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For those that live there/know better, does everybody who lives there burn pine because there's nothing else? Or do they have some sort of attachment to it? Watching this show on TV, everyone is cutting firewood, and I can't help but think that they wouldn't need 25 cords of wood to get through a winter if they'd burn something besides crap ass pine.

assateague wrote:For those that live there/know better, does everybody who lives there burn pine because there's nothing else? Or do they have some sort of attachment to it? Watching this show on TV, everyone is cutting firewood, and I can't help but think that they wouldn't need 25 cords of wood to get through a winter if they'd burn something besides crap ass pine.

We never burn pine in our woodstoves. We only burn birch in the woodstove.. We use Spruce trees for outside camp fires in the winter. What show was it?

I think it's called Yukon Men. I noticed it on some other show, too. I suppose I should have said spruce to be correct. But everybody is out there cutting wood for the winter, hauling around logs for splitting, and every damn thing they cut down, every woodpile they show is nothing but spruce. That's why, when the guy said he needed 25 cords to get through winter, I thought "no shit, you probably have to get up every 45 minutes to reload the stove, too". But I figured maybe that's all they have, even though I've never seen a forest which was 100% conifer. Every place has some hardwoods in it, if you try a little bit.

Lodgepole is the most common fire wood here.

Alaska has always fascinated me. I'm going to try and do at least one tour there while I'm in the CG, I'm afraid that if I do go up there I'll never come back

Same here. my neighbor the trapper spends two months every summer up there fishing for salmon and clamming. Likes it so much he bought a cabin there a few months ago. Bastard I'm jealous, and I've never even really spent a lot of time there.

3legged_lab wrote:Lodgepole is the most common fire wood here.

How do you all keep your chimneys from burning down?

assateague wrote:I think it's called Yukon Men. I noticed it on some other show, too. I suppose I should have said spruce to be correct. But everybody is out there cutting wood for the winter, hauling around logs for splitting, and every damn thing they cut down, every woodpile they show is nothing but spruce. That's why, when the guy said he needed 25 cords to get through winter, I thought "no shit, you probably have to get up every 45 minutes to reload the stove, too". But I figured maybe that's all they have, even though I've never seen a forest which was 100% conifer. Every place has some hardwoods in it, if you try a little bit.

I watched that show too. They use those burn barrels outside to heat their dog food up. Maybe that is what they use it for? Agree with you on the use of hardwoods. I don't know the BTU difference between spruce and birch, but you can tell the difference in the cabin temperature and consumption rate.

Olly wrote:Alaska has always fascinated me. I'm going to try and do at least one tour there while I'm in the CG, I'm afraid that if I do go up there I'll never come back

Kodiak would be a great place to get stationed!

AKPirate wrote:

Olly wrote:Alaska has always fascinated me. I'm going to try and do at least one tour there while I'm in the CG, I'm afraid that if I do go up there I'll never come back

Kodiak would be a great place to get stationed!

I've heard that a lot, but I don't know how I feel about living on an island. I like to go all over and explore.

What kind of birch do you have up there?

That just led me to Google this. Pretty interesting, actually, and surprising. The silver maple I burn apparently isn't worth much, although it certainly seems like it. And I can't believe how low black walnut and cherry are, after burning a bunch last year.

http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/howood.htm

Olly wrote:

AKPirate wrote:

Olly wrote:Alaska has always fascinated me. I'm going to try and do at least one tour there while I'm in the CG, I'm afraid that if I do go up there I'll never come back

Kodiak would be a great place to get stationed!

I've heard that a lot, but I don't know how I feel about living on an island. I like to go all over and explore.

There is Homer, but that is a five hour drive from Anchorage.

Assa, that link is fabulous. Bookmarking that one.

AK
Have you ever watched the show : "Alaska-the last frontier"? That family they portray seems to really have living there figured out.

waterfowlman wrote:AK
Have you ever watched the show : "Alaska-the last frontier"? That family they portray seems to really have living there figured out.

That's the other one I was thinking of. Thanks Rick! they're always out cutting spruce, too.

assateague wrote:That just led me to Google this. Pretty interesting, actually, and surprising. The silver maple I burn apparently isn't worth much, although it certainly seems like it. And I can't believe how low black walnut and cherry are, after burning a bunch last year.

http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/howood.htm

I read somewhere that the bois 'd arc or osage has one of the highest btu values

And I don't burn wood for heat so I don't know how it does. Maybe they pay the chimney sweep frequently.

bill herian wrote:What kind of birch do you have up there?

Hey Bill--Alaska Birch
Alaska birch (B. neoalaskana) occurs throughout much of the state, particularly in interior regions below 4,000 feet of altitude. It is the most common species of birch in Anchorage, where it thrives along waterways, wetlands and slopes within the Chugach mountain range. Growing to 65 feet in height, Alaska birch is a relatively small tree species with a slender, 12-inch diameter trunk topped by a narrow crown of foliage. The bark has a wide range of colors, from white to reddish-pink with nearly black twigs. Highly ornamental, Alaska birch is cultivated throughout North America for its attractive appearance and ability to withstand freezing temperatures.

assateague wrote:

waterfowlman wrote:AK
Have you ever watched the show : "Alaska-the last frontier"? That family they portray seems to really have living there figured out.

That's the other one I was thinking of. Thanks Rick! they're always out cutting spruce, too.

The way they explained it Jim is that there was some sort of blight that killed all of those trees. They've got standing dry, seasoned wood to cut.

OBAMA!

bill herian wrote:Assa, that link is fabulous. Bookmarking that one.

After looking through it myself, I'm going to make sure I make time to go get a few more of those shag hickory trees my father in law wants me to come drop. And I never in a million years would have guessed I would be better off dropping some of those mulberry trees that are all through the woods instead of the red oaks we usually cut. I'm still not sure I believe it.

waterfowlman wrote:

assateague wrote:

waterfowlman wrote:AK
Have you ever watched the show : "Alaska-the last frontier"? That family they portray seems to really have living there figured out.

That's the other one I was thinking of. Thanks Rick! they're always out cutting spruce, too.

The way they explained it Jim is that there was some sort of blight that killed all of those trees. They've got standing dry, seasoned wood to cut.

That's right- I do remember Adz, or however you spell his name, talking about that.

ManlyMan wrote:OBAMA!

Fuck Obama and the horse he rode in on.

assateague wrote:That just led me to Google this. Pretty interesting, actually, and surprising. The silver maple I burn apparently isn't worth much, although it certainly seems like it. And I can't believe how low black walnut and cherry are, after burning a bunch last year.

http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/howood.htm

We about burned the house down one night burning hickory. Now I know why.

waterfowlman wrote:

ManlyMan wrote:OBAMA!

Fuck Obama and the horse he rode in on.

This made me laugh.

assateague wrote:

waterfowlman wrote:AK
Have you ever watched the show : "Alaska-the last frontier"? That family they portray seems to really have living there figured out.

That's the other one I was thinking of. Thanks Rick! they're always out cutting spruce, too.

Those the guys out of Homer and raise cattle?

Neat. Betula are some of my favorite trees. Their bark has some heavyweight antifungal compounds which is why injuns made shit out of it. You could store food in a birchbark basket and it wouldn't rot.

Even more impressive, vikings are known to have lined their mukluks with birchbark which kept them from getting athlete's foot-like skin diseases from always having damp feet.

I've heard that birch is also being incorporated into AIDS research.

bill herian wrote:Neat. Betula are some of my favorite trees. Their bark has some heavyweight antifungal compounds which is why injuns made shit out of it. You could store food in a birchbark basket and it wouldn't rot.

Even more impressive, vikings are known to have lined their mukluks with birchbark which kept them from getting athlete's foot-like skin diseases from always having damp feet.

I've heard that birch is also being incorporated into AIDS research.

Very interesting.

waterfowlman wrote:

assateague wrote:

waterfowlman wrote:AK
Have you ever watched the show : "Alaska-the last frontier"? That family they portray seems to really have living there figured out.

That's the other one I was thinking of. Thanks Rick! they're always out cutting spruce, too.

The way they explained it Jim is that there was some sort of blight that killed all of those trees. They've got standing dry, seasoned wood to cut.

Yes- The Kenai Peninsula had a large beetle kill and that is why they use that there. They can cut it and burn it that winter.

bill herian wrote:Neat. Betula are some of my favorite trees. Their bark has some heavyweight antifungal compounds which is why injuns made shit out of it. You could store food in a birchbark basket and it wouldn't rot.

Even more impressive, vikings are known to have lined their mukluks with birchbark which kept them from getting athlete's foot-like skin diseases from always having damp feet.

I've heard that birch is also being incorporated into AIDS research.

Your a "funny" fucker and a "smart" fucker, impressive!