This stuff scares me.

Place for general and off topic Waterfowl talk.

This stuff scares me.

Postby Olly » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:29 am

Stuff like this scares the crap out of me.

Summary is cops got a warrant for a anal cavity search based on how a man was standing and he is sueing now.

This 4 On Your Side investigation looks into the actions of police officers and doctors in Southern New Mexico.

A review of medical records, police reports and a federal lawsuit show deputies with the Hidalgo County Sheriff's Office, police officers with the City of Deming and medical professionals at the Gila Regional Medical Center made some questionable decisions.

The incident began January 2, 2013 after David Eckert finished shopping at the Wal-Mart in Deming. According to a federal lawsuit, Eckert didn't make a complete stop at a stop sign coming out of the parking lot and was immediately stopped by law enforcement.

Eckert's attorney, Shannon Kennedy, said in an interview with KOB that after law enforcement asked him to step out of the vehicle, he appeared to be clenching his buttocks. Law enforcement thought that was probable cause to suspect that Eckert was hiding narcotics in his anal cavity. While officers detained Eckert, they secured a search warrant from a judge that allowed for an anal cavity search.

The lawsuit claims that Deming Police tried taking Eckert to an emergency room in Deming, but a doctor there refused to perform the anal cavity search citing it was "unethical."

But physicians at the Gila Regional Medical Center in Silver City agreed to perform the procedure and a few hours later, Eckert was admitted.

What Happened

While there, Eckert was subjected to repeated and humiliating forced medical procedures. A review of Eckert's medical records, which he released to KOB, and details in the lawsuit show the following happened:

1. Eckert's abdominal area was x-rayed; no narcotics were found.

2. Doctors then performed an exam of Eckert's anus with their fingers; no narcotics were found.

3. Doctors performed a second exam of Eckert's anus with their fingers; no narcotics were found.

4. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.

5. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema a second time. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.

6. Doctors penetrated Eckert's anus to insert an enema a third time. Eckert was forced to defecate in front of doctors and police officers. Eckert watched as doctors searched his stool. No narcotics were found.

7. Doctors then x-rayed Eckert again; no narcotics were found.

8. Doctors prepared Eckert for surgery, sedated him, and then performed a colonoscopy where a scope with a camera was inserted into Eckert's anus, rectum, colon, and large intestines. No narcotics were found.

Throughout this ordeal, Eckert protested and never gave doctors at the Gila Regional Medical Center consent to perform any of these medical procedures.

"If the officers in Hidalgo County and the City of Deming are seeking warrants for anal cavity searches based on how they're standing and the warrant allows doctors at the Gila Hospital of Horrors to go in and do enemas and colonoscopies without consent, then anyone can be seized and that's why the public needs to know about this," Kennedy said.

Search Warrant Concerns

There are major concerns about the way the search warrant was carried out. Kennedy argues that the search warrant was overly broad and lacked probable cause. But beyond that, the warrant was only valid in Luna County, where Deming is located. The Gila Regional Medical Center is in Grant County. That means all of the medical procedures were performed illegally and the doctors who performed the procedures did so with no legal basis and no consent from the patient.

In addition, even if the search warrant was executed in the correct New Mexico county, the warrant expired at 10 p.m. Medical records show the prepping for the colonoscopy started at 1 a.m. the following day, three hours after the warrant expired.

"This is like something out of a science fiction film, anal probing by government officials and public employees," Kennedy said.

No Comment

KOB reached out to the attorneys representing the defendants in the lawsuit and all declined to comment on the situation. The attorneys said it's their personal policy not comment on pending litigation.

4 On Your Side Investigative Reporter Chris Ramirez cornered Deming Police Chief Brandon Gigante.

"As the police chief what reassurances could you give people when they come through your town that they won't be violated or abused by your police officers?" Ramirez asked Chief Gigante.

"We follow the law in every aspect and we follow policies and protocols that we have in place," Chief Gigante replied.

"Do you think those officers in this particular case did that?" Ramirez asked.

Gigante didn't answer, instead he referred Ramirez to his attorney.

The Lawsuit

David Eckert is suing The City of Deming and Deming Police Officers Bobby Orosco, Robert Chavez and Officer Hernandez.

Eckert is also suing Hidalgo County Hidalgo County Deputies David Arredondo, Robert Rodriguez and Patrick Green.

Eckert is also suing Deputy District Attorney Daniel Dougherty and the Gila Regional Medical Center including Robert Wilcox, M.D and Okay Odocha, M.D.


http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s3209305.shtml
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ― Samuel Adams
User avatar
Olly
WFF Administrator
 
Posts: 15522
Joined: Wed May 30, 2012 9:05 am

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby aunt betty » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:39 am

What did he do? Ran a stopsign that legally does not exist. Parking lot stop signs are not legally documented. Fact

sent from my fancy phone that has a really cool kickstand via tapaskwawk
I've heard that it's incredibly stupid to fuck around with a crazy man's head.
User avatar
aunt betty
 
Posts: 14634
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:37 pm
Location: East Side

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby The Duck Hammer » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:04 pm

Holy shit. What a load of bullshit. If that guy doesn't win that lawsuit and bankrupt that town and hospital there is something seriously wrong with America.


Sent from my Vox Mortem
“When you're at the end of your rope, tie a knot and hold on” - Theodore Roosevelt

Olly wrote: We're still the bastard pirates of the duck forum world.


WFF Prostaff
User avatar
The Duck Hammer
 
Posts: 14027
Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:42 pm
Location: The Chicken House

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby assateague » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:36 pm

Oh my God.
User avatar
assateague
 
Posts: 23627
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:52 pm
Location: Eastern Shore, People's Republic of Maryland

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:36 pm

he should have shot them.
Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:18 pm
huntall6 wrote:MT is right.



totally sig worthy!
User avatar
(MT)Montanafowler
 
Posts: 3707
Joined: Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:19 pm

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Woody » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:45 pm

WTF!
Have you ever wondered why your dick still looks brand new, but your face is starting to look like an aging pirate?
User avatar
Woody
 
Posts: 6625
Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:41 am

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Woody » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:46 pm

Lesson here is, if the police stop you because you just performed a rolling stop due to your rushing to a bathroom because you are prairie doggin, don't clinch to keep it in, just shit your pants.
Have you ever wondered why your dick still looks brand new, but your face is starting to look like an aging pirate?
User avatar
Woody
 
Posts: 6625
Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:41 am

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Redbeard » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:10 pm

Reading this made me have to shit


#tazincali
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
User avatar
Redbeard
 
Posts: 20636
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:09 pm
Location: Humboldt County

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby rozzo842 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:14 pm

What is going on in this country? It's really just ridiculous.
User avatar
rozzo842
 
Posts: 475
Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:02 pm

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby JGUN » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:14 pm

Woody wrote:Lesson here is, if the police stop you because you just performed a rolling stop due to your rushing to a bathroom because you are prairie doggin, don't clinch to keep it in, just shit your pants.


WWJD
What would Jehler do?
User avatar
JGUN
 
Posts: 2093
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:39 am
Location: Traverse City, Michigan

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Olly » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:17 pm

The reason this scares me so much (and I'm not bashing on cops this time, because it' not their fault) is that as a society we've put so much power into police hands. There was literally nothing this man could do except give into what was esentially rape. There was no higher authority he could have called and if he resisted he would have been slapped with extra charges of resisting arrest and still forced to be searched. It scares me that the police have the authority to request and a judge has the power to issue a warrant based off how the man was standing is terrorfying to me.

When it comes to the police there are not checks and balances and that reason and stories like this are why I have a ingrained fear of the police.
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ― Samuel Adams
User avatar
Olly
WFF Administrator
 
Posts: 15522
Joined: Wed May 30, 2012 9:05 am

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby waterfowlman » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:18 pm

I wouldn't sue those cops. I'd find out where they live and kill them and their entire fucking family if they did that to me. FACT!
"Duty - Honor - Country".
User avatar
waterfowlman
 
Posts: 2250
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:12 pm
Location: Eastern Shore of Virginia

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby BrewGUN » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:26 pm

waterfowlman wrote:I wouldn't sue those cops. I'd find out where they live and kill them and their entire fucking family if they did that to me. FACT!

"Well that escalated quickly!"
User avatar
BrewGUN
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:52 pm
Location: Elk Rapids, MI

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Woody » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:28 pm

waterfowlman wrote:I wouldn't sue those cops. I'd find out where they live and kill them and their entire fucking family if they did that to me. FACT!


I believe you.
Have you ever wondered why your dick still looks brand new, but your face is starting to look like an aging pirate?
User avatar
Woody
 
Posts: 6625
Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:41 am

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Woody » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:29 pm

Olly wrote:The reason this scares me so much (and I'm not bashing on cops this time, because it' not their fault) is that as a society we've put so much power into police hands. There was literally nothing this man could do except give into what was esentially rape. There was no higher authority he could have called and if he resisted he would have been slapped with extra charges of resisting arrest and still forced to be searched. It scares me that the police have the authority to request and a judge has the power to issue a warrant based off how the man was standing is terrorfying to me.

When it comes to the police there are not checks and balances and that reason and stories like this are why I have a ingrained fear of the police.


Yep!
Have you ever wondered why your dick still looks brand new, but your face is starting to look like an aging pirate?
User avatar
Woody
 
Posts: 6625
Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:41 am

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Woody » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:29 pm

JGUN wrote:
Woody wrote:Lesson here is, if the police stop you because you just performed a rolling stop due to your rushing to a bathroom because you are prairie doggin, don't clinch to keep it in, just shit your pants.


WWJD
What would Jehler do?

:lol:
Have you ever wondered why your dick still looks brand new, but your face is starting to look like an aging pirate?
User avatar
Woody
 
Posts: 6625
Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:41 am

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby waterfowlman » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:30 pm

BrewGUN wrote:
waterfowlman wrote:I wouldn't sue those cops. I'd find out where they live and kill them and their entire fucking family if they did that to me. FACT!

"Well that escalated quickly!"


AND....I'd kill their pets too.
"Duty - Honor - Country".
User avatar
waterfowlman
 
Posts: 2250
Joined: Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:12 pm
Location: Eastern Shore of Virginia

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Redbeard » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:30 pm

Horrifying if it really happened. But is that the suspect's account of what happened or the cop's account of what happened?

And for the record I don't believe a regular beat cop would make a traffic stop, see a guy "clenching his buttcheeks together" and immediately deduce there're narcotics in his bunghole. Well Boot might.

And I don't believe a judge would issue a warrant based on a regular beat cop's assumption that the guy may be hiding narcotics in his bunghole.

My guess is there's more to the story than we're being let on to.

But let's go ahead and burn everyone involved at the stake.



#tazincali
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
User avatar
Redbeard
 
Posts: 20636
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:09 pm
Location: Humboldt County

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Woody » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:33 pm

I think assa meant to put this here...

assateague wrote:He really was. Believe it or not, I'm a fairly calm person. It takes an awful lot to piss me off, and I will generally exhaust all possible avenues before resorting to the extreme. But anymore, there are NO other avenues. You will have your kids taken. You will be put in jail. You will have your property taken away. You will have your door kicked in. You will have your dog shot. And I'm not talking about "police", I'm talking about government in general. Honestly, the only options are to take it (in this case, literally in the ass, at least 8 times) or get violent. If I hear of someone flipping their shit, I no longer think "they must be crazy" or "they must be guilty". I now think "they must have finally had enough".

The fact that, in this case, the guy's options were getting medically ass-raped- repeatedly- or going to jail for resisting arrest is just Fucked. Up. When placed in that position (both literally and figuratively) it's just a matter of time before it gets ugly all over.
Have you ever wondered why your dick still looks brand new, but your face is starting to look like an aging pirate?
User avatar
Woody
 
Posts: 6625
Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:41 am

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby assateague » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:40 pm

Redbeard wrote:Horrifying if it really happened. But is that the suspect's account of what happened or the cop's account of what happened?

And for the record I don't believe a regular beat cop would make a traffic stop, see a guy "clenching his buttcheeks together" and immediately deduce there're narcotics in his bunghole. Well Boot might.

And I don't believe a judge would issue a warrant based on a regular beat cop's assumption that the guy may be hiding narcotics in his bunghole.

My guess is there's more to the story than we're being let on to.

But let's go ahead and burn everyone involved at the stake.



#tazincali



Maybe. But the medical records seem to tell a different story. As does the refusal of the first hospital to perform the "search".
User avatar
assateague
 
Posts: 23627
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:52 pm
Location: Eastern Shore, People's Republic of Maryland

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:44 pm

waterfowlman wrote:I wouldn't sue those cops. I'd find out where they live and kill them and their entire fucking family if they did that to me. FACT!


i don't think you would have let them do it in the first place Sir!
Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:18 pm
huntall6 wrote:MT is right.



totally sig worthy!
User avatar
(MT)Montanafowler
 
Posts: 3707
Joined: Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:19 pm

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Redbeard » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:47 pm

assateague wrote:
Redbeard wrote:Horrifying if it really happened. But is that the suspect's account of what happened or the cop's account of what happened?

And for the record I don't believe a regular beat cop would make a traffic stop, see a guy "clenching his buttcheeks together" and immediately deduce there're narcotics in his bunghole. Well Boot might.

And I don't believe a judge would issue a warrant based on a regular beat cop's assumption that the guy may be hiding narcotics in his bunghole.

My guess is there's more to the story than we're being let on to.

But let's go ahead and burn everyone involved at the stake.



#tazincali



Maybe. But the medical records seem to tell a different story. As does the refusal of the first hospital to perform the "search".
well I'll admit the numerous procedures performed on him does seem extreme, though I don't know what the normal protocol is for that sort of thing.

As far as the first hospital refusing, they refuse stuff like that all the time, legal blood draws and such

But let me ask you, was he a drug dealer? Or a drug runner?


#tazincali
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
User avatar
Redbeard
 
Posts: 20636
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:09 pm
Location: Humboldt County

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby aunt betty » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:47 pm

Cops are dicks. Their job is to fuck assholes. They will get medals for this. :)

sent from my fancy phone that has a really cool kickstand via tapaskwawk
I've heard that it's incredibly stupid to fuck around with a crazy man's head.
User avatar
aunt betty
 
Posts: 14634
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:37 pm
Location: East Side

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Tomkat » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:03 pm

The bigger problem is the cause of all this: the failed war on drugs.

Give it a rest. People are going to do what ever they want. Lets make cops do their jobs, not become ass bandits.



Blog- http://www.ksducks.com
User avatar
Tomkat
 
Posts: 6869
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:46 pm

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Juice Box » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:12 pm

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1383678735.296340.jpg




#ionlyknowhowtohuntspoonies
YOU MUST REGISTER TO VIEW THIS IMAGE.
"Olly cop hater? No

Olly American? Yes"
Juice Box
 
Posts: 841
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:51 pm

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Juice Box » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:49 pm

Redbeard wrote:
assateague wrote:
Redbeard wrote:Horrifying if it really happened. But is that the suspect's account of what happened or the cop's account of what happened?

And for the record I don't believe a regular beat cop would make a traffic stop, see a guy "clenching his buttcheeks together" and immediately deduce there're narcotics in his bunghole. Well Boot might.

And I don't believe a judge would issue a warrant based on a regular beat cop's assumption that the guy may be hiding narcotics in his bunghole.

My guess is there's more to the story than we're being let on to.

But let's go ahead and burn everyone involved at the stake.



#tazincali



Maybe. But the medical records seem to tell a different story. As does the refusal of the first hospital to perform the "search".
well I'll admit the numerous procedures performed on him does seem extreme, though I don't know what the normal protocol is for that sort of thing.

As far as the first hospital refusing, they refuse stuff like that all the time, legal blood draws and such

But let me ask you, was he a drug dealer? Or a drug runner?


#tazincali

I've given up on trying to get people to realize not all cops are pricks. I seem to waste my time each time.


#ionlyknowhowtohuntspoonies
"Olly cop hater? No

Olly American? Yes"
Juice Box
 
Posts: 841
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:51 pm

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby assateague » Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:03 pm

You're supposed to tell them "stop resisting" first.
User avatar
assateague
 
Posts: 23627
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:52 pm
Location: Eastern Shore, People's Republic of Maryland

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Olly » Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:13 pm

Juice Box wrote:I've given up on trying to get people to realize not all cops are pricks. I seem to waste my time each time.


#ionlyknowhowtohuntspoonies


I don't believe all cops are pricks. I've given and trust a cop with almost total power on this forum. That should be proof right there.

I do feel that police in a broad sense have way much power and way too few checks in this country. This is a perfect example of that.
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ― Samuel Adams
User avatar
Olly
WFF Administrator
 
Posts: 15522
Joined: Wed May 30, 2012 9:05 am

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby aunt betty » Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:21 pm

So...
Where in Deming did you do your shopping? Find any bargains?
:clap:
I've heard that it's incredibly stupid to fuck around with a crazy man's head.
User avatar
aunt betty
 
Posts: 14634
Joined: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:37 pm
Location: East Side

Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Redbeard » Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:28 pm

Juice Box wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
assateague wrote:
Redbeard wrote:Horrifying if it really happened. But is that the suspect's account of what happened or the cop's account of what happened?

And for the record I don't believe a regular beat cop would make a traffic stop, see a guy "clenching his buttcheeks together" and immediately deduce there're narcotics in his bunghole. Well Boot might.

And I don't believe a judge would issue a warrant based on a regular beat cop's assumption that the guy may be hiding narcotics in his bunghole.

My guess is there's more to the story than we're being let on to.

But let's go ahead and burn everyone involved at the stake.



#tazincali



Maybe. But the medical records seem to tell a different story. As does the refusal of the first hospital to perform the "search".
well I'll admit the numerous procedures performed on him does seem extreme, though I don't know what the normal protocol is for that sort of thing.

As far as the first hospital refusing, they refuse stuff like that all the time, legal blood draws and such

But let me ask you, was he a drug dealer? Or a drug runner?


#tazincali

I've given up on trying to get people to realize not all cops are pricks. I seem to waste my time each time.


#ionlyknowhowtohuntspoonies
oh make no mistake about it, we're all pricks. You gotta be a sick fuck to do this job. But corrupt and dirty we're all not


#tazincali
gila-river wrote:Great, now the cops want to install dishwashers to. Just do your job Red and stop encroaching on our rights to replace appliances. That is not the responsibility of police.:lol:
User avatar
Redbeard
 
Posts: 20636
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:09 pm
Location: Humboldt County

Next

Return to The Blind

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 86 guests

cron