question about those new lightbulbs

[(MT)Montanafowler]

so i have one of those new twisty style lightbulbs, and it says 75 watts and 20 watts, i know the 75 is what it is compared to regular bulbs, and the 20 i suspect is supposed to be what it's actually drawing. the light socket is rated for 60 watts, so are these damn things safe to use when the output is rated higher than the socket? the fucking packaging is in spanish, so no help there. seems like if this new bulb drawing only 20 watts, i could theoretically go get a floodlight and put it in if it's under 60 watts.

[Bootlipkiller]

Are you just trying to demonstrate you don't know everything? Tiler_j got in your head didn't he?

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Are you just trying to demonstrate you don't know everything? Tiler_j got in your head didn't he?

no, that's just coincidence. it's a serious question. i went to change the bulb and saw the 20 watt thing and figured i should find out before i burn the place down. i haven't used these new bulbs before.

[Goldfish]

I actually had this same question for my outside lights. I just ended up getting a lower watt florescent

[QH's Paw]

Wattage ratings on fixtures usually is more so for heat rating. Like in an enclosed globe or cover they want you to only use 60watts because the heat builds and can deteriorate fixture which in turn puts it at risk for fire. The fixture can easily carry enough 110v at a high enough current to surpass 60 watts. 60 watts of 110v is barely .5 amps which a thin piece of tin foil could easily conduct.

[3legged_lab]

You're good.... probably

[QH's Paw]

Sorry, in answer to your question you use the 20 watts not the comparable watts.

[GadwallGetter530]

You're good.... probably

Such confidence...

[Bootlipkiller]

Are you just trying to demonstrate you don't know everything? Tiler_j got in your head didn't he?

no, that's just coincidence. it's a serious question. i went to change the bulb and saw the 20 watt thing and figured i should find out before i burn the place down. i haven't used these new bulbs before.

I have an opinion but its just an opinions so I'm not going to share it and get blamed for your house burning down.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Sorry, in answer to your question you use the 20 watts not the comparable watts.

cool, that's what i figured, maybe i'll price out a floodlamp after all...

thanks QH

[3legged_lab]

You're good.... probably

Such confidence...

The two ratings are to show the lighting equivalent of a 75 watt but only draw 20 watt.
The "probably" is to release liability.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

The two ratings are to show the lighting equivalent of a 75 watt but only draw 20 watt.
The "probably" is to release liability.

seems like they should drop the watt equivalent and just list the lumens and the actual watts. it'd be less confusing and gives you a better idea of how bright it will be.

[3legged_lab]

The two ratings are to show the lighting equivalent of a 75 watt but only draw 20 watt.
The "probably" is to release liability.

seems like they should drop the watt equivalent and just list the lumens and the actual watts. it'd be less confusing and gives you a better idea of how bright it will be.

Does your grandma know how many lumens her old 75 watt incandescent light bulb puts out? Which bulb should she buy? Its supposed to make it easy for simple folks to figure out. I guess they failed.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Does your grandma know how many lumens her old 75 watt incandescent light bulb puts out? Which bulb should she buy? Its supposed to make it easy for simple folks to figure out. I guess they failed.

no idea, all my grandparents were dead before i was born.

[QH's Paw]

The two ratings are to show the lighting equivalent of a 75 watt but only draw 20 watt.
The "probably" is to release liability.

seems like they should drop the watt equivalent and just list the lumens and the actual watts. it'd be less confusing and gives you a better idea of how bright it will be.

Does your grandma know how many lumens her old 75 watt incandescent light bulb puts out? Which bulb should she buy? Its supposed to make it easy for simple folks to figure out. I guess they failed.

I see what you did there Tripod.

[3legged_lab]

Does your grandma know how many lumens her old 75 watt incandescent light bulb puts out? Which bulb should she buy? Its supposed to make it easy for simple folks to figure out. I guess they failed.

no idea, all my grandparents were dead before i was born.

Maybe I should've made it more Montana just for you - if they sheep the rating, how would they sheep it to sheep so people know which sheep to take home.

[jehler]

Throw em away, everyone is doing led now, the twisty ones are bad for the environment

[aunt betty]

Ok...the reason a light socket is rated at 60 watts is because ceiling fans have four sockets. Everything else is rated for 250 volts. ..look.
Four times sixty is less than 250. Get it?

A light socket in a lamp can use 100 watt bulbs and not overload the system but put 4-100-watters in a ceiling fan could melt the insulation on the wires and cause a fire.

[aunt betty]

Them cfl's are a bullshit gimmick. They save energy but are more complex to make, expensive, and polute more.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Them cfl's are a bullshit gimmick. They save energy but are more complex to make, expensive, and polute more.

damn, first time I've ever agreed with you betty.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Maybe I should've made it more Montana just for you - if they sheep the rating, how would they sheep it to sheep so people know which sheep to take home.

you fucking twatnugget.

[flight control]

Does your grandma know how many lumens her old 75 watt incandescent light bulb puts out? Which bulb should she buy? Its supposed to make it easy for simple folks to figure out. I guess they failed.

no idea, all my grandparents were dead before i was born.

Maybe I should've made it more Montana just for you - if they sheep the rating, how would they sheep it to sheep so people know which sheep to take home.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[aunt betty]

Baaaa baaaaa. ..

[3legged_lab]

Maybe I should've made it more Montana just for you - if they sheep the rating, how would they sheep it to sheep so people know which sheep to take home.

you fucking twatnugget.

Hahaha!

[QH's Paw]

Ok...the reason a light socket is rated at 60 watts is because ceiling fans have four sockets. Everything else is rated for 250 volts. ..look.
Four times sixty is less than 250. Get it?

A light socket in a lamp can use 100 watt bulbs and not overload the system but put 4-100-watters in a ceiling fan could melt the insulation on the wires and cause a fire.

You aren't an electrician, obviously. I reference 110v-120v because that is what the lights use, not because the fitting is limited to that. There are several lighting assemblies on the market that have 60w limit statement, not just fan lighting. The heat comes from the bulb, not the wire. The amperage rating for 22AWG (that's smaller than most manufacturers use, except automotive and electronics) is from 8-13amps(depends on wire coating), that's before the derating for bundling. 4 60 watt bulbs at 110v is about 2 amps total, at full draw, which only happens when they are first turned on. Most American manufacturers use 18awg which bumps everything up to 15-24amps. That's enough wattage rating to go all the way to 4 300 watt rated bulbs and beyond without putting the conductors/wire at risk. That's plenty for 100watt on the wires.
I suppose the wiring would be a concern on some of the cheap made Chinese shit but, that is more because they "cheat" the real rating system by putting less wire in the coating than the marked value.
Here's the math, OHM's law
Volts X Amps= watts
watts/volts=amps
watts/amps=volts
All wire rating is given in amperage rating. The amperage rating of wire is easy to find online. Here is just one example
wire size rating for different coatings
30 AWG 2 3 3 3 4
28 AWG 3 4 4 5 6
26 AWG 4 5 5 6 7
24 AWG 6 7 7 8 10
22 AWG 8 9 10 11 13
20 AWG 10 12 13 14 17

Also, here is the cheat sheet for Ohm's law.

[rebelp74]

Are you just trying to demonstrate you don't know everything? Tiler_j got in your head didn't he?

no, that's just coincidence. it's a serious question. i went to change the bulb and saw the 20 watt thing and figured i should find out before i burn the place down. i haven't used these new bulbs before.

I have an opinion but its just an opinions so I'm not going to share it and get blamed for your house burning down.

When did you start running for office

[aunt betty]

It says 900 lumens.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

It says 900 lumens.

exactly what i was saying!

[Mornin Beef]

yes!!!!!!!!

[huntall6]

Christ Montana! Screw the fucker in and hit the switch.