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mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:20 am
by aunt betty
How mch per acre?
Two acres wirh many trees.
Homeowner refuses to trim trees that have branches touching the ground and are a hazard.
Damn near knocks me off the mower.
How much extra for the pita factor?

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:49 am
by jehler
150?

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:56 am
by Eric Haynes
One time deal or regular schedule? 300ish for one time. 200-250 For regular. Depends on your equipment and their pockets.

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Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:13 pm
by aunt betty
Just wondered what it is worth. Kinda figured it was around 75/acre.
Four times a month....five months is around 3000/season not counting getting limbs when it storms.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:42 pm
by assateague
$1 a minute.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 2:11 pm
by Eric Haynes
assateague wrote:$1 a minute.


That would be a good rate for push mowing.

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Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:24 pm
by assateague
That's pretty much the going rate around here for landscape companies, with no trimming. Trimming is another $1 a minute.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:34 pm
by aunt betty
Using a JD 160.
Takes about 4hours. Lots of turning and trees to go around.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:36 pm
by assateague
See? Eric said 200-250, and at my $1 a minute, that puts you at $240. I'd go with $1 a minute. Give him some incentive to trim the damn trees.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:46 pm
by Eric Haynes
assateague wrote:See? Eric said 200-250, and at my $1 a minute, that puts you at $240. I'd go with $1 a minute. Give him some incentive to trim the damn trees.

Don't be that guy that undercuts a pro by half, unless you just suck that bad at cutting.

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Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:48 pm
by assateague
Who undercut? I was saying the $1 is actually pretty accurate, and came in on the high end of your range.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:52 pm
by Eric Haynes
assateague wrote:Who undercut? I was saying the $1 is actually pretty accurate, and came in on the high end of your range.


No no. I was tellinng betty not to be that guy. Your estimate is the same as mine.

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Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:57 pm
by assateague
Gotcha.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:23 pm
by Eric Haynes
While I understand the purpose of bidding low, the people who do a job for next to nothing piss me off. Ussually do a terrible job and put a bad name out for contractors.

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Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:48 pm
by The Duck Hammer
aunt betty wrote:How mch per acre? $50 (Assuming that it is just mowing or little weed eating)
Two acres wirh many trees. $100
Homeowner refuses to trim trees that have branches touching the ground and are a hazard. $150
Damn near knocks me off the mower.
How much extra for the pita factor?


That's what I would charge around here. Worst one I have is about a half acre that has tones of fucking flower beds in it. I have to push mow it because a riding mower will not fit.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:00 pm
by Eric Haynes
The Duck Hammer wrote:
aunt betty wrote:How mch per acre? $50 (Assuming that it is just mowing or little weed eating)
Two acres wirh many trees. $100
Homeowner refuses to trim trees that have branches touching the ground and are a hazard. $150
Damn near knocks me off the mower.
How much extra for the pita factor?


That's what I would charge around here. Worst one I have is about a half acre that has tones of fucking flower beds in it. I have to push mow it because a riding mower will not fit.


You would cut 2 acres and 4 hours for $100?

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Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:03 pm
by The Duck Hammer
Eric Haynes wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:
aunt betty wrote:How mch per acre? $50 (Assuming that it is just mowing or little weed eating)
Two acres wirh many trees. $100
Homeowner refuses to trim trees that have branches touching the ground and are a hazard. $150
Damn near knocks me off the mower.
How much extra for the pita factor?


That's what I would charge around here. Worst one I have is about a half acre that has tones of fucking flower beds in it. I have to push mow it because a riding mower will not fit.


You would cut 2 acres and 4 hours for $100?

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I cut 5 acres, seedeater a pipe and cattle panel fence, 4 ditch lines and sprayed a 2 acre gravel lot for $125 a week. That's what it goes for around here. $25 an hour for easy work is good money. Its a hell of a lot better than splitting wood or laying brick.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:09 pm
by Eric Haynes
The Duck Hammer wrote:
Eric Haynes wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:
aunt betty wrote:How mch per acre? $50 (Assuming that it is just mowing or little weed eating)
Two acres wirh many trees. $100
Homeowner refuses to trim trees that have branches touching the ground and are a hazard. $150
Damn near knocks me off the mower.
How much extra for the pita factor?


That's what I would charge around here. Worst one I have is about a half acre that has tones of fucking flower beds in it. I have to push mow it because a riding mower will not fit.


You would cut 2 acres and 4 hours for $100?

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I cut 5 acres, seedeater a pipe and cattle panel fence, 4 ditch lines and sprayed a 2 acre gravel lot for $125 a week. That's what it goes for around here. $25 an hour for easy work is good money. Its a hell of a lot better than splitting wood or laying brick.


Couldn't make a living off that here. Would be nice though.

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Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:12 pm
by rebelp74
Not relevant to the topic but what is minimum wage up there? Here it's $7.25 or $7.50/hour.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:14 pm
by The Duck Hammer
rebelp74 wrote:Not relevant to the topic but what is minimum wage up there? Here it's $7.25 or $7.50/hour.

That's what it is here. Average annual salary is like $30,000 where I live. When they did the census there was only a hand full of people making over $100,000 in the area.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:32 pm
by Eric Haynes
The Duck Hammer wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:Not relevant to the topic but what is minimum wage up there? Here it's $7.25 or $7.50/hour.

That's what it is here. Average annual salary is like $30,000 where I live. When they did the census there was only a hand full of people making over $100,000 in the area.


Probably the same mean income here, but you couldn't make a living cutting grass for $25 an hour as a business owner. Your expenses would eat up a large chunk of that

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Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:02 pm
by aunt betty
woa woa woa...someone said those terrible words "minimum wage".
To me, minimum wage=minimum effort and almost zero responsibility.
You get what you pay for.

Been mowing my landlords 2-acre lawn for free since I don't pay rent. I have to maintain the tractor as well.
The landlord wants to start collecting rent so I'm gunna have to start charging for the stuff I do.
This will NOT go over well.

The landlord is my mother and she wants BOTH.
Pay for the house rent and maintain another as caretaker. (for free)
In the center of this dilemma is a jonboat I payed money for last fall.
They are holding the titles to the trailer and boat until we figure out how my mom can collect rent AND maintain the second property for free. This has me walking on eggshells and losing sleep.

I'm sure my mother would be glad to pay you $8.75/hour for the four hours it takes. You volunteering?
$35/week EASY MONEY...lol

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:29 pm
by 3legged_lab
Eric Haynes wrote:
assateague wrote:See? Eric said 200-250, and at my $1 a minute, that puts you at $240. I'd go with $1 a minute. Give him some incentive to trim the damn trees.

Don't be that guy that undercuts a pro by half, unless you just suck that bad at cutting.

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Whoa, pump the brakes. A "pro"? We're still talking about cutting fucking grass, right? Its not golf course turf management is it?

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:39 am
by Eric Haynes
3legged_lab wrote:
Eric Haynes wrote:
assateague wrote:See? Eric said 200-250, and at my $1 a minute, that puts you at $240. I'd go with $1 a minute. Give him some incentive to trim the damn trees.

Don't be that guy that undercuts a pro by half, unless you just suck that bad at cutting.

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Whoa, pump the brakes. A "pro"? We're still talking about cutting fucking grass, right? Its not golf course turf management is it?


Pro meaning professional....meaning getting paid to do a job. Look it up. I am revering to the guys who cut grass for a living. You might be confusing pro with expert.

I was just telling Betty to not undercut the guy trying to make a living doing it by half.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:00 am
by jehler
Eric that is the American way, undercutting keeps us honest

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:55 am
by Tomkat
jehler wrote:Eric that is the American way, undercutting keeps us honest


Competition is good for the consumer. Look at cell phones. We need like 37 more companies to provide service. Then the rates would fall.


Why your no daisy at all....

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:03 am
by jehler
LOTS of guys out there undercutting me, if I can't sell the customer on why I'm worth it i ain't got no business charging it

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:13 am
by Tomkat
jehler wrote:LOTS of guys out there undercutting me, if I can't sell the customer on why I'm worth it i ain't got no business charging it


Exactly right. You can get it cheap, or you can get it good, but you never get it cheap and good.

Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:47 pm
by Eric Haynes
jehler wrote:LOTS of guys out there undercutting me, if I can't sell the customer on why I'm worth it i ain't got no business charging it


Here we have COs that swap shifts with each other so they end up working 4 days on and 8 days off. Most of them do roofing/siding/flooring on the side. Key is, none of them carry insurance or get permits. With no overhead they will always be lower in price. I live in NY...home of the great Cuomo. We are broke and the majority of homeowners will take lowest bid no matter how good your work is. Including Elhers good. Almost all of my work is new houses, garages and city/county work. All things ypu can't do without being legit.

I'm not bitching. If i had the work schedule they did, id do it too...except id carry insurance.

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Re: mowing rates

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:48 pm
by assateague
Tomkat wrote:
jehler wrote:LOTS of guys out there undercutting me, if I can't sell the customer on why I'm worth it i ain't got no business charging it


Exactly right. You can get it cheap, or you can get it good, but you never get it cheap and good.


The phrase here is "cheap, right, or fast- pick two".