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Postby ea oneal » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:15 am

im at my shop,and the sister in law call,s and asked if her boy can stay with me for the day . he,s out of school today. why his teacher,s are have a day for training . what? seem,s like this would have been done on the break for summer , but no !! i was talking to his mom and was shocked to hear all the day,s school is out for bullshit, yet teacher,s want more money!! this kid is in 6th grade and is common sense smart . but if you ask him about history,current event,s or simple math dumb as a rock!! and he think,s very well. but from what i see no one is teaching him shit . i hear it,s up to his parent,s to {be a large part of the learning exsperience ] what!!! . ok you can't fix stupid, but ignorant ? i was under the impression that was what kid,s went to school for. :tk:
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Re: really?

Postby assateague » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:37 am

Here, the teachers have off at least one day a month during the school year, in addition to any holidays. No shit.
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Re: really?

Postby 3legged_lab » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:38 am

You should spend the day giving him keyboard lessons.
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Re: really?

Postby assateague » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:39 am

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Re: really?

Postby The Duck Hammer » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:46 am

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Re: really?

Postby ea oneal » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:54 am

3legged_lab wrote:You should spend the day giving him keyboard lessons.

i wonder if it,s more important to know how to type real pretty or do math ? seem; to me my key bord skill,s did not effect me much as i was able to make 65,000 out a 2 bay out board shop last year . back to that im smarter than u crap .if typing is real important to you cool .i type sort like i talk . most of the people who im around hand,s get dirty at work .we like it that way and try to keep distance from those who don't. it,s a bitch to have to hide your billfold .
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Re: really?

Postby assateague » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:04 am

These are jokes, you know.
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Re: really?

Postby assateague » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:05 am

A working man should certainly understand the concept of "busting balls"
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Re: really?

Postby ea oneal » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:19 am

assateague wrote:A working man should certainly understand the concept of "busting balls"

i do !!!you can't tell!!!! ol pard im to damn old and to damn smart to give a rat,s you know what most people think . im ret and work at the house,and have wayyyy more work than i want. speaking of that better do some . good day to all,have faith ,have fun!
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Re: really?

Postby 3legged_lab » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:37 am

ea oneal wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:You should spend the day giving him keyboard lessons.

i wonder if it,s more important to know how to type real pretty or do math ? seem; to me my key bord skill,s did not effect me much as i was able to make 65,000 out a 2 bay out board shop last year . back to that im smarter than u crap .if typing is real important to you cool .i type sort like i talk . most of the people who im around hand,s get dirty at work .we like it that way and try to keep distance from those who don't. it,s a bitch to have to hide your billfold .

I'm just giving you a hard time oneal, it generally means you've been accepted here. You've got to admit it was the perfect setup.
Btw, I'm typing the way I talk and I work with my hands too.
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Re: really?

Postby assateague » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:38 am

ea oneal wrote:
assateague wrote:A working man should certainly understand the concept of "busting balls"

i do !!!you can't tell!!!! ol pard im to damn old and to damn smart to give a rat,s you know what most people think . im ret and work at the house,and have wayyyy more work than i want. speaking of that better do some . good day to all,have faith ,have fun!



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Re: really?

Postby Woody » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:51 am

3legged_lab wrote:
ea oneal wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:You should spend the day giving him keyboard lessons.

i wonder if it,s more important to know how to type real pretty or do math ? seem; to me my key bord skill,s did not effect me much as i was able to make 65,000 out a 2 bay out board shop last year . back to that im smarter than u crap .if typing is real important to you cool .i type sort like i talk . most of the people who im around hand,s get dirty at work .we like it that way and try to keep distance from those who don't. it,s a bitch to have to hide your billfold .

I'm just giving you a hard time oneal, it generally means you've been accepted here. You've got to admit it was the perfect setup.
Btw, I'm typing the way I talk and I work with my hands too.


So, does he talk with commas instead of apostrophes?
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Re: really?

Postby Goldfish » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:05 am

Woody wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:
ea oneal wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:You should spend the day giving him keyboard lessons.

i wonder if it,s more important to know how to type real pretty or do math ? seem; to me my key bord skill,s did not effect me much as i was able to make 65,000 out a 2 bay out board shop last year . back to that im smarter than u crap .if typing is real important to you cool .i type sort like i talk . most of the people who im around hand,s get dirty at work .we like it that way and try to keep distance from those who don't. it,s a bitch to have to hide your billfold .

I'm just giving you a hard time oneal, it generally means you've been accepted here. You've got to admit it was the perfect setup.
Btw, I'm typing the way I talk and I work with my hands too.


So, does he talk with commas instead of apostrophes?

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Re: really?

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:15 am

oneal, my girlfriend is a teacher so i get to see a tiny bit of what goes on on their side (doesn't mean i know it all). my observations are that a teacher is one person who's job is to instruct ~150 kids throughout a day. They could probably do that, if they weren't constantly being interrupted by little shitheads who can't shut up. they end up spending probably an average of an hour and 20 minutes out of a 6.5 hour school day trying to get students on track. take into account lunch and it's only 6 hours of education time, then take into account that they move classes every 50 minutes, so in reality kids only spend 5 hours a day learning, but wait, we still need to account for discipline time, so subtract 1.33 hours, so kids actually only get 3.6 hours of beneficial classroom time. Teachers have those inservice days to meet as a staff to make decisions for the school and other things, most teachers would rather not have inservice days but it's a time to get things done. sometimes they have those days to gain credits for their continued education that they have to update every 5 years or lose their license. not sure about other teachers but currently my girlfriend often stays up until well past midnight grading papers, this is nearly every night, so she's logging 8+ hours outside of school unpaid to get work taken care of.


and yeah, when you look at how dumb most kids are, it's because they don't learn anything in school, because the system is fucked up. teachers want more money because there aren't enough teachers out there. the ones that are out there have class sizes that are absolutely unmanageable and not conducive to a learning environment. also, a lot of parents out there today just have a total disconnect to their kid's life.

as i said, these are just my very limited observations. i think smaller class sizes alone would help quite a bit in more effective education.
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Re: really?

Postby RonE » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:18 pm

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:oneal, my girlfriend is a teacher so i get to see a tiny bit of what goes on on their side (doesn't mean i know it all). my observations are that a teacher is one person who's job is to instruct ~150 kids throughout a day. They could probably do that, if they weren't constantly being interrupted by little shitheads who can't shut up. they end up spending probably an average of an hour and 20 minutes out of a 6.5 hour school day trying to get students on track. take into account lunch and it's only 6 hours of education time, then take into account that they move classes every 50 minutes, so in reality kids only spend 5 hours a day learning, but wait, we still need to account for discipline time, so subtract 1.33 hours, so kids actually only get 3.6 hours of beneficial classroom time. Teachers have those inservice days to meet as a staff to make decisions for the school and other things, most teachers would rather not have inservice days but it's a time to get things done. sometimes they have those days to gain credits for their continued education that they have to update every 5 years or lose their license. not sure about other teachers but currently my girlfriend often stays up until well past midnight grading papers, this is nearly every night, so she's logging 8+ hours outside of school unpaid to get work taken care of.


and yeah, when you look at how dumb most kids are, it's because they don't learn anything in school, because the system is fucked up. teachers want more money because there aren't enough teachers out there. the ones that are out there have class sizes that are absolutely unmanageable and not conducive to a learning environment. also, a lot of parents out there today just have a total disconnect to their kid's life.

as i said, these are just my very limited observations. i think smaller class sizes alone would help quite a bit in more effective education.


Teachers generally work 180-185 days a year. They typically get a week off at Thanksgiving and two weeks off for Christmas - New Year. With national and school holidays it is usually only once a year that teachers actually work a five day week for over 4 weeks at a stretch. Usually, teachers make as much or more than law enforcement personnel but they get usually 55-60 days a year for summer vacation. Teachers work days are usually 7 1/2 hours and contact time with students 250 - 300 minutes a day. A portion of the teachers that are supposed to teach our children are teaching only because they didn't know what else to do, they weren't the sharpest knife in the drawer when they went to school and the work is easy (because they don't have to produce) and the pay is actually pretty good for the benefits.

In California the magic numbers for retirement are age 60 with 30 years of teaching.

In non union and non tenure states or school districts, there is some pressure for teacher performance in order for teachers to keep their jobs. Pressure in union / tenure districts too but it takes years to dismiss a poor teacher in these districts. Teacher shortcomings are usually blamed on the students (a low group) or their parents (low socio-economic group) both of which are at least somewhat true but the best education seems to come with portions of the population that have high expectations (for children and teachers) and hold the school boards to higher standards and expectations.
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Re: really?

Postby ea oneal » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:24 pm

ya i get the tire,s thing just put new one,s on my ford lightning aint cheap. mt. also get what your point about your wife . but i myself am closer to ron.s point .we have a charter school in this town. it was a hell of a battle to get it. teacher,s unioun fought it all the way now it,s open we have about a50=50 split .kid,s in the charter do much better .why ?. low income kid,s in both. upper income kid,s in both. black,white bought 50=50 . i think it,s the fact if the teacher,s don't produce,. no job. in the other ,well hell if you show with clothe,s on sober no way to fire you. no incentive to do the job .for the most part sort of the dmv with kid,s. as for the thing about day,s off not a lot of job,s with all the perk,s, pay , and no performance requrment . well maybe politic,s
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Re: really?

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:17 pm

ea oneal wrote:ya i get the tire,s thing just put new one,s on my ford lightning aint cheap. mt. also get what your point about your wife . but i myself am closer to ron.s point .we have a charter school in this town. it was a hell of a battle to get it. teacher,s unioun fought it all the way now it,s open we have about a50=50 split .kid,s in the charter do much better .why ?. low income kid,s in both. upper income kid,s in both. black,white bought 50=50 . i think it,s the fact if the teacher,s don't produce,. no job. in the other ,well hell if you show with clothe,s on sober no way to fire you. no incentive to do the job .for the most part sort of the dmv with kid,s. as for the thing about day,s off not a lot of job,s with all the perk,s, pay , and no performance requrment . well maybe politic,s



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Re: really?

Postby ea oneal » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:07 pm

ok yall win !! ill not force my uncouth way,s upon your intellgence . truth be known getting to point like sitting in a room with a pissed off women some how some way your WRONG . :lol:
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Re: really?

Postby 3legged_lab » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:16 pm

ea oneal wrote: ill not force my uncouth way,s upon your intellgence .

I'm not picking on you, but this made me laugh uncontrollably.
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Re: really?

Postby 3legged_lab » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:16 pm

I seriously think I might've pee'd a little.
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Re: really?

Postby one2many » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:20 pm

3legged_lab wrote:I seriously think I might,ve pee,d a little.
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Re: really?

Postby 3legged_lab » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:22 pm

one2many wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:I seriously think I might,ve pee,d a little.

Exactly
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Re: really?

Postby one2many » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:24 pm

everyone forgets my keyboarding skills
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Re: really?

Postby The Duck Hammer » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:26 pm

one2many wrote:everyone forgets my keyboarding skills


Your quoting skills are magnificent...


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Re: really?

Postby one2many » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:32 pm

lmfao
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Re: really?

Postby capt1972 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:57 pm

ea oneal wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:You should spend the day giving him keyboard lessons.

i wonder if it,s more important to know how to type real pretty or do math ? seem; to me my key bord skill,s did not effect me much as i was able to make 65,000 out a 2 bay out board shop last year . back to that im smarter than u crap .if typing is real important to you cool .i type sort like i talk . most of the people who im around hand,s get dirty at work .we like it that way and try to keep distance from those who don't. it,s a bitch to have to hide your billfold .

you lost me at "i wonder"
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Re: really?

Postby ea oneal » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:08 pm

i think most were lost long ago. and as for the peeing , well maybe depend,s will work . but maybe that,s your kick .
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Re: really?

Postby Bulldog0156 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:17 pm

Hans Brix?
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Re: really?

Postby Feelin' Fowl » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:35 pm

The Duck Hammer wrote:
one2many wrote:everyone forgets my keyboarding skills


Your quoting skills are magnificent...


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Re: really?

Postby ea oneal » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:02 pm

the older i get the more i understand why my dad did not talk to some people. his word,s[ most of the time the one,s who talk smack on paper, you will feel sad for in person .so just read the word,s and move on some day the world will stop long enuff to scrape them off just like you would do after you step in shit.]
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