first episode of the Natgeo thing they did on Jared Diamonds bologsese, is it worth reading?

I read it a long time ago. I just remember it essentially being a nice theory every homo sapien population was created equel and the spot on the earth that they resided dictated their success. Kind of a nice let's everyone hold hands and realize its all luck if you have more than the next person. Diamond is a prof in california if I remember correctly. The title had the words guns and steel in it so I thought cool must be a decent read, wrong, hippie garbage.

[Mornin Beef]

I'm sensing a gimmick

its real talk

If it's real talk then you better marry her. She will be in the clouds thinking of the dumbest shit instead of pestering you to do real world things.

she can float around in the clouds all she wants for now.

this type of woman is exactly the predisposition for Class 5 clinger material. watch yourself, they go from zero to batshit like a mazarati.

I am taking this observation seriously mt. I will be watching for further signs ty.

[Mornin Beef]

Unless you're kidding yourself, that's exactly what it's gonna be.

It could go the other way though too. I'm a stronger personality than her and she may fold. That's why I'm looking for talking pts from the brain trust here.

[jehler]

[quote="jehler"]I'm sensing a gimmick

its real talk

If it's real talk then you better marry her. She will be in the clouds thinking of the dumbest shit instead of pestering you to do real world things.

she can float around in the clouds all she wants for now.

this type of woman is exactly the predisposition for Class 5 clinger material. watch yourself, they go from zero to batshit like a mazarati.

I am taking this observation seriously mt. I will be watching for further signs ty.[/quote]idaho, I'd like to see your resume before I listen to anything you have to say about women

[RonE]

It is truly amazing how wealthy we citizens of the USA are. Where else can someone worry about the plight of third world people and ignore the problems we have in our inner cities? What is the mindset of someone like that? Is it perhaps that our low expedition citizens brought the situation upon themselves so screw them but those people who do not have our social welfare system need our help?

Isn't it fortunate that we seem to be able worry about others and not have to worry as they do about feeding ourselves?

Beef - You must think this lady is worth something (looks, intelligence, sex, money or a combination of things) to go through this agonizing decision process of what to do and how to handle it. Ask her if she voted for or supported Obama and if she did, drop her like a hot potato.

[jehler]

I care more about some poor kid in the third world then anybody in our cities. Screw taking care of our own, the poor here have every chance in the world...

[jehler]

For the record cities scare the shit out of me

[jehler]

I'm 98% sure that big robot spiders live under overpasses in the city and eat you and assimilate your vehicle if you break down

[Woody]

I'm 98% sure that big robot spiders live under overpasses in the city and eat you and assimilate your vehicle if you break down

They are invisible, so you can’t see them.