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Small engine help

PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:04 pm
by Bulldog0156
Guys, I could use a little help with the ice auger. There is a wind vane which connects to the throttle plate. The wind vane keeps the throttle plate closed at idle and rotates out of the way when the gas is applied.

Does the throttle plate need to be slightly open when the wind vane is in the "closed" position? As I have it right now, the throttle is as closed as it can go when the wind vane is in the closed position. It doesn't really want to idle: it will for a few seconds if I play with the choke, but it is not idling at a high enough speed to stay running. Therefore, I am guessing that I need to have the throttle plate slightly open when the wind vane is in the closed position. Anyone know small engines?

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:08 pm
by aunt betty
Might try pissing on it...can't hurt, might help. :)

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:07 pm
by NuffDaddy
Definitely piss on it

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:09 pm
by NuffDaddy
Not sure if I completely understand what your saying, but you do need to have the throttle slightly open to idle when you aren't touching anything.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:13 pm
by rebelp74
Best I got is move outta the ice, problem eliminated.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:14 pm
by 3legged_lab
Did ya try pissing on it?

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:23 pm
by assateague
Sound advice here.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:47 pm
by Bulldog0156
Do you guys honestly think I would come here for advice without first pissing on it? It worked for a little bit, but I'm gonna need a steady stream to keep it going and I have a pretty small bladder. Gonna have to try something else I'm afraid.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:32 pm
by 3legged_lab
Bulldog0156 wrote:Do you guys honestly think I would come here for advice without first pissing on it? It worked for a little bit, but I'm gonna need a steady stream to keep it going and I have a pretty small bladder. Gonna have to try something else I'm afraid.

Have Dan do it, it should run like a spotted-butt ape.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:50 am
by RonE
You don't need to piss on it...............Call all your friends, form a circle and then all of you piss on it..........If it doesn't work then, fuck it, throw it away and never go near ice again.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:51 am
by jehler
Wind vane?

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:53 am
by NuffDaddy
jehler wrote:Wind vane?

That's where he lost me.
I have one in my barn...don't think there is one in the auger though.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:56 am
by 3legged_lab
jehler wrote:Wind vane?

It tells you which direction the wind is blowing

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:58 am
by jehler
3legged_lab wrote:
jehler wrote:Wind vane?

It tells you which direction the wind is blowing
even the winds of mirth?

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:03 am
by 3legged_lab
jehler wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:
jehler wrote:Wind vane?

It tells you which direction the wind is blowing
even the winds of mirth?

Especially

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:01 am
by Goldfish
I'm assuming the wind vane is the throttle butterfly?

If that's the case, it should be open ever so slightly. There should be a screw to adjust where it sits at idle. On my dads auger it was on the top and literally just stopped how far back the lever outside the carb moved.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:11 am
by Bulldog0156
I found a service manual online.

https://docs.google.com/gview?url=http: ... hrome=true

Still haven't gotten it working. I'm fucking pissed.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:14 am
by Bufflehead
Did you take apart the carb an clean it?

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:15 am
by Bufflehead
Also it could be a vacuum leak between the carb and motor.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:49 am
by Bulldog0156
Brand new carb. I paid to have it fixed locally because I didn't want to deal with it. It did not get fixed, the guy made it run but it only runs at speeds of "wide open" and "raped ape." I really don't want it over-rev and explode.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:50 am
by Bulldog0156
To be honest, I'm pretty sure he put the wrong carb on it.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:57 am
by (MT)Montanafowler
Bulldog0156 wrote:To be honest, I'm pretty sure he put the wrong carb on it.


kinda what i'm thinking as well.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:00 am
by OGblackcloud
Could be the gasket

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:14 am
by ea oneal
if the wind vane you speak of is by the flyweel it,s a governor and that may be why it,s over revving

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:22 am
by Bulldog0156
ea oneal wrote:if the wind vane you speak of is by the flyweel it,s a governor and that may be why it,s over revving

Correct. The guy at the shop took it off "because it ran better without it." We clearly have different ideas of what running better is.

I had to replace the wind vane once before and I remember it being really easy. Now I can't figure out the proper position of it which is leading me to believe I am missing a crucial part.

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:05 pm
by Bulldog0156
Well, I've got it semi-running right now. I think I might be able to get this figured out yet. It'd be easier if I knew exactly what the carb was so I know where the adjustment screws are. :?

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:00 pm
by Goldfish
Got a picture?

Re: Small engine help

PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:59 pm
by Bufflehead
OGblackcloud wrote:Could be the gasket

This is what I was talking about when I said vacuum leak.


If you can get it to run long enough to spray starting fluid on the carb around the gasket, it should rev up if its a vacuum leak. It doesn't take much for it to run like shit.

this the gasket between the back of the carb and the motor, not the one on the front.