And now, a video message from Jeff Foiles

[Tomkat]

On the day that OJ Simpson is asking for a new trial, I think its only fair to post up a message from another famous criminal, Jeff "straight meat" Foiles.

So get your pellet gun and wonder bread ready, we are headed to the park-

[goodkarmarising]

I will never own one of his calls, ever.

[flight control]

The video won't play for me.

[The Duck Hammer]

The video won't play for me.

Your not missing much. All he is doing is talking about how "strait meat" he and his team are.

[flight control]

I would have thought he would have gotten all the straight meat he could handle in prison. Now he has a team?

[Tomkat]

I will never own one of his calls, ever.

I had one of his goose calls, in fact jeff tuned it for me. It was after that I found out about his misdeeds.

I gave the call away. I wont ever buy one of his.

[aunt betty]

I bet he choked on straight meat all thru his sentence.


Somebody who is good with a pc...photo shop jeff's face into a porn with a good face shot. Will title it, "Straight Meat".

[rebelp74]

Who gives a shit if the guy illegally killed some birds or not. Big fucking whoopty doo. Not like anyone on here has ever not broken a law. I don't own his calls b/c there are far better available imo, but if I felt that his were a better fit for me I would own them. I'm not going to knock the guy for killing over his limit or any of that, I just don't care for his personality or line of calls.

[Tomkat]

Who gives a shit if the guy illegally killed some birds or not. Big fucking whoopty doo. Not like anyone on here has ever not broken a law. I don't own his calls b/c there are far better available imo, but if I felt that his were a better fit for me I would own them. I'm not going to knock the guy for killing over his limit or any of that, I just don't care for his personality or line of calls.

Did you read the entire indictment against him?

[rebelp74]

Who gives a shit if the guy illegally killed some birds or not. Big fucking whoopty doo. Not like anyone on here has ever not broken a law. I don't own his calls b/c there are far better available imo, but if I felt that his were a better fit for me I would own them. I'm not going to knock the guy for killing over his limit or any of that, I just don't care for his personality or line of calls.

Did you read the entire indictment against him?

What I saw was that he killed over his limit on a video hunt and the camera people ratted him out.

[Bootlipkiller]

Who gives a shit if the guy illegally killed some birds or not. Big fucking whoopty doo. Not like anyone on here has ever not broken a law. I don't own his calls b/c there are far better available imo, but if I felt that his were a better fit for me I would own them. I'm not going to knock the guy for killing over his limit or any of that, I just don't care for his personality or line of calls.

Did you read the entire indictment against him?

What I saw was that he killed over his limit on a video hunt and the camera people ratted him out.

Yea there was a lot more to it then that. he went way over just a little shenanigans.

[The Duck Hammer]

Foiles faces felony conservation charges

A Pittsfield businessman has been charged with numerous felony counts in federal court. The charges are all related to conservation offenses.

A federal grand jury in Springfield returned a 23-count felony indictment last week charging Jeffrey B. Foiles, owner of Foiles Migrators, with conspiracy, wildlife trafficking, and making false writings in connection with the illegal sale of guided waterfowl hunts, the Department of Justice announced Thursday, Dec. 9.

The indictment charges Foiles, 53, of Pleasant Hill, with conspiracy to violate the Lacey Act and the federal false writings statute, 12 substantive violations of the Lacey Act, and ten counts of making false writings in a matter within the jurisdiction of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

The Lacey Act is a federal law that makes it illegal to knowingly transport or sell wildlife taken in violation of federal law or regulation. The act defines the sale of wildlife to include the sale of guiding services for the illegal taking of wildlife.

According to the indictment, Foiles was one of two shareholders of the Fallin’ Skies Strait Meat Duck Club, LLC located in western Pike County. Foiles sold and led guided commercial waterfowl hunts at the club and elsewhere, including Canada. Many of those hunts were subsequently featured in hunting videos, starring Foiles, who reportedly also had sponsorship arrangements with well-known sporting goods companies.

The indictment alleges that from 2003 to 2007, Foiles conspired with others to knowingly transport and sell ducks and geese that had been hunted and killed in violation of federal laws protecting migratory birds. In particular, Foiles is alleged to have sold guided waterfowl hunts at the Fallin’ Skies Strait Meat Duck Club in Pike County, for the purpose of illegally hunting and killing ducks and geese in excess of hunters’ individual daily bag limits. Foiles and his associates are also alleged to have falsified hunting records at the club in order to conceal the excesses, and to have filmed the illegal hunts for inclusion in commercial hunting videos. There are also alleged violations in Canada and in Colorado where Foiles is alleged to have parked at a city park in Loveland, used bread to entice Canada geese to come near his vehicle, shot the geese with a pellet gun and removed their leg bands or collars which he used to decorate his duck and goose call lanyard which he reportedly wore in his videos, according to the indictment.

In some of the charges, Foiles and the group of hunters he was guiding are charged with taking between one and 26 waterfowl over the limit on certain days.

The United States government has notified Foiles, through the indictment, that it will seek the forfeiture of two 2007 Arctic Cat ATVs, 13 Benelli shot guns and an undisclosed number of duck and Canada geese decoys. If any of the items on the list cannot be located or has diminished value, the government shall be entitled to forfeiture of substitute property.

The maximum penalty for a felony violation of the Lacey Act or the federal false writing statute includes up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Foiles is due to have his first court appearance Jan. 19 in federal court. A person answering the phone at Foiles Migrators in Pittsfield said no change in business hours at the facility was expected but declined comment on any other aspect of the allegations.

An indictment is merely an accusation, and a defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in a court of law.

The case was investigated by the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service, in cooperation with the Illinois Department of Natural Resources, the Iowa Department of Natural Resources, and the government of Canada. The case was investigated by the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service, in cooperation with the Illinois Department of Natural Resources, the Iowa Department of Natural Resources, and the government of Canada. The case is being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Central District of Illinois and the Justice Department’s Environmental Crimes Section.

[rebelp74]

All that states is that he killed over his limit several times and guided hunts to people and let them kill over their limit. What's the big deal? None of y'all have evre killed over y'alls limit or been hunting with a group of people that y'all have killed some of their limit or ended the hunt with more than the limit allows?

[The Duck Hammer]

All that states is that he killed over his limit several times and guided hunts to people and let them kill over their limit. What's the big deal? None of y'all have evre killed over y'alls limit or been hunting with a group of people that y'all have killed some of their limit or ended the hunt with more than the limit allows?

He went to a park and baited collared geese then shot them with pellet guns just because the bands looked good on his lanyard. That says real, ethical hunter to me right there. That is what I have a problem with.

[Bulldog0156]

I bet he choked on straight meat all thru his sentence.


Somebody who is good with a pc...photo shop jeff's face into a porn with a good face shot. Will title it, "Straight Meat".

Not sure that it was straight meat that he was choking on...

[Bootlipkiller]

All that states is that he killed over his limit several times and guided hunts to people and let them kill over their limit. What's the big deal? None of y'all have evre killed over y'alls limit or been hunting with a group of people that y'all have killed some of their limit or ended the hunt with more than the limit allows?

I guess if you don't think it's a big deal then it isn't.

[assateague]

There are rapists and child molesters who don't get as much prison time as he did, and they do not forfeit a damn thing as far as possessions go.

It's just a dumbass big brother government racket. They're birds. Anybody, for ANY game violation should not spend one second longer, or be fined one dollar more, than the least punished child molester. Seriously.

[rebelp74]

There are rapists and child molesters who don't get as much prison time as he did, and they do not forfeit a damn thing as far as possessions go.

It's just a dumbass big brother government racket. They're birds. Anybody, for ANY game violation should not spend one second longer, or be fined one dollar more, than the least punished child molester. Seriously.

^^^This^^^

[Goldfish]

There are rapists and child molesters who don't get as much prison time as he did, and they do not forfeit a damn thing as far as possessions go.

It's just a dumbass big brother government racket. They're birds. Anybody, for ANY game violation should not spend one second longer, or be fined one dollar more, than the least punished child molester. Seriously.

Maybe, but willfully, and continually breaking laws shows a lack of respect for the wild animals and your fellow hunters. To get the point thru to someone like that, you gotta make it sting.

sent from a phancy fone

[Tiler_J]

My issue with this guy is that he has put himself out there as an ambassador of our sport. PETA, the anti-hunting crowd, and the anti-gun crowd don't need any more ammo to use against us. I would expect someone who puts themselves out there for public scrutiny to make sure they are obeying the laws. People don't know you or I, but they know the Duck Commander boys, Jeff Foiles, and Ted Nugent (fuck him too, while we are at it). Their actions reflect on all of us hunters. Jeff didn't accidentally shoot over his limit, he knowingly did it and doctored his books to hide it. I love hunting, I am proud of the Robertson's for getting a positive message out there about hunters. Foiles and Nugent are hurting our cause more than helping it as far as I am concerned.

[rebelp74]

My issue with this guy is that he has put himself out there as an ambassador of our sport. PETA, the anti-hunting crowd, and the anti-gun crowd don't need any more ammo to use against us. I would expect someone who puts themselves out there for public scrutiny to make sure they are obeying the laws. People don't know you or I, but they know the Duck Commander boys, Jeff Foiles, and Ted Nugent (fuck him too, while we are at it). Their actions reflect on all of us hunters. Jeff didn't accidentally shoot over his limit, he knowingly did it and doctored his books to hide it. I love hunting, I am proud of the Robertson's for getting a positive message out there about hunters. Foiles and Nugent are hurting our cause more than helping it as far as I am concerned.

I can agree with this.

[Tomkat]

There are rapists and child molesters who don't get as much prison time as he did, and they do not forfeit a damn thing as far as possessions go.

It's just a dumbass big brother government racket. They're birds. Anybody, for ANY game violation should not spend one second longer, or be fined one dollar more, than the least punished child molester. Seriously.

Maybe, but willfully, and continually breaking laws shows a lack of respect for the wild animals and your fellow hunters. To get the point thru to someone like that, you gotta make it sting.

sent from a phancy fone

THIS

Its not called law suggestion, its called law enforcement. This is the kind of crap my grandpas generation did. Haven't we learned anything about managing our resources?

AT you and Reb can squawk over the punishment. Personally I would have not jailed him; I would have banned him from hunting for eternity.

Come on, is that what you want to teach your kids?


Sent from a fancy ass phone

[rebelp74]

There are rapists and child molesters who don't get as much prison time as he did, and they do not forfeit a damn thing as far as possessions go.

It's just a dumbass big brother government racket. They're birds. Anybody, for ANY game violation should not spend one second longer, or be fined one dollar more, than the least punished child molester. Seriously.

Maybe, but willfully, and continually breaking laws shows a lack of respect for the wild animals and your fellow hunters. To get the point thru to someone like that, you gotta make it sting.

sent from a phancy fone

THIS

Its not called law suggestion, its called law enforcement. This is the kind of crap my grandpas generation did. Haven't we learned anything about managing our resources?

AT you and Reb can squawk over the punishment. Personally I would have not jailed him; I would have banned him from hunting for eternity.

I like both of you, but if you think parking geese for leg bands is a good idea, we are not gonna stay friends. Come on, is that what you want to teach your kids?


Sent from a fancy ass phone

Negative, I didn't read where it said anything about shooting park geese for leg bands. Also, if I had kids, I would not teach them anything like that. IMO, hunting is not a sport it is a means of food and a tradition. That is what they would be taught. A lot of people speed up to run over critters on the road, I don't, I slow down and let them pass. However, I may or may not have allegedly killed over limit on several hunts of different species of animals.

[The Duck Hammer]

There are rapists and child molesters who don't get as much prison time as he did, and they do not forfeit a damn thing as far as possessions go.

It's just a dumbass big brother government racket. They're birds. Anybody, for ANY game violation should not spend one second longer, or be fined one dollar more, than the least punished child molester. Seriously.

Maybe, but willfully, and continually breaking laws shows a lack of respect for the wild animals and your fellow hunters. To get the point thru to someone like that, you gotta make it sting.

sent from a phancy fone

THIS

Its not called law suggestion, its called law enforcement. This is the kind of crap my grandpas generation did. Haven't we learned anything about managing our resources?

AT you and Reb can squawk over the punishment. Personally I would have not jailed him; I would have banned him from hunting for eternity.

I like both of you, but if you think parking geese for leg bands is a good idea, we are not gonna stay friends. Come on, is that what you want to teach your kids?


Sent from a fancy ass phone

Negative, I didn't read where it said anything about shooting park geese for leg bands. Also, if I had kids, I would not teach them anything like that. IMO, hunting is not a sport it is a means of food and a tradition. That is what they would be taught. A lot of people speed up to run over critters on the road, I don't, I slow down and let them pass. However, I may or may not have allegedly killed over limit on several hunts of different species of animals.

I am not against people killing over their limits for food. If that is what is necessary for you to survive it is your God given right to kill animals for food, but Foiles didn't do that he killed over his limit for money completely different.

[NuffDaddy]

Anybody that knowingly, and continually breaks game laws for the sole reason of financial gain doesn't deserve to hold a gun. Now I don't have a problem with a poor family that shoots a couple deer more than they are supposed to or a few more ducks than their limit to survive.

[NuffDaddy]

There are rapists and child molesters who don't get as much prison time as he did, and they do not forfeit a damn thing as far as possessions go.

It's just a dumbass big brother government racket. They're birds. Anybody, for ANY game violation should not spend one second longer, or be fined one dollar more, than the least punished child molester. Seriously.

Maybe, but willfully, and continually breaking laws shows a lack of respect for the wild animals and your fellow hunters. To get the point thru to someone like that, you gotta make it sting.

sent from a phancy fone

THIS

Its not called law suggestion, its called law enforcement. This is the kind of crap my grandpas generation did. Haven't we learned anything about managing our resources?

AT you and Reb can squawk over the punishment. Personally I would have not jailed him; I would have banned him from hunting for eternity.

I like both of you, but if you think parking geese for leg bands is a good idea, we are not gonna stay friends. Come on, is that what you want to teach your kids?


Sent from a fancy ass phone

Negative, I didn't read where it said anything about shooting park geese for leg bands. Also, if I had kids, I would not teach them anything like that. IMO, hunting is not a sport it is a means of food and a tradition. That is what they would be taught. A lot of people speed up to run over critters on the road, I don't, I slow down and let them pass. However, I may or may not have allegedly killed over limit on several hunts of different species of animals.

I am not against people killing over their limits for food. If that is what is necessary for you to survive it is your God given right to kill animals for food, but Foiles didn't do that he killed over his limit for money completely different.

Beat me to it. You hit the nail on the head.

[The Duck Hammer]

[Goldfish]

You know that Phil Robertson admitted to poaching in his younger days, right?

sent from a phancy fone

[The Duck Hammer]

You know that Phil Robertson admitted to poaching in his younger days, right?

sent from a phancy fone

Did he do it for financial gain or to survive? My guess would be to survive.

[rebelp74]

I still don't really have a problem with him killing over his limit. I lean with Tiller on this though, I don't like the fact that, in the eyes of shit people, it makes hunters as a whole look bad.