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Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby Goldfish » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:08 pm

Duck hammer, you just need to get used to it.

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Call it the 40-degree phenomenon.Remember how Tuesday’s temperature sent us whooping in the streets? We were ready to invite pals over for a barbecue or cajole restaurants into opening their patios.Yet that same temperature in October had us scrambling for gloves and scarves and arguing about turning on the furnace.The difference is that by now we’ve acclimated to the cold, a transition that northerners have needed ever since cave dwellers woke up to fall’s first frost with their winter pelts still in storage.“It’s our Neanderthal DNA,” said Dr. Kevin Fleming, who is in general internal medicine at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester. “We’re genetically equipped to handle this.”Fleming says this like it’s a good thing — and it is — yet no one likes to think about how this shift actually works: The way to get better at withstanding the cold is by exposing ourselves to the cold.To further an abominable image: Recent research says that our acclimating abilities are linked to the amount of brown fat we harbor.Brown adipose tissue, or BAT, lies in deposits around our necks and clavicles, sort of like chinking in a log cabin. Once these fatty deposits are activated by exposure to cold, they generate heat, Fleming said.Think of how our bodies react during the first cold snap. Say you’re sitting on the bleachers for your kid’s football game. Likely, you haven’t dressed warmly enough, because who wears mittens in October? By the third quarter, you’re shivering, which is your body’s attempt to generate heat. Physiologically, it helps, but psychologically, shivering makes us feel even colder.“The only way you can generate heat without shivering is if you get more exposure to cold, which activates the brown fat,” Fleming said. Unfortunately, this heat doesn’t kick in like those chemical hand warmers, but is more gradual.“It’s like how people who move here from the South hate it, but then get used to it after a couple of years,” he said. “Why does it take so long? Because they have to grow tissue.”Despite this physical response, pay no mind to the folklore that blood thickens in the winter. It doesn’t, Fleming said, wondering if the old saying stems from what happens if you injure yourself outdoors. “You just bleed differently when it’s freezing.”Summer is another challengeConversely, the human body also acclimates to heat.A study last year in the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Hygiene said that older firefighters could tolerate a blaze where the heat is particularly intense more easily than younger or less experienced colleagues, who needed to stop and take a break.This resilience translates to residents of hot climates, or to people in jobs where they’re exposed to heat stress. According to the research, those who can handle the heat are more likely to do their jobs without risking injury due to a lapse in alertness or coordination.The human body is not endlessly adaptable, however. One climate factor especially resistant to acclimation is humidity.“It’s a fatiguing thing,” said Fleming. “That’s why even people who live in tropical climates have adopted the siesta.”All together now: It’s not the heat; it’s the humidity.Common sense also figures in on how we deal with the cold.In 2006, a researcher at the University of Oulu in Finland studied how humans adapt in northern climes, suggesting that success is not only physiological, but behavioral. In other words, we know how to dress for the cold.‘Zip it!’“In this study the geographical differences in the use of hats, gloves and scarves were associated with cold-related mortality,” Tiina Mäkinen wrote. “Overall, mortality has been shown to increase to a greater extent with a given fall in temperatures … among people wearing fewer clothes.”In layman’s nagging: “Zip up your jacket!”This being the coldest winter here in 30 years, it’s worth noting that some age groups really do struggle with the cold. The very young need help regulating their temperatures, which is why we bundle up our babies and youngsters. Older people also gradually become more vulnerable to temperature extremes.“For the big middle — from teens to 70s — acclimation is pretty easy,” Fleming said. “But we need to monitor those at the extremes.”He added that one thing that stymies everyone who lives in frigid climates is hand dexterity. It doesn’t adjust with the temperature because a cold body restricts the flow of blood to extremities, keeping it near the heart. Less blood means more fumble fingers.So that set of keys you dropped in the snow where they disappeared from sight, and seemingly off the face of the Earth?Could happen to anyone.
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby aunt betty » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:14 pm

Does the same tissue make us Yankees overheat easier?
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby Goldfish » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:29 pm

It says your body acclimated to the temp, so if you are regularly in the heat, you can handle it better but if you are not, then you will over heat
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:33 pm

I was under the impression that only babies had brown fat (heater tissue) I thought we as adults lost it.

I have definitely climatized over the past 6 years, I'm very comfortable in cold weather these days. I don't even need to wear gloves or a knit hat until about -10, my hands don't really get cold.
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby Bootlipkiller » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:16 am

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:I was under the impression that only babies had brown fat (heater tissue) I thought we as adults lost it.

I have definitely climatized over the past 6 years, I'm very comfortable in cold weather these days. I don't even need to wear gloves or a knit hat until about -10, my hands don't really get cold.


I have no doubt you're full of brown, but I don't think its fat.
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Postby Tiler_J » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:21 am

Bootlipkiller wrote:
(MT)Montanafowler wrote:I was under the impression that only babies had brown fat (heater tissue) I thought we as adults lost it.

I have definitely climatized over the past 6 years, I'm very comfortable in cold weather these days. I don't even need to wear gloves or a knit hat until about -10, my hands don't really get cold.


I have no doubt you're full of brown, but I don't think its fat.

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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby jarbo03 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:37 am

Acclimated or not, cold weather sucks. Very true though, when the snow started to melt, I noticed a day it was in the 20s but the sun was out with no wind. There were families at the park, Moms with strollers going for walks, etc.
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby bill herian » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:53 am

All bullshit.

You might acclimate to a slight degree, but solar radiation intensifies as winter progresses, cold air doesn't feel as cold because the sun warms you up.
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby Goldfish » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:37 am

bill herian wrote:All bullshit.

You might acclimate to a slight degree, but solar radiation intensifies as winter progresses, cold air doesn't feel as cold because the sun warms you up.

Yea, the mayo clinic is usually full bullshit...
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby Bootlipkiller » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:44 am

Goldfish wrote:
bill herian wrote:All bullshit.

You might acclimate to a slight degree, but solar radiation intensifies as winter progresses, cold air doesn't feel as cold because the sun warms you up.

Yea, the mayo clinic is usually full bullshit...

I always knew goldie participated in the mayo clinic. Not that it matters.
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby Goldfish » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:02 am

You lost me on that one
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby Bootlipkiller » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:03 am

Goldfish wrote:You lost me on that one

Not surprised
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Postby AKPirate » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:05 am

Bootlipkiller wrote:
Goldfish wrote:You lost me on that one

Not surprised


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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby Bootlipkiller » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:07 am

AKPirate wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
Goldfish wrote:You lost me on that one

Not surprised


Dumbass Boot thinks its a sperm bank

Forgive me I'm dumb. :D
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Postby AKPirate » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:13 am

Bootlipkiller wrote:
AKPirate wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
Goldfish wrote:You lost me on that one

Not surprised


Dumbass Boot thinks its a sperm bank

Forgive me I'm dumb. :D


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Postby Bootlipkiller » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:14 am

AKPirate wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
AKPirate wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
Goldfish wrote:You lost me on that one

Not surprised


Dumbass Boot thinks its a sperm bank

Forgive me I'm dumb. :D


No!

Well then shit on some white bread and eat it bitch! :lol:
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Postby AKPirate » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:17 am

You working again or still holed up in the house?
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby Bootlipkiller » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:18 am

I go back Thursday
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Postby AKPirate » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:19 am

Bootlipkiller wrote:I go back Thursday


Drinking your sick days off, good call
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Postby aunt betty » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:11 am

bill herian wrote:All bullshit.

You might acclimate to a slight degree, but solar radiation intensifies as winter progresses, cold air doesn't feel as cold because the sun warms you up.

Bull fucking shit.
The sun only comes out for 2 hours a week.
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Postby Woody » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:56 am

bill herian wrote:All bullshit.

You might acclimate to a slight degree, but solar radiation intensifies as winter progresses, cold air doesn't feel as cold because the sun warms you up.


Isn't the sun furthest from the northern hemisphere during winter? Isn't that what causes winter?
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby hudson » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:06 am

Bootlipkiller wrote:
AKPirate wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:
AKPirate wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:[quote="Goldfish"]You lost me on that one

Not surprised


Dumbass Boot thinks its a sperm bank

Forgive me I'm dumb. :D


No!

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Postby FlintRiverFowler » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:09 am

Yeah. Isn't the spring solstice the furthest we tilt away from the sun before we start tilting back? When you can balance an egg on end.
We've had a colder than normal winter this year. At the beginning I was freezing my ass off. Now in the same temps it doesn't even bother me. I've gotten used to it.
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Postby aunt betty » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:43 am

FlintRiverFowler wrote:Yeah. Isn't the spring solstice the furthest we tilt away from the sun before we start tilting back? When you can balance an egg on end.
We've had a colder than normal winter this year. At the beginning I was freezing my ass off. Now in the same temps it doesn't even bother me. I've gotten used to it.

Come on over here bubba.
Four degrees is cold and you don't get used to it.
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Postby FlintRiverFowler » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:44 am

aunt betty wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:Yeah. Isn't the spring solstice the furthest we tilt away from the sun before we start tilting back? When you can balance an egg on end.
We've had a colder than normal winter this year. At the beginning I was freezing my ass off. Now in the same temps it doesn't even bother me. I've gotten used to it.

Come on over here bubba.
Four degrees is cold and you don't get used to it.

I've been in 4 degrees. Wasn't impressed.
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Postby aunt betty » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:52 am

FlintRiverFowler wrote:
aunt betty wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:Yeah. Isn't the spring solstice the furthest we tilt away from the sun before we start tilting back? When you can balance an egg on end.
We've had a colder than normal winter this year. At the beginning I was freezing my ass off. Now in the same temps it doesn't even bother me. I've gotten used to it.

Come on over here bubba.
Four degrees is cold and you don't get used to it.

I've been in 4 degrees. Wasn't impressed.


Going into the walk in freezer for some meat don't count.

FF lives in an ice box. He don't get cold.
I've heard that it's incredibly stupid to fuck around with a crazy man's head.
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby FlintRiverFowler » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:55 am

aunt betty wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:
aunt betty wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:Yeah. Isn't the spring solstice the furthest we tilt away from the sun before we start tilting back? When you can balance an egg on end.
We've had a colder than normal winter this year. At the beginning I was freezing my ass off. Now in the same temps it doesn't even bother me. I've gotten used to it.

Come on over here bubba.
Four degrees is cold and you don't get used to it.

I've been in 4 degrees. Wasn't impressed.


Going into the walk in freezer for some meat don't count.

FF lives in an ice box. He don't get cold.

I've been to a lot of places around this world. I once stood on a snow covered mountain top in Switzerland in July. It was below freezing out there and i was wearing shorts and tshirt.
Been in negative temps in Colorado snow skiing before too. Just because I'm from the south doesn't make me poor, stupid, racist, or untraveled.
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby aunt betty » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:01 am

FlintRiverFowler wrote:
aunt betty wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:
aunt betty wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:Yeah. Isn't the spring solstice the furthest we tilt away from the sun before we start tilting back? When you can balance an egg on end.
We've had a colder than normal winter this year. At the beginning I was freezing my ass off. Now in the same temps it doesn't even bother me. I've gotten used to it.

Come on over here bubba.
Four degrees is cold and you don't get used to it.

I've been in 4 degrees. Wasn't impressed.


Going into the walk in freezer for some meat don't count.

FF lives in an ice box. He don't get cold.

I've been to a lot of places around this world. I once stood on a snow covered mountain top in Switzerland in July. It was below freezing out there and i was wearing shorts and tshirt.
Been in negative temps in Colorado snow skiing before too. Just because I'm from the south doesn't make me poor, stupid, racist, or untraveled.


I'll admit I've had heat exhaustion many times.
I'd melt if I tried living in Georgia.

Its fucking cold here and NOBODY likes it but you.
Its easy to talk tough when you're not actually sitting at the bus stop shivering.
I've heard that it's incredibly stupid to fuck around with a crazy man's head.
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby FlintRiverFowler » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:06 am

aunt betty wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:
aunt betty wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:
aunt betty wrote:[quote="FlintRiverFowler"]Yeah. Isn't the spring solstice the furthest we tilt away from the sun before we start tilting back? When you can balance an egg on end.
We've had a colder than normal winter this year. At the beginning I was freezing my ass off. Now in the same temps it doesn't even bother me. I've gotten used to it.

Come on over here bubba.
Four degrees is cold and you don't get used to it.

I've been in 4 degrees. Wasn't impressed.


Going into the walk in freezer for some meat don't count.

FF lives in an ice box. He don't get cold.

I've been to a lot of places around this world. I once stood on a snow covered mountain top in Switzerland in July. It was below freezing out there and i was wearing shorts and tshirt.
Been in negative temps in Colorado snow skiing before too. Just because I'm from the south doesn't make me poor, stupid, racist, or untraveled.


I'll admit I've had heat exhaustion many times.
I'd melt if I tried living in Georgia.

Its fucking cold here and NOBODY likes it but you.
Its easy to talk tough when you're not actually sitting at the bus stop shivering.[/quote]
No, you Yankees just like to talk down to me like I've never been in real cold before or seen real snow before.
All I'm saying is I'm not YOUR stereotypical southerner who lives in a shack, married to my cousin, and has never left the county I was born in. Actually I don't even know anybody like that.
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Re: Cold weather actually is in our blood

Postby aunt betty » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:10 am

FlintRiverFowler wrote:
aunt betty wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:
aunt betty wrote:
FlintRiverFowler wrote:[quote="aunt betty"][quote="FlintRiverFowler"]Yeah. Isn't the spring solstice the furthest we tilt away from the sun before we start tilting back? When you can balance an egg on end.
We've had a colder than normal winter this year. At the beginning I was freezing my ass off. Now in the same temps it doesn't even bother me. I've gotten used to it.

Come on over here bubba.
Four degrees is cold and you don't get used to it.

I've been in 4 degrees. Wasn't impressed.


Going into the walk in freezer for some meat don't count.

FF lives in an ice box. He don't get cold.

I've been to a lot of places around this world. I once stood on a snow covered mountain top in Switzerland in July. It was below freezing out there and i was wearing shorts and tshirt.
Been in negative temps in Colorado snow skiing before too. Just because I'm from the south doesn't make me poor, stupid, racist, or untraveled.


I'll admit I've had heat exhaustion many times.
I'd melt if I tried living in Georgia.

Its fucking cold here and NOBODY likes it but you.
Its easy to talk tough when you're not actually sitting at the bus stop shivering.[/quote]
No, you Yankees just like to talk down to me like I've never been in real cold before or seen real snow before.
All I'm saying is I'm not YOUR stereotypical southerner who lives in a shack, married to my cousin, and has never left the county I was born in. Actually I don't even know anybody like that.[/quote]
Flint. You are putting words in my mouth.

I never said you were a cracker.

I'm the cracker. Married my cousin, live in a tent, and am living in the county I was born in.
Christ, I lived in "Rantucky" three years ago in a mobile home with foil curtains.

Its COLD .
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