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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby The Duck Hammer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:56 pm

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sure ya can. But you can also spend as much for a little rod and reel as you would for a Matthews

i agree with Red. realistically, how much better are the ones you spend a million dollars on?


Have you priced long/recurves lately? You can get a decent compound for about the same. Parallel limbs are outrageously priced though.



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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:59 pm

did red actually post something? i just see a ghost quote with his sig.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby Redbeard » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:00 pm

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sure ya can. But you can also spend as much for a little rod and reel as you would for a Matthews

i agree with Red. realistically, how much better are the ones you spend a million dollars on?


Have you priced long/recurves lately? You can get a decent compound for about the same. Parallel limbs are outrageously priced though.



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That's even dumber.
my bad


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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby Redbeard » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:01 pm

Obviously my personal preference but I alway enjoyed shooting a recurve much more than a compound. It's so simple. No tweaking. No adjusting. Just shoot


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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby Redbeard » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:01 pm

That said I've never hunted with a bow of any kind either


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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby The Duck Hammer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:04 pm

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:did red actually post something? i just see a ghost quote with his sig.

Yep, its up there in your quoted section of the conversation.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby The Duck Hammer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:06 pm

Redbeard wrote:That said I've never hunted with a bow of any kind either


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Its one of the most frustrating and exciting things when it comes to deer hunting.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby Redbeard » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:08 pm

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Redbeard wrote:That said I've never hunted with a bow of any kind either


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Its one of the most frustrating and exciting things when it comes to deer hunting.
I have no doubt


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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:10 pm

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Redbeard wrote:That said I've never hunted with a bow of any kind either


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Its one of the most frustrating and exciting things when it comes to deer hunting.


must be weird hunting from a stand. out here you walk around and wait for one to bust out from a rose bush or something. most deer i see are 10 yards and hauling ass.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby jmitch » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:12 pm

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jmitch wrote:isn't that the name of the game. Be as accurate and ethical as possible? Not saying you need a brand new bow every year but why not want something that an average person can shoot pretty Damn well? I could give a shit what somebody shoots as long as they can make a good kill.


isn't the bowhunting mentality the epitome of traditional hunting? shouldn't a bowhunter have developed the discipline to take ethical shots, or should he just adopt technology to kill anything?

if it's the latter, he should just use a gun, or a fucking laser beam bow.

Did I say anything about unethical shots? Or a fucking laser beam bow? All I'm saying is that a 25 yard shot is easier to make with a compound than a recurve. Never said you shouldn't hunt with a recurve.

Why is a recurve acceptable technology? Why not spears? Or rocks only? Wouldn't that also be tradional?
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby ManlyMan » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:15 pm

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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby assateague » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:16 pm

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jmitch wrote:isn't that the name of the game. Be as accurate and ethical as possible? Not saying you need a brand new bow every year but why not want something that an average person can shoot pretty Damn well? I could give a shit what somebody shoots as long as they can make a good kill.


isn't the bowhunting mentality the epitome of traditional hunting? shouldn't a bowhunter have developed the discipline to take ethical shots, or should he just adopt technology to kill anything?

if it's the latter, he should just use a gun, or a fucking laser beam bow.


If you're worried about ethical, you damn sure shouldn't be hunting with a recurve.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby ManlyMan » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:17 pm

assateague wrote:Doc, how many deer have you shot with your bow? I don't think it's worn out, yet.
umm do you see that thing? I could shoot a deer no look, scrubbed in the OR. I'm salivating thinking about it. Although I will admit 1400 is a retarded amount for a bow.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby The Duck Hammer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:17 pm

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Redbeard wrote:That said I've never hunted with a bow of any kind either


#tazincali


Its one of the most frustrating and exciting things when it comes to deer hunting.


must be weird hunting from a stand. out here you walk around and wait for one to bust out from a rose bush or something. most deer i see are 10 yards and hauling ass.


It gets to be boring as shit until you see something. That's the only way I've ever done it up here. I did try stalking on a state game refuge about five years ago. All we got close enough to shoot was a hog and we didn't want to haul his ass out.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby The Duck Hammer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:18 pm

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We are talking about Doc here. I believe the correct statement would be the lowered silver Toyota Prius is sold separately.
you leave the Prius out of this. I'll defend it to the grave. Drove like 1600 miles round trip in that badboy. It's a gas sippin badass.


Exactly the reply I was hoping for. :lol:
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:23 pm

jmitch wrote:Did I say anything about unethical shots? Or a fucking laser beam bow? All I'm saying is that a 25 yard shot is easier to make with a compound than a recurve. Never said you shouldn't hunt with a recurve.

Why is a recurve acceptable technology? Why not spears? Or rocks only? Wouldn't that also be tradional?


i'm just arguing diminishing returns. you spend 500 bucks for something that is only a tiny bit better than something that has been around for millennia.

i'm not trying to start a war, i'm just trying to figure out why the 5 million dollar bow is better and how you quantify it.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:27 pm

assateague wrote:If you're worried about ethical, you damn sure shouldn't be hunting with a recurve.



i'm not talking ethical shooting. i'm saying that you bowhunt to get close to the animal, using the skills you developed and honed over time. it's man versus beast. it seems to me that with the 5 million dollar bow, you take away that personal connection and cheapen the experience.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:55 pm

The Duck Hammer wrote:
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Redbeard wrote:That said I've never hunted with a bow of any kind either


#tazincali


Its one of the most frustrating and exciting things when it comes to deer hunting.


must be weird hunting from a stand. out here you walk around and wait for one to bust out from a rose bush or something. most deer i see are 10 yards and hauling ass.


It gets to be boring as shit until you see something. That's the only way I've ever done it up here. I did try stalking on a state game refuge about five years ago. All we got close enough to shoot was a hog and we didn't want to haul his ass out.


for reasons unknown, i have pretty good luck running into deer. i'm not teepee creeping either, just walking around. maybe our deer are dumb.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby aunt betty » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:56 pm

Quack.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby Woody » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:06 pm

Redbeard wrote:This is a bow
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I am picturing Red (dressed like he is in his avatar) hunting something in Africa with that bow, and it is cracking my shit up!
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby aunt betty » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:10 pm

Woody wrote:
Redbeard wrote:This is a bow
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#tazincali


I am picturing Red (dressed like he is in his avatar) hunting something in Africa with that bow, and it is cracking my shit up!

Picture AT going after his chicken hawk with flaming arrows.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:14 pm

aunt betty wrote:Picture AT going after his chicken hawk with flaming arrows.


don't need to imagine it, i'm waiting for the video to be posted up when he gets it :lol:
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby 3legged_lab » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:47 pm

The Duck Hammer wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:
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Redbeard wrote:This is a bow
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1383584923.029438.jpg



#tazincali


i agree with Red. realistically, how much better are the ones you spend a million dollars on?

I will gladly lay some money on a bet that I am more accurate with my mathews than you could ever be with a recurve.


Can you do it without a site though?

Fuck no. That's the point of modern equipment - to be better than an antiquated technology, ie killing animals by throwing rocks at them.
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Redbeard wrote:This is a bow
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#tazincali


i agree with Red. realistically, how much better are the ones you spend a million dollars on?

I will gladly lay some money on a bet that I am more accurate with my mathews than you could ever be with a recurve.


so, people buy these fancy bows strictly for accuracy?

give your definition of accuracy.

you need your reticle for accuracy, i think most recurve shooters do it without one.

I think the definition of accuracy is pretty universal, and I don't think you need my help with understanding.

I don't use a reticle, if you're referring to magnification, but I do use pins for yardage which takes us back to accuracy.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby The Duck Hammer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:34 pm

3legged_lab wrote:
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3legged_lab wrote:
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Redbeard wrote:This is a bow
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1383584923.029438.jpg



#tazincali


i agree with Red. realistically, how much better are the ones you spend a million dollars on?

I will gladly lay some money on a bet that I am more accurate with my mathews than you could ever be with a recurve.


Can you do it without a site though?

Fuck no. That's the point of modern equipment - to be better than an antiquated technology, ie killing animals by throwing rocks at them.


I've watched Ted Nugent do it on the TV.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby jmitch » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:51 pm

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:
jmitch wrote:Did I say anything about unethical shots? Or a fucking laser beam bow? All I'm saying is that a 25 yard shot is easier to make with a compound than a recurve. Never said you shouldn't hunt with a recurve.

Why is a recurve acceptable technology? Why not spears? Or rocks only? Wouldn't that also be tradional?


i'm just arguing diminishing returns. you spend 500 bucks for something that is only a tiny bit better than something that has been around for millennia.
i'm not trying to start a war, i'm just trying to figure out why the 5 million dollar bow is better and how you quantify it.

In your opinion a compound is only a tiny bit better not mine. I've shot a little traditional and there is a big difference to me. And I don't have to justify a 5 million dollar bow because I don't have one. Shit my bow is outdated compared to what's on shelves now. All I've been saying all along is that a compound gives you the greatest chance for a clean kill. And that's more important to me than the experience of tradition archery.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby rozzo842 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:26 pm

Must not have been the latest and greatest bow

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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby The Duck Hammer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:39 pm

For some reason I laughed at that. It's really not funny.
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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby Redbeard » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:40 pm

Woody wrote:
Redbeard wrote:This is a bow
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#tazincali


I am picturing Red (dressed like he is in his avatar) hunting something in Africa with that bow, and it is cracking my shit up!
I'd hunt water buffalo with that little bear cub


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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby Redbeard » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:41 pm

Redbeard wrote:
Woody wrote:
Redbeard wrote:This is a bow
Image


#tazincali


I am picturing Red (dressed like he is in his avatar) hunting something in Africa with that bow, and it is cracking my shit up!
I'd hunt water buffalo with that little bear cub


#tazincali
but that wouldnt be ethical


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Re: New 2014 Bows

Postby The Duck Hammer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:43 pm

Having a conversation with yourself there Red?
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