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are eligible for unemployment benefits during the shutdown.

Unemployment money comes from the government.

How the fuck is the government saving any money during a shutdown if workers are being payed anyways?

Can someone explain this to me please.

yes, the government is saving money because...



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Can't collect benefits for the first week and then you get like 200 every two weeks got to be saving something.

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realunlucky wrote:Can't collect benefits for the first week and then you get like 200 every two weeks got to be saving something.

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200 every two weeks seems pretty low

In economics this morning the professor said that a bill has been produced that says that all government workers will receive their owed back pay if it is passed.


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realunlucky wrote:Can't collect benefits for the first week and then you get like 200 every two weeks got to be saving something.

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200 every two weeks seems pretty low

Max NYS unemployment is $430 per week...bring home.

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The Duck Hammer wrote:In economics this morning the professor said that a bill has been produced that says that all government workers will receive their owed back pay if it is passed.


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i think thats how it has gone other times. they need to get their asses in gear. how they been operating with out a budget the last several years i will never understand. you smart people help me out here, it is law to have a budget each and every year right??

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one2many wrote:

realunlucky wrote:Can't collect benefits for the first week and then you get like 200 every two weeks got to be saving something.

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200 every two weeks seems pretty low

Max NYS unemployment is $430 per week...bring home.

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that sounds more like it.

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The Duck Hammer wrote:In economics this morning the professor said that a bill has been produced that says that all government workers will receive their owed back pay if it is passed.


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i think thats how it has gone other times. they need to get their asses in gear. how they been operating with out a budget the last several years i will never understand. you smart people help me out here, it is law to have a budget each and every year right??

Not real big into that side of things but the professor said it is impossible for them to passes a budget because Medicare is always an unknown factor. It's really a bunch of bs, I don't understand why they can't just sit down and figure shit out. Did you know that is required by law that members of congress get paid even during a government shutdown? Wonder who passed that.


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Yes it is a law that they pass a budget but they haven't since 2009.

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one2many wrote:

The Duck Hammer wrote:In economics this morning the professor said that a bill has been produced that says that all government workers will receive their owed back pay if it is passed.


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i think thats how it has gone other times. they need to get their asses in gear. how they been operating with out a budget the last several years i will never understand. you smart people help me out here, it is law to have a budget each and every year right??

Not real big into that side of things but the professor said it is impossible for them to passes a budget because Medicare is always an unknown factor. It's really a bunch of bs, I don't understand why they can't just sit down and figure shit out. Did you know that is required by law that members of congress get paid even during a government shutdown? Wonder who passed that.


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of course they are going to get paid. fucking assholes

Olly wrote:Yes it is a law that they pass a budget but they haven't since 2009.

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thats what i thought Olly , thanks

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The Duck Hammer wrote:

one2many wrote:

The Duck Hammer wrote:In economics this morning the professor said that a bill has been produced that says that all government workers will receive their owed back pay if it is passed.


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i think thats how it has gone other times. they need to get their asses in gear. how they been operating with out a budget the last several years i will never understand. you smart people help me out here, it is law to have a budget each and every year right??

Not real big into that side of things but the professor said it is impossible for them to passes a budget because Medicare is always an unknown factor. It's really a bunch of bs, I don't understand why they can't just sit down and figure shit out. Did you know that is required by law that members of congress get paid even during a government shutdown? Wonder who passed that.


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of course they are going to get paid. fucking assholes

Take a look at this.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/10/politics/shutdown-congress-paychecks/index.html



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you all hear the bullshit with the two Honor Flights the other day?
one out of iowa and one out of mississippi. fuckers had rent a cops and barricades blocking the way in to the WWII memorial.
Steve King, U.S. Representative for Iowa's 4th congressional district. got them all in. he distracted a park cops so that the vets could stream in.

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one2many wrote:

The Duck Hammer wrote:

one2many wrote:

The Duck Hammer wrote:In economics this morning the professor said that a bill has been produced that says that all government workers will receive their owed back pay if it is passed.


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i think thats how it has gone other times. they need to get their asses in gear. how they been operating with out a budget the last several years i will never understand. you smart people help me out here, it is law to have a budget each and every year right??

Not real big into that side of things but the professor said it is impossible for them to passes a budget because Medicare is always an unknown factor. It's really a bunch of bs, I don't understand why they can't just sit down and figure shit out. Did you know that is required by law that members of congress get paid even during a government shutdown? Wonder who passed that.


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of course they are going to get paid. fucking assholes

Take a look at this.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/10/politics/shutdown-congress-paychecks/index.html



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i heard a bunch was donating their salary. most hem fuckers are rich enough not to need a paycheck from us

The Duck Hammer wrote:In economics this morning the professor said that a bill has been produced that says that all government workers will receive their owed back pay if it is passed.


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This is buuuuuuuuullllshit.

If you don't work, you don't get paid. Period. Save the "poor government employees just trying to do their jobs, and feed their families". Yes, so is everyone else in the private sector. When you get laid off because your company mismanaged their business, you don't get paid. It sucks, but it's life. I'm sick and fucking tired of "the government" being different than the rest of us. You aren't special. Your sob stories aren't sobbier. Your kids aren't hungrier. Suck it up and drive on. Get another job or don't, I frankly don't give a shit. But DO NOT expect me to foot the bill for you doing jack squat. It's bad enough I have to pay for so much shit in the first place.

And for those who say "I wish they'd do their job and work it out", not this guy. Keep it shut down. The longer the better. I want NO compromise which sacrifices the principles this country was built on. If some guy says "If you don't let me burn your house down, I'm going to rape your wife", I don't compromise. It's a shoot out, and one of us ain't going to make it. But if he wants to burn my house down or rape my wife, he's going through me first. I don't understand what is wrong with this mentality, but it damn sure is viewed as "wrong", and "compromise" is the ultimate end goal. No, fuck that. Your principles should be the end goal.

And for the record, government employees are paid far better, and receive far better benefits than their private sector equivalents. So you know what? Fuck them. Sorry about your luck.

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The Duck Hammer wrote:In economics this morning the professor said that a bill has been produced that says that all government workers will receive their owed back pay if it is passed.


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This is buuuuuuuuullllshit.

If you don't work, you don't get paid. Period. Save the "poor government employees just trying to do their jobs, and feed their families". Yes, so is everyone else in the private sector. When you get laid off because your company mismanaged their business, you don't get paid. It sucks, but it's life. I'm sick and fucking tired of "the government" being different than the rest of us. You aren't special. Your sob stories aren't sobbier. Your kids aren't hungrier. Suck it up and drive on. Get another job or don't, I frankly don't give a shit. But DO NOT expect me to foot the bill for you doing jack squat. It's bad enough I have to pay for so much shit in the first place.

And for those who say "I wish they'd do their job and work it out", not this guy. Keep it shut down. The longer the better. I want NO compromise which sacrifices the principles this country was built on. If some guy says "If you don't let me burn your house down, I'm going to rape your wife", I don't compromise. It's a shoot out, and one of us ain't going to make it. But if he wants to burn my house down or rape my wife, he's going through me first. I don't understand what is wrong with this mentality, but it damn sure is viewed as "wrong", and "compromise" is the ultimate end goal. No, fuck that. Your principles should be the end goal.

I HAVE to report to work by UCMJ law.... but if I go without pay for around 5 or 6 months I would be dead in the water. I could possibly make it another 4 months if I sell my four wheeler, boat, and project truck. Everyone in my office is confident that this will be resolved before the 15th but I'm not so sure. I'm stepping up efforts to sell my four wheeler right now.

assateague wrote:

The Duck Hammer wrote:In economics this morning the professor said that a bill has been produced that says that all government workers will receive their owed back pay if it is passed.


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This is buuuuuuuuullllshit.

If you don't work, you don't get paid. Period. Save the "poor government employees just trying to do their jobs, and feed their families". Yes, so is everyone else in the private sector. When you get laid off because your company mismanaged their business, you don't get paid. It sucks, but it's life. I'm sick and fucking tired of "the government" being different than the rest of us. You aren't special. Your sob stories aren't sobbier. Your kids aren't hungrier. Suck it up and drive on. Get another job or don't, I frankly don't give a shit. But DO NOT expect me to foot the bill for you doing jack squat. It's bad enough I have to pay for so much shit in the first place.

And for those who say "I wish they'd do their job and work it out", not this guy. Keep it shut down. The longer the better. I want NO compromise which sacrifices the principles this country was built on. If some guy says "If you don't let me burn your house down, I'm going to rape your wife", I don't compromise. It's a shoot out, and one of us ain't going to make it. But if he wants to burn my house down or rape my wife, he's going through me first. I don't understand what is wrong with this mentality, but it damn sure is viewed as "wrong", and "compromise" is the ultimate end goal. No, fuck that. Your principles should be the end goal.

I'm just the messenger on this deal. If they want to get paid take it out of their vacation. If they won't give it up, they should get nuthin.


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I wasn't busting your chops, Hammer. Just in general. When I heard this this morning, I started wigging out. I'm just so damn tired of paying over $600 every two weeks in taxes, just to pay for a bunch of bullshit.

And Olly, you know I'm not talking about the military. I'm talking about federal bureaucracy. I'll give you $150 for the quad. Or you can just bring it and your duck boat and come here for the season. They ain't paying, you ain't working.

I hope they get this shit taken care of. This is the first time I've been through a shutdown and it's not a good feeling.... Definitely makes me rethink my choice of employment.

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I was in in '95 when it shutdown, and it really didn't make much of a difference after about the first 4 days or so. By then, everybody was used to it. The biggest bitch of all was that more soldiers had to pull KP, because the civilian workers in the chow halls were gone. Oh well.

assateague wrote:

The Duck Hammer wrote:In economics this morning the professor said that a bill has been produced that says that all government workers will receive their owed back pay if it is passed.


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This is buuuuuuuuullllshit.

If you don't work, you don't get paid. Period. Save the "poor government employees just trying to do their jobs, and feed their families". Yes, so is everyone else in the private sector. When you get laid off because your company mismanaged their business, you don't get paid. It sucks, but it's life. I'm sick and fucking tired of "the government" being different than the rest of us. You aren't special. Your sob stories aren't sobbier. Your kids aren't hungrier. Suck it up and drive on. Get another job or don't, I frankly don't give a shit. But DO NOT expect me to foot the bill for you doing jack squat. It's bad enough I have to pay for so much shit in the first place.

And for those who say "I wish they'd do their job and work it out", not this guy. Keep it shut down. The longer the better. I want NO compromise which sacrifices the principles this country was built on. If some guy says "If you don't let me burn your house down, I'm going to rape your wife", I don't compromise. It's a shoot out, and one of us ain't going to make it. But if he wants to burn my house down or rape my wife, he's going through me first. I don't understand what is wrong with this mentality, but it damn sure is viewed as "wrong", and "compromise" is the ultimate end goal. No, fuck that. Your principles should be the end goal.

Fucking A right

assateague wrote:I was in in '95 when it shutdown, and it really didn't make much of a difference after about the first 4 days or so. By then, everybody was used to it. The biggest bitch of all was that more soldiers had to pull KP, because the civilian workers in the chow halls were gone. Oh well.

95 was the last time it happened right? If I remember right, you missed a full paycheck?

It was for 21 days.

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Olly wrote:It was for 21 days.

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Yeah that's what I meant, 2 week pay period was skipped. Remember a couple of my sups telling me about it.

I don't recall missing one. Maybe I did, but I only got monthly pay, not bi-weekly, so that might have been why. I do remember we we had a 4 day weekend and went up to Mt. Rainier National Park camping. Just parked, climbed the gate, and camped where we wanted. Had as big of a fire as we damn well pleased, too. Was very peaceful without a bunch of dickhead park rangers pissing on your fun.

assateague wrote:I don't recall missing one. Maybe I did, but I only got monthly pay, not bi-weekly, so that might have been why. I do remember we we had a 4 day weekend and went up to Mt. Rainier National Park camping. Just parked, climbed the gate, and camped where we wanted. Had as big of a fire as we damn well pleased, too. Was very peaceful without a bunch of dickhead park rangers pissing on your fun.

Probably get arrested or shot for that now

olly if you were tryn to sell ur 4 weeler any way that,s cool but if it,s it,s over a pay prob ill kick you a few buck,s till we when the hellever ret U.S.M.C understand broke bud