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Opinions Wanted

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:15 pm
by assateague
Ok, here's the deal. Got a nuisance job involving geese at a golf course. There's a pretty hefty per bird fee, and the owner has a fed permit to kill x number of them. Firearms permitted.


BUT.


They only hang around the ponds which are mixed in with the homes on one side of the course, so guns aren't an option. Had ok luck netting a few, but they generally escape into the ponds and laugh at you. Plus, they don't call it a wild goose chase for nothing. Also had luck putting a loop of FireWire around the nest, then pulling it right before momma can get up and run away. Then you're left with a wild flapping goose to "reel in" using the stick you tied on for a handle at the other end.

Need to get rid of more than 1 or 2 a morning to really make it worthwhile. So here's the question: do you think the G5 small game heads would blow through a goose or stick in a goose, or just stun it long enough to run the last 20 yards and grab it and throw it in the sack?

Don't want to use regular arrows, because having a goose walking around for a week shishkebabed looks bad for everybody, and I'm sure someone would complain. Because they want the geese gone, and don't like them shitting all over their stuff, but believe they go to some magical Disney vacation for geese. This is the last thing I could think of, the small game heads.

Any other ideas are welcomed.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:18 pm
by waterfowlman
Have your dog chase and terrorize them daily.
Gamo pellet gun.
Take a lesson from Foiles. :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:22 pm
by ohioduck
Pellet gun. How bout just field tips

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:23 pm
by Olly
Poison?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:24 pm
by Flightstopper
If you had a welder you could just drop it in the water at full amps. Oh wait. ....

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:24 pm
by capt1972
Gamo!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:28 pm
by aunt betty
AT, the City of Chicago has a not-so-secret force of guys that do what you do.
They use tranquilizer darts and then gas the geese in mobile gas chambers.
I know you're trying to do it the quick and dirty way with the least ppl getting upset.
Ask RMFC about that shotgun with the 4' barrel and how quiet it is.???

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:38 pm
by sws002
aunt betty wrote:AT, the City of Chicago has a not-so-secret force of guys that do what you do.
They use tranquilizer darts and then gas the geese in mobile gas chambers.
I know you're trying to do it the quick and dirty way with the least ppl getting upset.
Ask RMFC about that shotgun with the 4' barrel and how quiet it is.???


Metro barrel!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:39 pm
by outboardman
I don't think game laws apply with a culling permit. You may be able to shoot around the houses as long as you are shooting away from them. I know at our camp in pa they culled the deer in the development. They put out food and kill them there. A huge pile of corn and a couple decoys and you got them.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:41 pm
by capt1972
outboardman wrote:I don't think game laws apply with a culling permit. You may be able to shoot around the houses as long as you are shooting away from them. I know at our camp in pa they culled the deer in the development. They put out food and kill them there.

Not in Maryland! :D

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:46 pm
by aunt betty
I'd use this as an excuse to buy one of them Benjamin air rifles.
Bet you could shoot two or three out of a bunch if you shoot the right ones.
Not sure but I think you take out the sentries.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:35 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
Airforce Condor SS

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:53 pm
by sws002
DeadEye_Dan wrote:Airforce Condor SS


Is Dan calling in an air strike?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:57 pm
by Olly
Arsenic laced corn, spread it all around their nest and come back the next morning early before the golfers.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:08 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
sws002 wrote:
DeadEye_Dan wrote:Airforce Condor SS


Is Dan calling in an air strike?


Google search that shit.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:13 pm
by aunt betty
DeadEye_Dan wrote:
sws002 wrote:
DeadEye_Dan wrote:Airforce Condor SS


Is Dan calling in an air strike?


Google search that shit.
it's a rifle

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:17 pm
by assateague
Betty, if I thought I could go buy quarts of animal tranquilizer, do you think I'd just be hustling a few hundred bucks killing critters?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:22 pm
by assateague
Can I buy arsenic? Even if I could, it's not the best idea. Don't want a bunch of dead geese floating/laying around for the next few weeks. Need in and out solutions.

As for the guns, it's not the legality of it, it's the attention it would draw. Unwanted attention. If I could find some CCI subsonic, that'd be ideal.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:25 pm
by The Duck Hammer
Get those rubber blunt points and aim for the neck/head. You should be able to pull that off.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:30 pm
by Mornin Beef
wait til they molt and then go just pick them up. can you outrun a goose? teaching them exactly who your wily coyote ass is on a very personal level wont help you.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:34 pm
by gila-river
First of all how the hell do I get a job like this. Next I would echo the air gun nominations. Some of them are pretty badass and accurate.set you up a lawn chair and plink away.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:42 pm
by Mornin Beef
a pellet gun is probably an assault weapon in maryland by the time he makes the move tho.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:43 pm
by aunt betty
They use dogs at the golf courses here. Very effective but how do you profit off that?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:50 pm
by hudson
I'd use an arrow tipped with a mechanical broadhead with a 2 inch cut or better.if you hit it it's gonna die.rage or grim reapers are a couple.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:53 pm
by gila-river
How close can you get to the birds? What about that guillotine broad head for turkey's?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:54 pm
by Tomkat
hudson wrote:I'd use an arrow tipped with a mechanical broadhead with a 2 inch cut or better.if you hit it it's gonna die.rage or grim reapers are a couple.


This is how I would do it. Guillotine is another one.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:56 pm
by Mornin Beef
if you found a tennis ball and packed it with match heads you found it would be ripe for throwing at geese.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:03 pm
by gila-river

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:04 pm
by The Duck Hammer
Those are shit with modern bows. You got one shot then they are trashed.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:07 pm
by aunt betty
Do you think a broadhead shot from a crossbow would go clean thru a goose?
NM...
Archery is a bad idea.
If you miss or hit and lose your arrow...there's a nasty hazard. Mix it with a lawnmower....Gee God forget archery.