Page 5 of 6

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:25 pm
by rebelp74
jarbo03 wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:I've never even had corned beef before, so I'm not really sure what is supposed to taste like. I'm guessing similar to pastrami that wasn't smoked. I will say it is extra clovey tasting. I also didn't use pink salt, after further googling I found a few recipes saying it wasn't necessary.

Pink salt just adds the red color as well as chemically cooking the meat to make the shelf-life longer.



Would seem wrong without the coloring.

Would this be why my turned out grey in the middle instead red all the way through?

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:26 pm
by capt1972
could be. the red tends to be saltier also.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:27 pm
by rebelp74
The red area was without a doubt better tasting.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:30 pm
by capt1972
rebelp74 wrote:The red area was without a doubt better tasting.

I also agree with Assa that it would take longer to corn pork due to the denseness of the meat compared to red meats.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:34 pm
by rebelp74
capt1972 wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:The red area was without a doubt better tasting.

I also agree with Assa that it would take longer to corn pork due to the denseness of the meat compared to red meats.

I'm letting the rest go for at least another week.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:37 pm
by capt1972
rebelp74 wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:The red area was without a doubt better tasting.

I also agree with Assa that it would take longer to corn pork due to the denseness of the meat compared to red meats.

I'm letting the rest go for at least another week.

The good thing is if you find you've "over brined" it, you can change the water in the cooking pot and continue to draw more salt out.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:49 pm
by assateague
capt1972 wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:The red area was without a doubt better tasting.

I also agree with Assa that it would take longer to corn pork due to the denseness of the meat compared to red meats.



Hey jack, that wasn't me, was just something I read. But it does make sense.


capt1972 wrote:The good thing is if you find you've "over brined" it, you can change the water in the cooking pot and continue to draw more salt out.


This here. Technically, you could boil that thing for 12 hours, just changing the water, and it'd never get tough or overdone, would just get blander. (Is that a word?) Go for too much brine, then tone it down with the water.

(Listen to me, talking like I know what the hell I'm saying. I've done this all of about 6 times so far in my life :lol: )

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:51 pm
by rebelp74
assateague wrote:
capt1972 wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:The red area was without a doubt better tasting.

I also agree with Assa that it would take longer to corn pork due to the denseness of the meat compared to red meats.



Hey jack, that wasn't me, was just something I read. But it does make sense.


capt1972 wrote:The good thing is if you find you've "over brined" it, you can change the water in the cooking pot and continue to draw more salt out.


This here. Technically, you could boil that thing for 12 hours, just changing the water, and it'd never get tough or overdone, would just get blander. (Is that a word?) Go for too much brine, then tone it down with the water.

(Listen to me, talking like I know what the hell I'm saying. I've done this all of about 6 times so far in my life :lol: )

:lol: :lol: :lol: At least you've done it and had it before. Hell I have no clue what corned meat is even supposed to taste like.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:55 pm
by rebelp74
Wonder if a little vinegar in the brine would work or would it start cooking or breaking down the meat too much.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:58 pm
by capt1972
rebelp74 wrote:Wonder if a little vinegar in the brine would work or would it start cooking or breaking down the meat too much.

Maybe a little cider vinegar, and I mean a little. Most should evaporate off during cooking.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:03 pm
by assateague
rebelp74 wrote:Wonder if a little vinegar in the brine would work or would it start cooking or breaking down the meat too much.



That's gonna pickle it. I don't think you want that.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:04 pm
by capt1972
assateague wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:Wonder if a little vinegar in the brine would work or would it start cooking or breaking down the meat too much.



That's gonna pickle it. I don't think you want that.

I said a little. Meaning a few tablespoons.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:30 pm
by Feelin' Fowl
Ok. 3 hours of simmering is up. It's really tough.

To much simmer or not enough?

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:35 pm
by Feelin' Fowl
I'm thinking a few more hours to make it tender

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:13 pm
by assateague
You need to slice it across the grain. Try a piece cut that way. Corned beef is made to be sliced like that (across the grain), not really eaten in chunks like a steak.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:15 pm
by Feelin' Fowl
We make corned beef a lot. It always comes out tender.

This stuff isn't even flimsy yet

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:21 pm
by assateague
Hmmmm....

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:23 pm
by Feelin' Fowl
I added cool water while simmering. I'm thinking it slowed the cooking process.

Has a great flavor though!

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:39 am
by Feelin' Fowl
Finished. I'm a fan.

Did you guys "simmer" yours covered?

I think the next batch is going in the crock pot...

Thoughts on this brine as a jerky marinade?

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:54 am
by rebelp74
Mine was covered. It seemed as though it could be tough but it wasn't. Was yours brined all the way through?

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:21 am
by Feelin' Fowl
There was a very small spot in the middle that was still gray. Maybe the diameter of a pen...

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:50 am
by jehler
Try baking it covered on a rack over liquid at 250, I use carrots and celery for a rack. Way better I think, you can season the meat with a little extra pepper and it sticks, stays saltier to which I like

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:29 am
by assateague
I'm going to try that next time. It does lose too much salt when boiling, IMO.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:08 am
by jarbo03
Might have to try it that way also. Be hard to cook it any other way than sous vide though.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:06 pm
by Feelin' Fowl
Forgot about my second bag of geese sitting in the brine in my fridge. Went 14 days. Went to bag then up and freeze them, and one looks weird. The extra time definitely made the meat more pink/red, but one breast took on a brown color on the outer edgea, rather than the normal "goose purple".

Anybody seen this before? Think it's still ok to cook?

Not the best picture, but it's the one on the top.

uploadfromtaptalk1390791969333.jpg

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:10 pm
by capt1972
it'll be awrite

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:28 pm
by assateague
Looks fine to me. I suspect you could leave them sitting in that brine a looooooooooooooong time before anything bad happened.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:30 pm
by capt1972
assateague wrote:Looks fine to me. I suspect you could leave them sitting in that brine a looooooooooooooong time before anything bad happened.

I don't think anything bad could happen. Pickles sit in a brine for years.

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:42 pm
by Feelin' Fowl
The color just concerned me. Not sure why one breast of 9 would be so different.

Guess we'll find out if it's ok!

Re: capt72 corned goose

PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:04 pm
by capt1972
Feelin' Fowl wrote:The color just concerned me. Not sure why one breast of 9 would be so different.

Guess we'll find out if it's ok!

might of had a little more blood in it???