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fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:14 pm
by Mornin Beef
Don, your from PA right? What's your opinion on fracking for natural gas?

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:16 pm
by Mornin Beef
Pretty sure its too messy of a game and shouldn't be done considering the alternatives. I feel bad for people who do not own mineral rights on their own property.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:25 pm
by Eric Haynes
Frack everything I say.

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Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:27 pm
by rebelp74
Go frack yourself

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:37 pm
by Woody
Hydroponic fracturing is not bad for the environment... don't buy in to that liberal mumbo gumbo.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:38 pm
by assateague
You know what's bad for the environment? Me flipping the eff out because I have to pay $5 a gallon for gas. It's in everyone's best interest to have cheap gas.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:41 pm
by rebelp74
assateague wrote:You know what's bad for the environment? Me flipping the eff out because I have to pay $5 a gallon for gas. It's in everyone's best interest to have cheap gas.

What about rain taxes? In all seriousness, that's some of the biggest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:43 pm
by assateague
So far, that particular bullshit doesn't effect me. It stops a county over, on the Bay. But people are dreaming if they think that won't be expanded.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:44 pm
by rebelp74
I still can't wrap my head around how in the hell rain can legally be taxed.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:45 pm
by assateague
The governor's head is very tiny.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:47 pm
by rebelp74
Sounds like someone needs impeached.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:52 pm
by Woody
assateague wrote:You know what's bad for the environment? Me flipping the eff out because I have to pay $5 a gallon for gas. It's in everyone's best interest to have cheap gas.


Breaking news from the white house press core!

Assa's elevated stress levels are causing increases in methane emissions this causes acid rain to fall in the peoples republic.
This is killing off corn and bean crops, causing a food and ethanol shortage. Leading to starvation of local children and increased gas prices for the intercity dwellers.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:52 pm
by assateague
No way. The masses of teat-sucking, entitlement-minded, redistributing dickwads across the Bay love that crap. Stick it to whitey.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:09 pm
by Flightstopper
Woody wrote:Hydroponic fracturing is not bad for the environment... don't buy in to that liberal mumbo gumbo.


This.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:10 pm
by Mornin Beef
Woodrow, how many types of fracking is there relative to what is done in Pa for natural gas.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:12 pm
by Mornin Beef
If there was a fracking boom in one your guys towns and you property value was decreased would you expect to be compensated?

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:20 pm
by rebelp74
assateague wrote:Stick it to whitey.

Aren't you brown? :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:22 pm
by vincentpa
Fracking is safe and a boon for the economy. Fracking has kept PA afloat during the Great Recession. Almost every net job created in PA since 2008 has been related to fracking. NY has banned fracking. What a bunch of liberal idiots. They are missing put on a gold mine. We welcome all frackers with open arms.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:23 pm
by Mornin Beef
rebelp74 wrote:
assateague wrote:Stick it to whitey.

Aren't you brown? :D

I dont think he's a proud mexican given all the raving he does over 12 pack taco bell snack bags

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:25 pm
by Mornin Beef
vincentpa wrote:Fracking is safe and a boon for the economy. Fracking has kept PA afloat during the Great Recession. Almost every net job created in PA since 2008 has been related to fracking. NY has banned fracking. What a bunch of liberal idiots. They are missing put on a gold mine. We welcome all frackers with open arms.

It is proven that fracking can affect groundwater aquifers. Would you allow fracking on your land if you had a well?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:25 pm
by vincentpa
Mornin Beef wrote:If there was a fracking boom in one your guys towns and you property value was decreased would you expect to be compensated?


Property value decreased? How about increased and significantly. Try buying a house in western pa now. While the values of everyone's house everywhere else were declining, our values were increasing. We are looking for a new house now and are having trouble finding one. Damn frackers!

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:27 pm
by vincentpa
Mornin Beef wrote:
vincentpa wrote:Fracking is safe and a boon for the economy. Fracking has kept PA afloat during the Great Recession. Almost every net job created in PA since 2008 has been related to fracking. NY has banned fracking. What a bunch of liberal idiots. They are missing put on a gold mine. We welcome all frackers with open arms.

It is proven that fracking can affect groundwater aquifers. Would you allow fracking on your land if you had a well?


Not unless they have an accident when drilling and that is extremely rare. Don't get your info from Gasland. It was a proven hack job.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:29 pm
by Mornin Beef
vincentpa wrote:
Mornin Beef wrote:If there was a fracking boom in one your guys towns and you property value was decreased would you expect to be compensated?


Property value decreased? How about increased and significantly. Try buying a house in western pa now. While the values of everyone's house everywhere else were declining, our values were increasing. We are looking for a new house now and are having trouble finding one. Damn frackers!

YOure lucky to have mineral rights. Once its all tapped the land cant be worth much.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:36 pm
by rebelp74
Mornin Beef wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:
assateague wrote:Stick it to whitey.

Aren't you brown? :D

I dont think he's a proud mexican given all the raving he does over 12 pack taco bell snack bags

:lol: :lol: :lol: Brown pride is not evident!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:50 pm
by assateague
Mornin Beef wrote:
vincentpa wrote:Fracking is safe and a boon for the economy. Fracking has kept PA afloat during the Great Recession. Almost every net job created in PA since 2008 has been related to fracking. NY has banned fracking. What a bunch of liberal idiots. They are missing put on a gold mine. We welcome all frackers with open arms.

It is proven that fracking can affect groundwater aquifers. Would you allow fracking on your land if you had a well?



No it's not, and yes I would. Know what else "can" affect aquifers? A comet hitting the earth.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:07 pm
by vincentpa
Mornin Beef wrote:
vincentpa wrote:
Mornin Beef wrote:If there was a fracking boom in one your guys towns and you property value was decreased would you expect to be compensated?


Property value decreased? How about increased and significantly. Try buying a house in western pa now. While the values of everyone's house everywhere else were declining, our values were increasing. We are looking for a new house now and are having trouble finding one. Damn frackers!

YOure lucky to have mineral rights. Once its all tapped the land cant be worth much.


Don't have mineral rights. I live on the city. Supply and demand. BTW, I've not heard of any water problems associated with fracking and I live in ground zero of it.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:09 pm
by huntfishnv
vincentpa wrote:
Mornin Beef wrote:
vincentpa wrote:Fracking is safe and a boon for the economy. Fracking has kept PA afloat during the Great Recession. Almost every net job created in PA since 2008 has been related to fracking. NY has banned fracking. What a bunch of liberal idiots. They are missing put on a gold mine. We welcome all frackers with open arms.

It is proven that fracking can affect groundwater aquifers. Would you allow fracking on your land if you had a well?


Not unless they have an accident when drilling and that is extremely rare. Don't get your info from Gasland. It was a proven hack job.
x2 it's a misconception that fracking destroys the water around it. The water And the oil/gas are separate.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:13 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
vincentpa wrote:
Mornin Beef wrote:
vincentpa wrote:Fracking is safe and a boon for the economy. Fracking has kept PA afloat during the Great Recession. Almost every net job created in PA since 2008 has been related to fracking. NY has banned fracking. What a bunch of liberal idiots. They are missing put on a gold mine. We welcome all frackers with open arms.

It is proven that fracking can affect groundwater aquifers. Would you allow fracking on your land if you had a well?


Not unless they have an accident when drilling and that is extremely rare. Don't get your info from Gasland. It was a proven hack job.


Are you sure? I read a post on Facebook that said it was really, really, really bad for the environment. Al Gore said so too.



Bon Jour!!

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:19 pm
by vincentpa
The aquifers are thousands of feet ABOVE the zone where they frack. Unless there is an accident when capping the well, the aquifer will not be impacted. There is a chance there will be an accident like anything in life. The chances are very rare. The drillers are careful. Their livelihood depends on it; and it's a good livelihood too.

Re: fracking don taylor

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:49 pm
by Mornin Beef
vincentpa wrote:The aquifers are thousands of feet ABOVE the zone where they frack. Unless there is an accident when capping the well, the aquifer will not be impacted. There is a chance there will be an accident like anything in life. The chances are very rare. The drillers are careful. Their livelihood depends on it; and it's a good livelihood too.

Ok, I can be honest about the fact that I just watched gasland 2. I know myself well enough to understand I tend to get sucked into propaganda. Heck, that Aiden K on the other site that ranted for two days about jews had me agreeing with him after about the tenth post. But Vinny, that gasland 2 interviewed a highly regarded Cornel Prof. that said 5% of wells fail instantly somewhere along the casing. That failure could be very far away from the aquifer or right below it. The documentary also corroborated with inside gas corp documents that said the thing. I'm sure they wish to solve any problem because as you say their livelihoods depend upon it. That why it is an internal topic within these businesses i'm sure. My question is why is the hell would the casing be made of concrete? Concrete seems like a terrible choice and the immediate 5% failure seems logical to me. I dont know how this gentlemen or the gas corps define failure, but I would assume it means the allowance of what is inside the core being able to escape. Beyond the initial 5% with time degradation increases almost exponentially and that was shown from a gas corp document. Im not against fracking, but that is only because im not face to face with it. They put a large wind farm on the largest island next to my house. Very fishing/waterfowl/birding area for me and I hate them too. Pretty immature I suppose.