Duck Stamp increase

[aunt betty]

I like going thru the line several times to get a Stack of little license papers. GW's love it when I hand them the stack, say figure out what u need, but DONT lose anything!!!

I get my stamp(s) separate. Habitat and waterfowl...hip separate.

I hate going through the whole process and its with some girl who obviously hates hunting. Making her unhappy makes me HAPPY!

[aunt betty]

Its gotten ridiculous the amount of paperwork bullshit we have to do. Feed info into the "mill" that never gets analyzed or shared back...Pisses me off.

That's all the papers I must carry to be legal everywhere I go.
PAPERLESS SOCIETY!!!
Hello?

[aunt betty]

Oh, FF. That's my Shelbyville and Clinton window permits that never got sent in. Fuck them! If they want to ban me a year, fine. I just won't buy a license and stamps...they are punishing themselves by banning hunters who PAY their bills...over a piece of paper that I lie about on...I always say I didn't shoot anything last year.

[aunt betty]

While on subject of stamps. ..
Does anyone have any pheasant stamps? I have a feeling they are super rare. Only used for two seasons.

[aunt betty]

Wow. Oldest one I have.

[assateague]

Its gotten ridiculous the amount of paperwork bullshit we have to do. Feed info into the "mill" that never gets analyzed or shared back...Pisses me off.

That's all the papers I must carry to be legal everywhere I go.
PAPERLESS SOCIETY!!!
Hello?

Pretty sure I've got you beat, when you throw in my crop damage tags, National Park permits, and nuisance control permits, but it's close. It's insane.

[NuffDaddy]

I have 4 little purple stickers that all fold up into a pocket the size of a credit card. That gets me everything for hunting and fishing in MI.

[aunt betty]

As you can see my 1978 license was tiny. They got bigger and bigger until '93 or so when they went to the computer printed ones. Fucked up my stamp collection when they quit issuing actual stamps. Why even have the stupid art contest? Law I guess.

[FlintRiverFowler]

Wow. Oldest one I have.

Damn Betty, you're a midget.
You looked tall on the news.

[FlintRiverFowler]

Wow. Oldest one I have.

Damn Betty, you're a midget.
You looked tall on the news.

Oh I see you were 16. I was probly around that height at 16 too.

[aunt betty]

Wow. Oldest one I have.

Damn Betty, you're a midget.
You looked tall on the news.

Oh I see you were 16. I was probly around that height at 16 too.

I'm up to 66.5" now. I think jehler is taller than me by a little bit.
Huntal6 and I are about identical size but I was way cuter...

[jehler]

Wow. Oldest one I have.

Damn Betty, you're a midget.
You looked tall on the news.

Oh I see you were 16. I was probly around that height at 16 too.

betty is taller than Olly...
50/50

[FlintRiverFowler]

Do all states have lifetime sportsman licenses? Covers everything except alligator and duck stamp here. Costs 500 bucks. Or 200 bucks if its for a child under age 3.
You can also buy the yearly sportsman license for 65 bucks per year.

[aunt betty]

Wow. Oldest one I have.

Damn Betty, you're a midget.
You looked tall on the news.

Oh I see you were 16. I was probly around that height at 16 too.

betty is taller than Olly...
50/50

Yeah. If I stand on the fender of my boat trailer.

[QH's Paw]

That is ridiculous.
I would say we could get all hunters to boycott it this year, but that's not gonna happen. It's like crack. Ill pay whatever to get my duck hunting high, and so will all of you.
Imagine how good the duck numbers would be though if every duck hunter took the season off for just one year.

You wouldn't even notice a difference in duck numbers if every hunter took off next year. We're a drop in the bucket, statistically speaking.

My intent is to start a huge debacle... I mean debate here.
. In 2009, a population survey by the U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife showed an increase in canvasbacks from 488,000 to 662,000, after a hunting ban on the birds during the 2008-'09 waterfowl season.
So that's like what? A 36 percent increase? From one closed season.

If you really believe that statement, please explain the outcome of the following population trends.

http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/Newre ... _final.pdf

Specifically, explain how hunting caused, created or impacted all of the high and low points in these population reports. I think if you study the report closely, you will see a shadowing of sorts, with other species in the same year you are using as your example and, there were no limitation or closure, outside if usual annual restrictions for the other species.
My suspicion is that you might find a weather event or pattern that caused a decline in breeding.
The 2 most limiting or effectual factors on bird number is, have and, always will be weather and habitat or, possibly lack of habitat.

[aunt betty]

That is ridiculous.
I would say we could get all hunters to boycott it this year, but that's not gonna happen. It's like crack. Ill pay whatever to get my duck hunting high, and so will all of you.
Imagine how good the duck numbers would be though if every duck hunter took the season off for just one year.

You wouldn't even notice a difference in duck numbers if every hunter took off next year. We're a drop in the bucket, statistically speaking.

My intent is to start a huge debacle... I mean debate here.
. In 2009, a population survey by the U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife showed an increase in canvasbacks from 488,000 to 662,000, after a hunting ban on the birds during the 2008-'09 waterfowl season.
So that's like what? A 36 percent increase? From one closed season.

If you really believe that statement, please explain the outcome of the following population trends.

http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/Newre ... _final.pdf

Specifically, explain how hunting caused, created or impacted all of the high and low points in these population reports. I think if you study the report closely, you will see a shadowing of sorts, with other species in the same year you are using as your example and, there were no limitation or closure, outside if usual annual restrictions for the other species.
My suspicion is that you might find a weather event or pattern that caused a decline in breeding.
The 2 most limiting or effectual factors on bird number is, have and, always will be weather and habitat or, possibly lack of habitat.

Our methods of agriculture effect habitat and migration patterns. The BIGGEST factor IMO effecting waterfowl today is modern agriculture methods.

Take away diesel fuel and see what happens to waterfowl populations AND wetland acreage.

[aunt betty]

I meant "affect" woody the grammar Nazi.

[QH's Paw]

That is ridiculous.
I would say we could get all hunters to boycott it this year, but that's not gonna happen. It's like crack. Ill pay whatever to get my duck hunting high, and so will all of you.
Imagine how good the duck numbers would be though if every duck hunter took the season off for just one year.

You wouldn't even notice a difference in duck numbers if every hunter took off next year. We're a drop in the bucket, statistically speaking.

My intent is to start a huge debacle... I mean debate here.
. In 2009, a population survey by the U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife showed an increase in canvasbacks from 488,000 to 662,000, after a hunting ban on the birds during the 2008-'09 waterfowl season.
So that's like what? A 36 percent increase? From one closed season.

If you really believe that statement, please explain the outcome of the following population trends.

http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/Newre ... _final.pdf

Specifically, explain how hunting caused, created or impacted all of the high and low points in these population reports. I think if you study the report closely, you will see a shadowing of sorts, with other species in the same year you are using as your example and, there were no limitation or closure, outside if usual annual restrictions for the other species.
My suspicion is that you might find a weather event or pattern that caused a decline in breeding.
The 2 most limiting or effectual factors on bird number is, have and, always will be weather and habitat or, possibly lack of habitat.

Our methods of agriculture effect habitat and migration patterns. The BIGGEST factor IMO effecting waterfowl today is modern agriculture methods.

Take away diesel fuel and see what happens to waterfowl populations AND wetland acreage.

Like I said, habitat and weather. What changes the habitat well, that's a subset of the problem.

[QH's Paw]

If you want proof that hunters have little to no affect on bird population, just look at snowgeese. Unlimited limits and other unrestrictive regulation exceptions.

[aunt betty]

That is ridiculous.
I would say we could get all hunters to boycott it this year, but that's not gonna happen. It's like crack. Ill pay whatever to get my duck hunting high, and so will all of you.
Imagine how good the duck numbers would be though if every duck hunter took the season off for just one year.

You wouldn't even notice a difference in duck numbers if every hunter took off next year. We're a drop in the bucket, statistically speaking.

My intent is to start a huge debacle... I mean debate here.
. In 2009, a population survey by the U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife showed an increase in canvasbacks from 488,000 to 662,000, after a hunting ban on the birds during the 2008-'09 waterfowl season.
So that's like what? A 36 percent increase? From one closed season.

If you really believe that statement, please explain the outcome of the following population trends.

http://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/Newre ... _final.pdf

Specifically, explain how hunting caused, created or impacted all of the high and low points in these population reports. I think if you study the report closely, you will see a shadowing of sorts, with other species in the same year you are using as your example and, there were no limitation or closure, outside if usual annual restrictions for the other species.
My suspicion is that you might find a weather event or pattern that caused a decline in breeding.
The 2 most limiting or effectual factors on bird number is, have and, always will be weather and habitat or, possibly lack of habitat.

Our methods of agriculture effect habitat and migration patterns. The BIGGEST factor IMO effecting waterfowl today is modern agriculture methods.

Take away diesel fuel and see what happens to waterfowl populations AND wetland acreage.

Like I said, habitat and weather. What changes the habitat well, that's a subset of the problem.

As long as we have the power to change the course of rivers and move mountains...that affects wildlife more than anything else. (Imo)
If you had seen central Illinois transform from:
English style countryside dotted with farms and hedge rows to:
Plowed from road to road without a single tree or even a fence. Houses...gone. Barns...gone. Swept away like it never existed.

You'd understand why the whole migration is changing. WE have altered the landscape is why. Blaming it on hunters is agri-industry using us as scapegoats.

[QH's Paw]

How the habitat was changed wasn't my point, that's your point. It is still habitat change whether you unnaturally flood it, pave over it or till it under, you are affecting the habitat.

[aunt betty]

How the habitat was changed wasn't my point, that's your point. It is still habitat change whether you unnaturally flood it, pave over it or till it under, you are affecting the habitat.

Agreed. Lack and loss of habitat is why I no longer hunt pheasants and rabbits. My county was once a mecca of upland game.

They tore out the hedge rows. Deer moved in followed by coyotes and now the skunks hide in town so they don't get eaten by 'yotes.

But now we have shit tons of honkers. Gotta take the good with the bad.
I want to shoot a few more of these BAD.

[QH's Paw]

We don't really have any decent pheasant hunting here anymore either. Most of the pheasant here are put and take, pay to play type hunting.
A question about your state stamps, can you get the actual stamp on request? Here in Oregon, we can request to get the stamp and they send it to us(the actual stamp). Most people don't do it so the state basically get's to use more of the money for "whatever".

[aunt betty]

We don't really have any decent pheasant hunting here anymore either. Most of the pheasant here are put and take, pay to play type hunting.
A question about your state stamps, can you get the actual stamp on request? Here in Oregon, we can request to get the stamp and they send it to us(the actual stamp). Most people don't do it so the state basically get's to use more of the money for "whatever".

Yeah. You can buy a copy of the original artwork but not the stamp. The newest stamp is a photo.. You can buy a print off facebook.

[The Duck Hammer]

Do all states have lifetime sportsman licenses? Covers everything except alligator and duck stamp here. Costs 500 bucks. Or 200 bucks if its for a child under age 3.
You can also buy the yearly sportsman license for 65 bucks per year.

Texas lifetime is $2000 for hunting and fishing. Covers everything but a duck stamp.

[aunt betty]

Here's last year's duck stamp.
Here's mine.

[QH's Paw]

Do all states have lifetime sportsman licenses? Covers everything except alligator and duck stamp here. Costs 500 bucks. Or 200 bucks if its for a child under age 3.
You can also buy the yearly sportsman license for 65 bucks per year.

Texas lifetime is $2000 for hunting and fishing. Covers everything but a duck stamp.

No lifetime licenses in Oregon or Washington.

[FlintRiverFowler]

Here's last year's duck stamp.
Here's mine.

Holy hell Betty you only grew an inch since you were 16. I didn't remember that being last years duck stamp either. Thought it was a common golden eye.

[NuffDaddy]

Do all states have lifetime sportsman licenses? Covers everything except alligator and duck stamp here. Costs 500 bucks. Or 200 bucks if its for a child under age 3.
You can also buy the yearly sportsman license for 65 bucks per year.

Texas lifetime is $2000 for hunting and fishing. Covers everything but a duck stamp.

No lifetime licenses here anymore. Would be nice if they brought them back.

[The Duck Hammer]

I think that's the Illinois state duck stamp