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This is why I don't like head shots....




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looks like it brought em down, and you didn't fuck up the meat

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:looks like it brought em down, and you didn't fuck up the meat

Montana has a point here.

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:looks like it brought em down, and you didn't fuck up the meat

My cousin shot it (in the lungs) when it came walking by him with it's mouth all fucked up and bleeding.

Probably just ran into a stick or something.

The Duck Hammer wrote:

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:looks like it brought em down, and you didn't fuck up the meat

Montana has a point here.

The shot I think it came from was on a property about a mile away. It woulda brought him down in a week or 2 when it staved to death.

assateague wrote:Probably just ran into a stick or something.

Musta been a hard stick to go all the way through and break the bottom jaw.

50/50™ he would've got hit by a car before then.

The double lung on the other hand put him down in about 50 yards with a 30-30.

NuffDaddy wrote:The double lung on the other hand put him down in about 50 yards with a 30-30.

if you had shot him in the head instead of the bill, you would have instadropped him.

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:The double lung on the other hand put him down in about 50 yards with a 30-30.

if you had shot him in the head instead of the bill, you would have instadropped him.

Wasn't any I us that shot it in the face.

Truthfully, there is just as much chance of aiming for the pumphouse and fucking up and gut shooting him as in shooting them in the mouth when aiming for the head. Just because it's a bigger area doesn't make it any less of a lingering, unrecovered death if you miss what you're aiming at, be it the head or the lungs.

assateague wrote:Truthfully, there is just as much chance of aiming for the pumphouse and fucking up and gut shooting him as in shooting them in the mouth when aiming for the head. Just because it's a bigger area doesn't make it any less of a lingering, unrecovered death if you miss what you're aiming at, be it the head or the lungs.

truth.

you have a better chance of all or nothing with a headshot, and you won't fuck up any of the meat.

logically, that is the best place to shoot them. in cases like your picture, yes it will kill the animal slowly, but probably far quicker than sepsis and gangrene of the gut shot.

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:

assateague wrote:Truthfully, there is just as much chance of aiming for the pumphouse and fucking up and gut shooting him as in shooting them in the mouth when aiming for the head. Just because it's a bigger area doesn't make it any less of a lingering, unrecovered death if you miss what you're aiming at, be it the head or the lungs.

truth.

you have a better chance of all or nothing with a headshot, and you won't fuck up any of the meat.

logically, that is the best place to shoot them. in cases like your picture, yes it will kill the animal slowly, but probably far quicker than sepsis and gangrene of the gut shot.

Plus those bastard game wardens cant accurately measure their antlers once you bust a skull.

assateague wrote:Truthfully, there is just as much chance of aiming for the pumphouse and fucking up and gut shooting him as in shooting them in the mouth when aiming for the head. Just because it's a bigger area doesn't make it any less of a lingering, unrecovered death if you miss what you're aiming at, be it the head or the lungs.

I can miss center of lungs by 4" and still get lung. I can miss by 6" and still get liver. Miss by 4" on a head shot and you get what this poor deer got. The deer will also die a lot quicker with a gut shot. If you give them a day and know how to track you can usually find a gut shot deer.

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:

assateague wrote:Truthfully, there is just as much chance of aiming for the pumphouse and fucking up and gut shooting him as in shooting them in the mouth when aiming for the head. Just because it's a bigger area doesn't make it any less of a lingering, unrecovered death if you miss what you're aiming at, be it the head or the lungs.

truth.

you have a better chance of all or nothing with a headshot, and you won't fuck up any of the meat.

logically, that is the best place to shoot them. in cases like your picture, yes it will kill the animal slowly, but probably far quicker than sepsis and gangrene of the gut shot.

Youre wrong

NuffDaddy wrote:

assateague wrote:Truthfully, there is just as much chance of aiming for the pumphouse and fucking up and gut shooting him as in shooting them in the mouth when aiming for the head. Just because it's a bigger area doesn't make it any less of a lingering, unrecovered death if you miss what you're aiming at, be it the head or the lungs.

I can miss center of lungs by 4" and still get lung. I can miss by 6" and still get liver. Miss by 4" on a head shot and you get what this poor deer got. The deer will also die a lot quicker with a gut shot. If you give them a day and know how to track you can usually find a gut shot deer.

Miss by 4" 3 out of the 4 ways on a head shot, you get a clean miss. You would have to miss by about a foot or more to get a clean miss on a lung shot in 3 directions, and about 3 feet in the 4th direction. I'd argue there's more chance of a slow lingering death with a lung shot gone bad than a head shot gone bad.

assateague wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

assateague wrote:Truthfully, there is just as much chance of aiming for the pumphouse and fucking up and gut shooting him as in shooting them in the mouth when aiming for the head. Just because it's a bigger area doesn't make it any less of a lingering, unrecovered death if you miss what you're aiming at, be it the head or the lungs.

I can miss center of lungs by 4" and still get lung. I can miss by 6" and still get liver. Miss by 4" on a head shot and you get what this poor deer got. The deer will also die a lot quicker with a gut shot. If you give them a day and know how to track you can usually find a gut shot deer.

Miss by 4" 3 out of the 4 ways on a head shot, you get a clean miss. You would have to miss by about a foot or more to get a clean miss on a lung shot in 3 directions, and about 3 feet in the 4th direction. I'd argue there's more chance of a slow lingering death with a lung shot gone bad than a head shot gone bad.

Nope. You get a 12" target when aiming for the lungs. Anybody should be able to hit that. And 9 times outa 10 a gut shot deer will 100-200 yards and lay down. Go back a day or 2 later and you'll have your deer. A deer with a blown of jaw will never be found and it will travel to death in 1-2 weeks and be crow food.

NuffDaddy wrote: A deer with a blown of jaw will never be found and it will travel to death in 1-2 weeks and be crow food.

Or stagger over to your families property giving your liberal cousin an easy shot on a crippled deer that was looking for suicide by Nuffer.

Of course the lung shot dropped him in his tracks, he'd already been Mike Tyson'd and was dead on his feet.

Jr's deer didn't take a step, both lungs and the top of the heart

3legged_lab wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote: A deer with a blown of jaw will never be found and it will travel to death in 1-2 weeks and be crow food.

Or stagger over to your families property giving your liberal cousin an easy shot on a crippled deer that was looking for suicide by Nuffer.

Of course the lung shot dropped him in his tracks, he'd already been Mike Tyson'd and was dead on his feet.

Yup. He got lucky.

jehler wrote:Jr's deer didn't take a step, both lungs and the top of the heart

The perfect shot. What gun?

.308

jehler wrote:.308

That will put a good hole in em.

I agree with nuff I don't really care for headshots. Only time I will shoot one in the head is if its damn close. Like under 30 yards. otherwise Its right thru the chest. Bang flop 9 time out of 10

NuffDaddy wrote:

assateague wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

assateague wrote:Truthfully, there is just as much chance of aiming for the pumphouse and fucking up and gut shooting him as in shooting them in the mouth when aiming for the head. Just because it's a bigger area doesn't make it any less of a lingering, unrecovered death if you miss what you're aiming at, be it the head or the lungs.

I can miss center of lungs by 4" and still get lung. I can miss by 6" and still get liver. Miss by 4" on a head shot and you get what this poor deer got. The deer will also die a lot quicker with a gut shot. If you give them a day and know how to track you can usually find a gut shot deer.

Miss by 4" 3 out of the 4 ways on a head shot, you get a clean miss. You would have to miss by about a foot or more to get a clean miss on a lung shot in 3 directions, and about 3 feet in the 4th direction. I'd argue there's more chance of a slow lingering death with a lung shot gone bad than a head shot gone bad.

Nope. You get a 12" target when aiming for the lungs. Anybody should be able to hit that. And 9 times outa 10 a gut shot deer will 100-200 yards and lay down. Go back a day or 2 later and you'll have your deer. A deer with a blown of jaw will never be found and it will travel to death in 1-2 weeks and be crow food.

Gut shoot one and that deer died for nothing anyways. Still Crow food.

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:

assateague wrote:Truthfully, there is just as much chance of aiming for the pumphouse and fucking up and gut shooting him as in shooting them in the mouth when aiming for the head. Just because it's a bigger area doesn't make it any less of a lingering, unrecovered death if you miss what you're aiming at, be it the head or the lungs.

truth.

you have a better chance of all or nothing with a headshot, and you won't fuck up any of the meat.

logically, that is the best place to shoot them. in cases like your picture, yes it will kill the animal slowly, but probably far quicker than sepsis and gangrene of the gut shot.

That kind of face shot animal is almost impossible to track without the help of snow or mud. A gutshot animal can be tracked for days until you catch it. Not that I'd want to but it's more likely.
I shot the lower jaw off a deer trying to headshot when I was a kid. I don't take headshots on animals unless they are already shot and even then I usually do it from very close.

Flightstopper wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

assateague wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

assateague wrote:Truthfully, there is just as much chance of aiming for the pumphouse and fucking up and gut shooting him as in shooting them in the mouth when aiming for the head. Just because it's a bigger area doesn't make it any less of a lingering, unrecovered death if you miss what you're aiming at, be it the head or the lungs.

I can miss center of lungs by 4" and still get lung. I can miss by 6" and still get liver. Miss by 4" on a head shot and you get what this poor deer got. The deer will also die a lot quicker with a gut shot. If you give them a day and know how to track you can usually find a gut shot deer.

Miss by 4" 3 out of the 4 ways on a head shot, you get a clean miss. You would have to miss by about a foot or more to get a clean miss on a lung shot in 3 directions, and about 3 feet in the 4th direction. I'd argue there's more chance of a slow lingering death with a lung shot gone bad than a head shot gone bad.

Nope. You get a 12" target when aiming for the lungs. Anybody should be able to hit that. And 9 times outa 10 a gut shot deer will 100-200 yards and lay down. Go back a day or 2 later and you'll have your deer. A deer with a blown of jaw will never be found and it will travel to death in 1-2 weeks and be crow food.

Gut shoot one and that deer died for nothing anyways. Still Crow food.

Can I ask why?

Well here at least, that is going to be one funky deer after two days.

Flightstopper wrote:Well here at least, that is going to be one funky deer after two days.

Depends on the weather. We recovered most of the deer that have been gut shot before they spoil.


Shit happens when your hunting...despite best efforts, sometime you loose a deer, or a duck, or whatever your hunting. But you best odds for a quick clean kill is a chest shot...period.