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Article in latest Delta Watwrfowl mag. It is about dwindling duck stamp sales.
This chart.
I recall the spike in the 88 season. I wonder what caused the big dip in 72?
Oil crisis?

I find it hard to believe only a bit over 500,000 duck stamps/year get sold.

aunt betty wrote:Article in latest Delta Watwrfowl mag. It is about dwindling duck stamp sales.
This chart.
I recall the spike in the 88 season. I wonder what caused the big dip in 72?
Oil crisis?

I find it hard to believe only a bit over 500,000 duck stamps/year get sold.

It's those damn birders' fault. They just figured out they don't need to have the stamp to observe the birds.

I find it amusing that the breeding population is at an all time high, but yet still the big government "WE HAVE TO SAVE CRP OR ALL THE DUCKS WILL DIE" sky is falling types scream to the heavens about the need for tax dollars. It appears they don't have any basis in reality.

assateague wrote:I find it amusing that the breeding population is at an all time high, but yet still the big government "WE HAVE TO SAVE CRP OR ALL THE DUCKS WILL DIE" sky is falling types scream to the heavens about the need for tax dollars. It appears they don't have any basis in reality.

Been thinking the same thing when I read the DU magazine.

goodkarmarising wrote:

assateague wrote:I find it amusing that the breeding population is at an all time high, but yet still the big government "WE HAVE TO SAVE CRP OR ALL THE DUCKS WILL DIE" sky is falling types scream to the heavens about the need for tax dollars. It appears they don't have any basis in reality.

Been thinking the same thing when I read the DU magazine.

It's a partial truth. If we lost it all, the population would go down. It's up for you to extract the pertinent information, and you better not ask questions!

In the new DU mag. it said now a lot of the CRP that was "saved" is being plowed over again. When it comes to that stuff I never know what to believe and what not to.

huntfishnv wrote:In the new DU mag. it said now a lot of the CRP that was "saved" is being plowed over again. When it comes to that stuff I never know what to believe and what not to.

The amount of CRP being lost is amazing. One of the main reasons for declining upland bird numbers.

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jarbo03 wrote:

huntfishnv wrote:In the new DU mag. it said now a lot of the CRP that was "saved" is being plowed over again. When it comes to that stuff I never know what to believe and what not to.

The amount of CRP being lost is amazing. One of the main reasons for declining upland bird numbers.

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There is almost no CRP left in mid MI. Wild pheasants are near nonexistent now.

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jarbo03 wrote:

huntfishnv wrote:In the new DU mag. it said now a lot of the CRP that was "saved" is being plowed over again. When it comes to that stuff I never know what to believe and what not to.

The amount of CRP being lost is amazing. One of the main reasons for declining upland bird numbers.

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There is almost no CRP left in mid MI. Wild pheasants are near nonexistent now.

These guys just cant imagine jet black central Illnois dirt thats plowed. Every square inch MUST be used to produce corn and soybeans. NO animals, insect pests, or wildlife of ANY type can be tolerated. MUST. GROW. MORE. CORN. AND. BEANS.

aunt betty wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

jarbo03 wrote:

huntfishnv wrote:In the new DU mag. it said now a lot of the CRP that was "saved" is being plowed over again. When it comes to that stuff I never know what to believe and what not to.

The amount of CRP being lost is amazing. One of the main reasons for declining upland bird numbers.

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There is almost no CRP left in mid MI. Wild pheasants are near nonexistent now.

These guys just cant imagine jet black central Illnois dirt thats plowed. Every square inch MUST be used to produce corn and soybeans. NO animals, insect pests, or wildlife of ANY type can be tolerated. MUST. GROW. MORE. CORN. AND. BEANS.

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You can go to the USDA NASS site ad see how many acres of CRP are set to expire each year on a state by state basis.
I want to say North Dakota alone had something like 14mln acres expiring by 2014 and is statistically a significant percentage of the total CRP.

With crop prices under pressure it's anyone's guess, but with $7 corn it's all going to get turned under

aunt betty wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

jarbo03 wrote:

huntfishnv wrote:In the new DU mag. it said now a lot of the CRP that was "saved" is being plowed over again. When it comes to that stuff I never know what to believe and what not to.

The amount of CRP being lost is amazing. One of the main reasons for declining upland bird numbers.

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There is almost no CRP left in mid MI. Wild pheasants are near nonexistent now.

These guys just cant imagine jet black central Illnois dirt thats plowed. Every square inch MUST be used to produce corn and soybeans. NO animals, insect pests, or wildlife of ANY type can be tolerated. MUST. GROW. MORE. CORN. AND. BEANS.

Not much different in southern Michigan. Field after field.

DeadEye_Dan wrote:You can go to the USDA NASS site ad see how many acres of CRP are set to expire each year on a state by state basis.
I want to say North Dakota alone had something like 14mln acres expiring by 2014 and is statistically a significant percentage of the total CRP.

With crop prices under pressure it's anyone's guess, but with $7 corn it's all going to get turned under

Used to hunt Iowa every year, they had birds til corn hit $6. There are people planting corn in western KS, unsuitable corn ground. KS saving grace for pheasant will be wheat.

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jarbo03 wrote:

DeadEye_Dan wrote:You can go to the USDA NASS site ad see how many acres of CRP are set to expire each year on a state by state basis.
I want to say North Dakota alone had something like 14mln acres expiring by 2014 and is statistically a significant percentage of the total CRP.

With crop prices under pressure it's anyone's guess, but with $7 corn it's all going to get turned under

Used to hunt Iowa every year, they had birds til corn hit $6. There are people planting corn in western KS, unsuitable corn ground. KS saving grace for pheasant will be wheat.

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And that will be further west. Isn't it time to stop corn subsidies?



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What exactly is considered CRP?

huntfishnv wrote:What exactly is considered CRP?

Conservation Reserve Program

The Conservation Reserve Program (CRP) is a land conservation program administered by the Farm Service Agency (FSA). In exchange for a yearly rental payment, farmers enrolled in the program agree to remove environmentally sensitive land from agricultural production and plant species that will improve environmental health and quality. Contracts for land enrolled in CRP are 10-15 years in length. The long-term goal of the program is to re-establish valuable land cover to help improve water quality, prevent soil erosion, and reduce loss of wildlife habitat.

http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/webapp?area ... &topic=crp

Feelin' Fowl wrote:

huntfishnv wrote:What exactly is considered CRP?

Conservation Reserve Program

The Conservation Reserve Program (CRP) is a land conservation program administered by the Farm Service Agency (FSA). In exchange for a yearly rental payment, farmers enrolled in the program agree to remove environmentally sensitive land from agricultural production and plant species that will improve environmental health and quality. Contracts for land enrolled in CRP are 10-15 years in length. The long-term goal of the program is to re-establish valuable land cover to help improve water quality, prevent soil erosion, and reduce loss of wildlife habitat.

http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/webapp?area ... &topic=crp

Thanks ff. so pretty much any natural land?

huntfishnv wrote:

Feelin' Fowl wrote:

huntfishnv wrote:What exactly is considered CRP?

Conservation Reserve Program

The Conservation Reserve Program (CRP) is a land conservation program administered by the Farm Service Agency (FSA). In exchange for a yearly rental payment, farmers enrolled in the program agree to remove environmentally sensitive land from agricultural production and plant species that will improve environmental health and quality. Contracts for land enrolled in CRP are 10-15 years in length. The long-term goal of the program is to re-establish valuable land cover to help improve water quality, prevent soil erosion, and reduce loss of wildlife habitat.

http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/webapp?area ... &topic=crp

Thanks ff. so pretty much any natural land?

Kinda. Its more along the lines of keeping the land in its natural state, or returning the land to its natural state. To get this done the govt. pays the land owners to leave it, or not farm it depending on what's needed...the problem is that the money is going away, and more farmers are getting more money out of potential crops that they would get from leaving the land alone.

aunt betty wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

jarbo03 wrote:

huntfishnv wrote:In the new DU mag. it said now a lot of the CRP that was "saved" is being plowed over again. When it comes to that stuff I never know what to believe and what not to.

The amount of CRP being lost is amazing. One of the main reasons for declining upland bird numbers.

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There is almost no CRP left in mid MI. Wild pheasants are near nonexistent now.

These guys just cant imagine jet black central Illnois dirt thats plowed. Every square inch MUST be used to produce corn and soybeans. NO animals, insect pests, or wildlife of ANY type can be tolerated. MUST. GROW. MORE. CORN. AND. BEANS.

Betty i have come to like your posts and even your off the rocker humor, but stop bitching about what someone does with his own land! if you want to buy some land i have lots of it i will sell you. can plant it back to native grass and plant or grow poppy for all i give a shit.
i mowed fence rows today and just to piss you off i will mow more tomorrow and the next few days
stepping down now

Exactly. I love duck hunting, and I love dove hunting. But what I love more than that is the idea of personal property rights which helped found this country. It is none of my neighbor's damn business whether I'm growing pine trees, switchgrass, or beans. Nor should they have any say in it. Go buy their own damn farm, and grow what they see fit.

assateague wrote::clap:

Exactly. I love duck hunting, and I love dove hunting. But what I love more than that is the idea of personal property rights which helped found this country. It is none of my neighbor's damn business whether I'm growing pine trees, switchgrass, or beans. Nor should they have any say in it. Go buy their own damn farm, and grow what they see fit.

Agreed. If I had it my way, there would be more than enough "public" land for everyone to enjoy without being on top of each other, BUT I respect the rights of the land owners, and understand that they should be allowed to do whatever they want with that land. Especially when it comes to making money.

So long story short. "GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!":lol:

Bootlipkiller wrote:So long story short. "GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!":lol:

fuck yes!!

I read the title as changing the face of flowers.

rebelp74 wrote:I read the title as changing the face of flowers.

Hate when that happens

I never complained about crp in this thread. Someone has carried some hate over from a thread somebody wrote last year. This thread is not fucking about CRP. Read the title. Please stay on topic and quit inventing imaginary rants about crp.
Your just pissed cuz you didnt get your crp check yet this year.

Quit your bitchin AB. You mentioned an article that talks about crp and its losses.

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aunt betty wrote:I find it hard to believe only a bit over 500,000 duck stamps/year get sold.

That doesn't seem right, as Louisiana alone has 100,000 duck hunters, according to our lead waterfowl biologist. (We're currently bucking the general trend by gaining hunters.) But the old computer I'm on these days won't process the federal PDF with the figures to check other popular waterfowling states.

From the numbers I saw, it is around 1.6 mil sold per year. Will try to attach link.

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