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On 16 January 2012 in an accident while proximity flying off Table Mountain, Cape Town, South Africa Jeb broke both ankles, three toes, his fibula bone, tore his left ACL, and sustained a gash in his shin that required skin grafts to close. He struck his legs approximately halfway between the hip and knee on a rock ledge he was attempting to skim over while aiming at a target balloon. The impact caused him to tumble forward one revolution before he regained control in order to clear some additional ledges. He then deployed his chute. He was airlifted out by the Red Cross Air Mercy Service Agusta 119. He has recovered, is up and walking and plans to return to life as usual. A video of the accident has been released.[8][9]

Can't say I'm shocked.

assateague wrote:Can't say I'm shocked.

It's not really much different than any of us drowning, getting hypothermia, or having a firearm accident.

All I can say is OUCH!

duckkillerclyde wrote:

assateague wrote:Can't say I'm shocked.

It's not really much different than any of us drowning, getting hypothermia, or having a firearm accident.

Sure it is, because I don't wear steel waders, shorts in a snowstorm, or play Russian roulette. What he does, while entertaining, certainly isn't the epitome of "careful".

assateague wrote:Sure it is, because I don't wear steel waders, shorts in a snowstorm, or play Russian roulette. What he does, while entertaining, certainly isn't the epitome of "careful".

But what about these?

assateague wrote: there have been days when the wind and tide was ripping against me, and I was wide open at a crawl......... I don't get blown all the way across the bay.

assateague wrote:I have entirely too much confidence in that thing. About half the times I went out last year were during small craft advisories on the bay, and once during a gale.There was no way I could have videoed that day, with all the spray and wind. (and for the record, that was one of those times I was referring to when wanting a bigger motor)

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I don't see any difference in what he does for fun and what waterfowlers do for fun.

To each his own.

The bay is 4' deep, for the most part. I have a life jacket and neoprene waders. I don't seek out adrenaline, it's just a necessary evil. I see a huge difference between what he does and what we do.

If, on the other hand, I chose to wear a Speedo in December, while taking the hybrid across the Chesapeake in a gale with a 125 HP motor strapped to the back, with a loaded chambered safety-off shotgun barrel in my mouth, then yes, they would be remarkably similar. But I don't.

assateague wrote:The bay is 4' deep, for the most part. I have a life jacket and neoprene waders. I don't seek out adrenaline, it's just a necessary evil. I see a huge difference between what he does and what we do.

If, on the other hand, I chose to wear a Speedo in December, while taking the hybrid across the Chesapeake in a gale with a 125 HP motor strapped to the back, with a loaded chambered safety-off shotgun barrel in my mouth, then yes, they would be remarkably similar. But I don't.

game, set, match

Please, no video.

Saw this a few months ago. He got what he was asking for.

I still think it'd be fun to try that.

duckkillerclyde wrote:

assateague wrote:Sure it is, because I don't wear steel waders, shorts in a snowstorm, or play Russian roulette. What he does, while entertaining, certainly isn't the epitome of "careful".

But what about these?

assateague wrote: there have been days when the wind and tide was ripping against me, and I was wide open at a crawl......... I don't get blown all the way across the bay.

assateague wrote:I have entirely too much confidence in that thing. About half the times I went out last year were during small craft advisories on the bay, and once during a gale.There was no way I could have videoed that day, with all the spray and wind. (and for the record, that was one of those times I was referring to when wanting a bigger motor)

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I don't see any difference in what he does for fun and what waterfowlers do for fun.

To each his own.

Holy chit you're weird.

Flightstopper wrote:

assateague wrote:The bay is 4' deep, for the most part. I have a life jacket and neoprene waders. I don't seek out adrenaline, it's just a necessary evil. I see a huge difference between what he does and what we do.

If, on the other hand, I chose to wear a Speedo in December, while taking the hybrid across the Chesapeake in a gale with a 125 HP motor strapped to the back, with a loaded chambered safety-off shotgun barrel in my mouth, then yes, they would be remarkably similar. But I don't.

game, set, match

You're right flightstopper, it's ridiculous to think that you can get hypothermia in 4' of water.

David died late Wednesday afternoon while hunting brant on Tillamook Bay with Worth Mathewson. He was chasing a crippled bird in his Marsh rat when a gale pushed him out of sight. Worth swamped twice getting back to the big boat, then grounded on the falling tide. David was wearing a lifejacket, but at some point was swamped and swept down to the rocks at Barview, where rescuers, including the Coast Guard, found him. Body temp was down to 80 and he couldn't be revived despite a long attempt on the way to and in the hospital. Worth nearly did the same frantically trying to cross the bay to the Coast Guard station in his own Marsh rat (the big boat was still grounded late last night).

Boys and his son lived about 5 miles away from me. Now it is just the son.

Boys Sr. was wearing a life jacket, neoprene waders, proper hunting attire for where he was, the water was shallow, (tide was out, that's why the tender boat couldn't get him. It was stuck).

Flightstopper wrote:
game, set, match

cold water, wet, hypothermia, die.


I spoke to one of Boys's best friends Friday night at the OWF. I personally didn't know him.

To think you are above death because the water is only 4' deep is absurd.

duckkillerclyde wrote:

Flightstopper wrote:
game, set, match

cold water, wet, hypothermia, die.


I spoke to one of Boys's best friends Friday night at the OWF. I personally didn't know him.

To think you are above death because the water is only 4' deep is absurd.

To classify the actions in the same category is absurd. Falling from the sky, skimming trees and ledges trying to get ever closer and closer and driving a boat across a bay in the wind are very different. Yes, both have very dangerous consequences; however the probability of these consequences are very far apart. You could die in 1ft of water, but the chances for survival are pretty good if you can keep your head above the water to get out and get help. If something goes wrong while squirrel suiting (I made that term up, but I'm going with it), there is very little margin for error that the consequences won't be catastrophic.

duckkillerclyde wrote:

Flightstopper wrote:
game, set, match

cold water, wet, hypothermia, die.


I spoke to one of Boys's best friends Friday night at the OWF. I personally didn't know him.

To think you are above death because the water is only 4' deep is absurd.

At what point did I say "above death"? If 4' deep water and 120 mph 12 inches above rocks are the same thing to you, then that's just foolish. Am I in as much danger driving my Jeep 10 mph in my driveway or driving a race car 200 mph inches away from 42 other cars? We both know the answer to that question.

Does "cold water, wet, hypothermia, die" apply to 6" deep water? What about 15" deep water? 30' deep water? To act as if there aren't varying degrees of danger is, frankly, just dumb.

assateague wrote:
Does "cold water, wet, hypothermia, die" apply to 6" deep water? What about 15" deep water? 30' deep water? To act as if there aren't varying degrees of danger is, frankly, just dumb.

absolutely it does.

assateague wrote:
At what point did I say "above death"?

Never said you did. Just pointing out the obvious.

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[quote]If 4' deep water and 120 mph 12 inches above rocks are the same thing to you,[/quote]

I'm saying that there are risks involved with both BASE jumping and waterfowl hunting. It's 'dumb' to think there is not any life threatening risks associated with waterfowl hunting.


It's dumb to suggest that since the bay is only 4' deep you can't get hypothermia.

JLO;

If you don't duck hunt for adrenaline (aka fun) why do you do it?

duckkillerclyde wrote:JLO;

If you don't duck hunt for adrenaline (aka fun) why do you do it?

For fun, not adrenalin. Same reason I tend a garden, browse online forums, and fish. For enjoyment. I despise adrenalin. It's a useful tool, but not something which should be sought after. That's a sucker's bet.

I shoot ducks because they are vicious mean little bastards that would kill you if they had the chance!

I'm mad at em!

Westie25 wrote:I'm mad at em!

So is every other duck hunter after the first week, lol

Tiler_J wrote:I shoot ducks because they are vicious mean little bastards that would kill you if they had the chance!

X2!!!! This one's doing crazy ninja stuff!

Check this one out. I like this guy. No doubt he'll die some day doing what he loves, but who doesn't want that?

Any of you guys ever drag race your street car? I cheated death a couple times when I was young and dumb.
Blame it on my A.D.D. baaayyby.

hotrodtoad wrote:

I like this guy. No doubt he'll die some day doing what he loves, but who doesn't want that?

Any of you guys ever drag race your street car? I cheated death a couple times when I was young and dumb.

Die doing what he loves? Where do you get the idea that he loves smashing into rocks?

It's part of the game Clyde. Just like hitting the wall in NASCAR or getting cold and wet duck hunting.

Weren't you the one making the comparisons?

hotrodtoad wrote:Weren't you the one making the comparisons?

in the spirit of a good arguement on the internet, he plays on both sides

hotrodtoad wrote:It's part of the game Clyde. Just like hitting the wall in NASCAR or getting cold and wet duck hunting.

Weren't you the one making the comparisons?

Yes I was making the comparison.

To say that a guy who died duck hunting due to hypothermia died doing what he loved to do, would be incorrect. I think most people who die from hypothermia, die cold, wet, and scared.

I think most everyone dies scared no matter how they die. I think I'd rather be scared dying while doing something I love than laying in a parking lot having been run over or having a heart attack. You won't have to worry about it Clyde. Your not gonna die, you'll just get flushed.