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Flooding corn

Posted:
Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:12 pm
by KC KONG
I have been interested in flooding a property of ours for a few years but I am not really sure how to go about it and if it will be worth it in the end. It is 50 aercs with 10-15 of that being timber. About 3/4 of it would need to be levied up and proper drainage. We kill a few ducks off the pond on the property next to it every year. The location ( southeast of kansas city) is what worries me with it being such a small amout of flooded corn probable 30 aerce and maybe 5-10 aerce of flooded timber if it was done right. WIll that be enough to pull ducks and hold them with no other people in the county that floods crops?
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:16 pm
by BrewGUN
If that the only thing the ducks have it seems like they would be pouring in there. Would it hold them, as long as therres food and safety, yes, but overhunting it, youll push them all out. a few hunts a week seems like it would be maxing it out, unless you have a lot of fresh flight birds coming through. my .02
Re: Flooding corn

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Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:18 pm
by rebelp74
It should be enough to pull ducks. You'd most likely have to hunt it sparingly to keep from scaring them off for good though.
Oh and

Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:29 pm
by aunt betty
Dont flood until just before the ducks arrive. Hard to predict...
The corn will germinate and fall off a couple weeks after flooding depending on conditions. Puddle duck love to dive after the germinated kernels.
Re: Flooding corn

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Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:32 pm
by one2many
aunt betty wrote:Dont flood until just before the ducks arrive. Hard to predict...
The corn will germinate and fall off a couple weeks after flooding depending on conditions. Puddle duck love to dive after the germinated kernels.
the corn in his area germinates the middle of april, i would bet.
and

new guy
betty leave the farming to the dumb fugging farmers. stick to chickens

Re: Flooding corn

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Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:43 pm
by NuffDaddy
Don't know how the crops go out there, but on the WMAs here try and plant so the corn turns brown about 2 weeks before season, then they start the flooding shortly after. Usually flood anywhere from 6" of water to cob high on the corn. And like said above, don't over hunt it.
Re: Flooding corn

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Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:59 pm
by aunt betty
Having actually hunted over flooded corn since the seventies qualifies me to comment on the subject. They flood the corn here at the end of October and it germinates around duck-o-clock. Right on scedule. Our season starts very soon after the corn gets flooded.
About two to three weeks later, the mallards come through in a good year.
I have walked into these fields when other hunters insisted the corn was gone. I stood in knee deep water looking at empty cobs. Then after I stood still...looked down and it was gold everywhere. No corn my ass. Set up and killed ducks. lol
The corn germinated and popped off the cobs by itself.
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:30 pm
by KC KONG
Anyone know the regulations in Missouri for maybe harvesting strips of the corn? or pumping out of a creek/river? Can you broadcast smart weed or millet or does it have to be drilled?
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:57 pm
by MuddyWaterWarlock
aunt betty wrote:Having actually hunted over flooded corn since the seventies qualifies me to comment on the subject. They flood the corn here at the end of October and it germinates around duck-o-clock. Right on scedule. Our season starts very soon after the corn gets flooded.
About two to three weeks later, the mallards come through in a good year.
I have walked into these fields when other hunters insisted the corn was gone. I stood in knee deep water looking at empty cobs. Then after I stood still...looked down and it was gold everywhere. No corn my ass. Set up and killed ducks. lol
The corn germinated and popped off the cobs by itself.
Betty, the term germination is for when the plant sprouts. That is usually 7-10 days after planting. The corn popping off the cob is not germination. Hope this clears up your thoughts.
The best time to flood is right before the ducks you want to shoot arrive. Otherwise the Coots and lesser wanted species will hurt your food supply.
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:22 am
by aunt betty
MuddyWaterWarlock wrote:aunt betty wrote:Having actually hunted over flooded corn since the seventies qualifies me to comment on the subject. They flood the corn here at the end of October and it germinates around duck-o-clock. Right on scedule. Our season starts very soon after the corn gets flooded.
About two to three weeks later, the mallards come through in a good year.
I have walked into these fields when other hunters insisted the corn was gone. I stood in knee deep water looking at empty cobs. Then after I stood still...looked down and it was gold everywhere. No corn my ass. Set up and killed ducks. lol
The corn germinated and popped off the cobs by itself.
Betty, the term germination is for when the plant sprouts. That is usually 7-10 days after planting. The corn popping off the cob is not germination. Hope this clears up your thoughts.
The best time to flood is right before the ducks you want to shoot arrive. Otherwise the Coots and lesser wanted species will hurt your food supply.
This is personal. You are a douchebag.
Hey douche, when a seeds sprouts roots...what is it called?
Re: Flooding corn

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Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:24 am
by BrewGUN
aunt betty wrote:MuddyWaterWarlock wrote:aunt betty wrote:Having actually hunted over flooded corn since the seventies qualifies me to comment on the subject. They flood the corn here at the end of October and it germinates around duck-o-clock. Right on scedule. Our season starts very soon after the corn gets flooded.
About two to three weeks later, the mallards come through in a good year.
I have walked into these fields when other hunters insisted the corn was gone. I stood in knee deep water looking at empty cobs. Then after I stood still...looked down and it was gold everywhere. No corn my ass. Set up and killed ducks. lol
The corn germinated and popped off the cobs by itself.
Betty, the term germination is for when the plant sprouts. That is usually 7-10 days after planting. The corn popping off the cob is not germination. Hope this clears up your thoughts.
The best time to flood is right before the ducks you want to shoot arrive. Otherwise the Coots and lesser wanted species will hurt your food supply.
This is personal. You are a douchebag.
Hey douche, when a seeds sprouts roots...what is it called?
Damn you are an idiot. Fuck you.
Red river flowing?
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:05 am
by Tomkat
AB, you do know that calling people names is not the best way to make friends, right?
Warlock is a good dude, calling him names is uncalled for and I am embarrassed for you.
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:34 am
by MuddyWaterWarlock
aunt betty wrote:MuddyWaterWarlock wrote:aunt betty wrote:Having actually hunted over flooded corn since the seventies qualifies me to comment on the subject. They flood the corn here at the end of October and it germinates around duck-o-clock. Right on scedule. Our season starts very soon after the corn gets flooded.
About two to three weeks later, the mallards come through in a good year.
I have walked into these fields when other hunters insisted the corn was gone. I stood in knee deep water looking at empty cobs. Then after I stood still...looked down and it was gold everywhere. No corn my ass. Set up and killed ducks. lol
The corn germinated and popped off the cobs by itself.
Betty, the term germination is for when the plant sprouts. That is usually 7-10 days after planting. The corn popping off the cob is not germination. Hope this clears up your thoughts.
The best time to flood is right before the ducks you want to shoot arrive. Otherwise the Coots and lesser wanted species will hurt your food supply.
This is personal. You are a douchebag.
Hey douche, when a seeds sprouts roots...what is it called?
I don't in any way believe I deserved that. You are welcome to apologize.
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:34 pm
by one2many
i deleted my last response to him about it (thought i was being a dick to Betty)
Betty i dont think there is a chance in hell the corn would germinate is standing cold water!!!
Muddy didnt need to be treated that way!
i have become used to having you around Betty, now stop being a dick.
roll up a spliff and relax bro

Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:52 pm
by Mornin Beef
I thought AB's post was spot on and I believe Mudlock had it coming. Just my two cents.
Re: Flooding corn

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Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:20 pm
by MuddyWaterWarlock
Mornin Beef wrote:I thought AB's post was spot on and I believe Mudlock had it coming. Just my two cents.
For what?
Re: Flooding corn

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Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:29 pm
by Bootlipkiller
MuddyWaterWarlock wrote:Mornin Beef wrote:I thought AB's post was spot on and I believe Mudlock had it coming. Just my two cents.
For what?
Being born!

Seriously though I think MB is just trying to stir it up.
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:37 pm
by MuddyWaterWarlock
Bootlipkiller wrote:MuddyWaterWarlock wrote:Mornin Beef wrote:I thought AB's post was spot on and I believe Mudlock had it coming. Just my two cents.
For what?
Being born!

Seriously though I think MB is just trying to stir it up.
I think so too. My WFF hit list is growing though.
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:38 pm
by Bootlipkiller
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:48 pm
by Mornin Beef
I forgot the point I was going to make. It was groundbreaking so I'll probably remember later. Stay tuned.
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:52 pm
by Bootlipkiller
Mornin Beef wrote:I forgot the point I was going to make. It was groundbreaking so I'll probably remember later. Stay tuned.
In the meantime watch out for stingrays.
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:17 pm
by NuffDaddy
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:35 am
by GadwallGetter530
KC KONG wrote:Anyone know the regulations in Missouri for maybe harvesting strips of the corn? or pumping out of a creek/river? Can you broadcast smart weed or millet or does it have to be drilled?
You can broadcast smartweed and millet. I think its easier then drilling.
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:44 am
by GadwallGetter530
GadwallGetter530 wrote:KC KONG wrote:Anyone know the regulations in Missouri for maybe harvesting strips of the corn? or pumping out of a creek/river? Can you broadcast smart weed or millet or does it have to be drilled?
You can broadcast smartweed and millet. I think its easier then drilling.
Who do you know that sells smart weed? I can use some of that at my place. I can't find a supplier.
Re: Flooding corn

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Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:02 am
by assateague
GadwallGetter530 wrote:GadwallGetter530 wrote:You can broadcast smartweed and millet. I think its easier then drilling.
Who do you know that sells smart weed? I can use some of that at my place. I can't find a supplier.
There for a minute- a long minute- I thought you were having an honest-to-God conversation with yourself. A "he may really be insane" crazy moment.
Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:05 am
by GadwallGetter530
assateague wrote:GadwallGetter530 wrote:GadwallGetter530 wrote:You can broadcast smartweed and millet. I think its easier then drilling.
Who do you know that sells smart weed? I can use some of that at my place. I can't find a supplier.
There for a minute- a long minute- I thought you were having an honest-to-God conversation with yourself. A "he may really be insane" crazy moment.
I can see how you thought that.

Re: Flooding corn

Posted:
Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:35 pm
by aunt betty
For years the state maintained and then flooded corn crops at many of the public venues I hunted. In bad years we wouod get either nothing or tons of weeds. Looking back...the weedy years were the best. Seeds floating everywhere. Rough on hunters and gear but damn...the ducks.
The year your bags get covered in them damned two-prong burs are usually kick-ass.
They call it moist soil management now. It means they basically gave up on planting row crops.
Much of the public hunting for waterfowl is very poor for farming due to marginal flooding.
We deal with it. Scout. Find birds or not.
Re: Flooding corn

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Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:51 pm
by 3legged_lab
This thread was gold and I can't believe I didn't open it sooner.
Maybe its "winter corn" that germinates in October.
Re: Flooding corn

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Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:14 pm
by Tiler_J
3legged_lab wrote:This thread was gold and I can't believe I didn't open it sooner.
Maybe its "winter corn" that germinates in October.
Only when you grow indoor! That's where the money is, right AB?! No one wants outdoor... Oh, we are still talking corn, never mind.
Re: Flooding corn

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Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:58 pm
by rebelp74
Tiler_J wrote:3legged_lab wrote:This thread was gold and I can't believe I didn't open it sooner.
Maybe its "winter corn" that germinates in October.
Only when you grow indoor! That's where the money is, right AB?! No one wants outdoor... Oh, we are still talking corn, never mind.
Some outdoor can be good shit, depends on care and maintenance. The best is indoor hydroponic.