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Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:40 am
by jehler
I haven't had a cigarette in a few years and even though I don't really care for them much I've had a hankering lately. I stopped by the local smoke shop and looked for the smokes assa had in a pic a few weeks back....$7.50!!!

I almost cussed the girl out, I bit my tongue and walked out the door, holy hell, that would buy a damn decent cigar!

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:03 am
by Mornin Beef
jehler wrote:I haven't had a cigarette in a few years and even though I don't really care for them much I've had a hankering lately. I stopped by the local smoke shop and looked for the smokes assa had in a pic a few weeks back....$7.50!!!

I almost cussed the girl out, I bit my tongue and walked out the door, holy hell, that would buy a damn decent cigar!

Thats cheap as hell. A pack of marbs is 9.50 here. I havent had a cig since last friday. Went out frogging with friends in tepid waist deep water and smoked a pack and drank a box of suds while gigging and felt like shit for 2 days. Hate cigs. Dont have the ehler wisdom of moderation.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:11 am
by Mornin Beef
This guy called the cops on himself. Probably a 8K mistake. I cant imagine waking up in a jail cell thinking about what I have done after that. How much is an average DWI, about 8K right? http://buffalo.ynn.com/content/top_stor ... -to-drive/

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:13 am
by Mornin Beef
jehler wrote:I haven't had a cigarette in a few years and even though I don't really care for them much I've had a hankering lately. I stopped by the local smoke shop and looked for the smokes assa had in a pic a few weeks back....$7.50!!!

I almost cussed the girl out, I bit my tongue and walked out the door, holy hell, that would buy a damn decent cigar!

I believe he spends a little extra on organic cigs cuz they are actually good for you that way, kinda like pot.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:52 am
by goodkarmarising
5 bucks a pack if I really wanted em

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:02 am
by assateague
They're $7.20 here.

Beef, if you smoke too much when you drink, you really should try the injun smokes. There's no "cigarette hangover" whatsoever.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:47 pm
by Mornin Beef
assateague wrote:They're $7.20 here.

Beef, if you smoke too much when you drink, you really should try the injun smokes. There's no "cigarette hangover" whatsoever.

No doubt. I hate smoking cigarettes. Havent had one in a week. Gunna try to make it a century.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:05 pm
by assateague
And they burn twice as long, so they're actually cheaper. If you're a menthol guy, their natural menthols are pretty tasty.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:15 pm
by huntall6
I don't always smoke, but when I do, I prefer American spirit yellows.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:03 pm
by Feelin' Fowl
assateague wrote:And they burn twice as long, so they're actually cheaper. If you're a menthol guy, their natural menthols are pretty tasty.

What brand are you talking about?

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:18 pm
by Olly
Over 2 years cigarette free. The cost was the only reason I quit but the side effects have been worth far more than the savings.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:48 pm
by assateague
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
assateague wrote:And they burn twice as long, so they're actually cheaper. If you're a menthol guy, their natural menthols are pretty tasty.

What brand are you talking about?


American Spirit

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:04 am
by Tomkat
Jehler got me to thinking about my entire cigarette consumption over the last 50 years...

Let's see, best as I can figure, about 5 cigarettes in the last 50 years.

They were all in 1977. Never liked them much.

As much as AT hates paying taxes, it surprises me he spreads his butt cheeks so willingly for Uncle Sam. Bitches about the rain tax, but takes it prison style with tobacco taxes...you are a complex man Jim.

My uncle and my dad both smoked for over 50 years.
They have both quit, and only need oxygen on a part time basis now.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:13 am
by assateague
If it wasn't for smoking, I would most likely be in prison. And as far as the tax goes, I'm ok with, because it is paid at my discretion. That's always been my beef with taxes. Not that they exist, but how they are taken. Nobody is taking the cigarette tax automatically out of my paycheck or wallet, the cigarette tax is assessed based directly on my actions (buying smokes), and not assessed via an act of nature (the rain tax). I'm all about individual choices, especially when it comes to taxes. You want to see how much good your spending is doing, make contributions voluntary. Like my cigarette tax.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:26 am
by Tomkat
assateague wrote:If it wasn't for smoking, I would most likely be in prison. And as far as the tax goes, I'm ok with, because it is paid at my discretion. That's always been my beef with taxes. Not that they exist, but how they are taken. Nobody is taking the cigarette tax automatically out of my paycheck or wallet, the cigarette tax is assessed based directly on my actions (buying smokes), and not assessed via an act of nature (the rain tax). I'm all about individual choices, especially when it comes to taxes. You want to see how much good your spending is doing, make contributions voluntary. Like my cigarette tax.


Good answer. By this logic, you are in favor of toll roads?

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:41 am
by assateague
Yes. Very much so.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:44 am
by Tomkat
assateague wrote:Yes. Very much so.


How about ammo tax?

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:46 am
by assateague
Yep. Matter of fact, I'm for a national sales tax on everything as opposed to an income tax. I bitch about those taxes mostly because of the double taxation issue which is incurred by taxing my money when I earn it, and taxing it again when I spend it. That's bullshit.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:03 am
by Bayside
If Assa doesn't have a PhD in Econ, he certainly did a good job of getting to the heart of tax policy on his own. Best taxes are those borne directly by beneficiaries of activity dunned. Ammo tax is good, so long as the HOGs in DC use the money for conservation, maintenance and acquisition of resources for those who use the outdoors. Same with gas tax, toll roads, airline tax etc.
D o have to disagree about National Sales Tax, IMO it just feeds the beast. Unless coupled with amendment to forever eliminate an income tax, the HOGs will just demand both. (see Europe)
Ultimately, we need to prune the federal government. Its a mafia outfit. Take taxes from everyone, grab their "commission" and send back to states as "aid". No wonder every dip@#$% and incompetent wants to be a politician. (New Jersey resident, I know these things :evil: !

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:35 am
by Tomkat
Bayside wrote:If Assa doesn't have a PhD in Econ, he certainly did a good job of getting to the heart of tax policy on his own. Best taxes are those borne directly by beneficiaries of activity dunned. Ammo tax is good, so long as the HOGs in DC use the money for conservation, maintenance and acquisition of resources for those who use the outdoors. Same with gas tax, toll roads, airline tax etc.
D o have to disagree about National Sales Tax, IMO it just feeds the beast. Unless coupled with amendment to forever eliminate an income tax, the HOGs will just demand both. (see Europe)
Ultimately, we need to prune the federal government. Its a mafia outfit. Take taxes from everyone, grab their "commission" and send back to states as "aid". No wonder every dip@#$% and incompetent wants to be a politician. (New Jersey resident, I know these things :evil: !


Welcome- Great first post, I think you will fit in good here.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:57 am
by assateague
Bayside wrote:If Assa doesn't have a PhD in Econ, he certainly did a good job of getting to the heart of tax policy on his own. Best taxes are those borne directly by beneficiaries of activity dunned. Ammo tax is good, so long as the HOGs in DC use the money for conservation, maintenance and acquisition of resources for those who use the outdoors. Same with gas tax, toll roads, airline tax etc.
D o have to disagree about National Sales Tax, IMO it just feeds the beast. Unless coupled with amendment to forever eliminate an income tax, the HOGs will just demand both. (see Europe)
Ultimately, we need to prune the federal government. Its a mafia outfit. Take taxes from everyone, grab their "commission" and send back to states as "aid". No wonder every dip@#$% and incompetent wants to be a politician. (New Jersey resident, I know these things :evil: !


Just to be clear, I'm for abolishing the income tax in favor of a national sales tax.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:53 am
by Mornin Beef
assateague wrote:
Bayside wrote:If Assa doesn't have a PhD in Econ, he certainly did a good job of getting to the heart of tax policy on his own. Best taxes are those borne directly by beneficiaries of activity dunned. Ammo tax is good, so long as the HOGs in DC use the money for conservation, maintenance and acquisition of resources for those who use the outdoors. Same with gas tax, toll roads, airline tax etc.
D o have to disagree about National Sales Tax, IMO it just feeds the beast. Unless coupled with amendment to forever eliminate an income tax, the HOGs will just demand both. (see Europe)
Ultimately, we need to prune the federal government. Its a mafia outfit. Take taxes from everyone, grab their "commission" and send back to states as "aid". No wonder every dip@#$% and incompetent wants to be a politician. (New Jersey resident, I know these things :evil: !


Just to be clear, I'm for abolishing the income tax in favor of a national sales tax.

Is the income tax unconstitutional?

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:06 pm
by assateague
Since the amendment was properly ratified, I would have to say no. But it is certainly un-American.

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:24 pm
by Mornin Beef
assateague wrote:Since the amendment was properly ratified, I would have to say no. But it is certainly un-American.

Fuck!

Re: Not really cheap-assa

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:55 pm
by aunt betty
I quit smoking in 1980 for six long years...then forgot to start up again.
Will smoke a half dozen cigars a year and a few blunts.
Then some skee skee skee skeee. YAYuhh.