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Postby aunt betty » Mon May 26, 2014 1:50 pm

Oh boy this thread could get ugly...

In the last few years I took up gardening in a big way and then started making my own pasta sauce which led to making my own pizza dough so why not try making fresh mozarella?

I made cheese today.
This recipe
http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2012 ... ozzarella/

It's turned out ok but is still in the ice water cooling. Will make a pizza later.
From what the wife and I tasted we were disappointed at first. IT'S NOT SOUR?!?

There isn't much flavor but after a minute you taste it. Can't believe we made cheese that's edible on the first try.

Sorry AT, didn't take any pictures because I expected it to be a failure. We used pasteurized milk from the grocery store.
Raw works more better.


NOT SOUR!

not sour at all :qh: :qh: :qh: :qh:
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Re: Cheese

Postby Bootlipkiller » Mon May 26, 2014 2:00 pm

Go to the grocery store and buy it
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Re: Cheese

Postby assateague » Mon May 26, 2014 2:09 pm

Where's the fun in that? I've wanted to make cheese for a while, but didn't know you could make it with pasteurized milk.
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Re: Cheese

Postby Bootlipkiller » Mon May 26, 2014 2:15 pm

assateague wrote:Where's the fun in that? I've wanted to make cheese for a while, but didn't know you could make it with pasteurized milk.

I would never characterize making cheese as fun. :lol:
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Re: Cheese

Postby aunt betty » Mon May 26, 2014 2:16 pm

Bootlipkiller wrote:Go to the grocery store and buy it

Up until about six months ago we could get fresh mozarella at the store that was so fresh it could not be shredded. Had to slice it. The store can't get that anymore so I'm trying to make fresh. There is a difference in the way it melts. If you want it to string all out like a rubber band when you pick up a slice...fresh cheese is mandatory.

I made dough this morning and then some cheese. The sauce is already made.
My wife loves pizza.
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Re: Cheese

Postby DeadEye_Dan » Mon May 26, 2014 2:18 pm

It's 80° here today. I made some cheeses as well.
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Re: Cheese

Postby Bootlipkiller » Mon May 26, 2014 2:19 pm

Nut cheese
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Re: Cheese

Postby AKPirate » Mon May 26, 2014 2:39 pm

Time to cut some
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Re: Cheese

Postby aunt betty » Mon May 26, 2014 2:41 pm

Assa, pasteurized milk doesn't bind itself together as well and you have to heat it up until its literally melted liquid cheese and then cool it down. I didn't quite take mine up high enough in heat and possibly made another mistake.


We found a different recipe that mentions that you should not use straight up tap water because the chemicals in the public water supply kill the enzymes in the rennet. Next time Im heating it more and using distilled water. It only takes 1.25 cups water for the recipe.

Today was my first try and through this summer Iĺl do it more and get better. Will share my experience because I know assa wants to try this too.

The first try was to see if it is worth my time to travel to Arcola to get raw milk. (it is totally worth it)
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Re: Cheese

Postby assateague » Mon May 26, 2014 2:49 pm

I have to drive all the way to Pennsylvania, since the peoples republic treats raw milk as a class IV narcotic, apparently.
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Re: Cheese

Postby Olly » Mon May 26, 2014 3:41 pm

Bootlipkiller wrote:Go to the grocery store and buy it


Gonna die when the SHTF with that attitude.

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Re: Cheese

Postby waterfowlman » Mon May 26, 2014 3:44 pm

Bootlipkiller wrote:
assateague wrote:Where's the fun in that? I've wanted to make cheese for a while, but didn't know you could make it with pasteurized milk.

I would never characterize making cheese as fun. :lol:


Depends on what kind you make.
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Re: Cheese

Postby Bootlipkiller » Mon May 26, 2014 4:06 pm

Olly wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:Go to the grocery store and buy it


Gonna die when the SHTF with that attitude.

Good thread AB!

Hahahaha ok
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Re: Cheese

Postby aunt betty » Mon May 26, 2014 4:17 pm

I was over at my neighbors cooking out. Got talking and they said The University of Illinois has a market where they sell meat, eggs, and milk from their ag college farms south of Urbana Champaign. .. I can get raw milk in town. Awesome.
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Re: Cheese

Postby aunt betty » Mon May 26, 2014 4:34 pm

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Re: Cheese

Postby Redbeard » Mon May 26, 2014 4:35 pm

Bootlipkiller wrote:
Olly wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:Go to the grocery store and buy it


Gonna die when the SHTF with that attitude.

Good thread AB!

Hahahaha ok
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Re: Cheese

Postby aunt betty » Mon May 26, 2014 4:41 pm

I tell you what...bring a couple milk cows, an ar or two, plenty of ammo to guard the cows and yeah.
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Re: Cheese

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Re: Cheese

Postby aunt betty » Mon May 26, 2014 4:49 pm

Not quite sure I will call it success. It browns a bit weird. Not bad for first try.
It will get better. Definitely cheese, just not good cheese. :)
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Re: Cheese

Postby Bootlipkiller » Mon May 26, 2014 4:54 pm

Looks good betty
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Re: Cheese

Postby Redbeard » Mon May 26, 2014 4:55 pm

Bootlipkiller wrote:Looks good betty
it actually does
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Re: Cheese

Postby Bootlipkiller » Mon May 26, 2014 4:56 pm

Redbeard wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:Looks good betty
it actually does

I'm still not making my own cheese! :lol:
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Re: Cheese

Postby Redbeard » Mon May 26, 2014 4:57 pm

Bootlipkiller wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
Bootlipkiller wrote:Looks good betty
it actually does

I'm still not making my own cheese! :lol:
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Re: Cheese

Postby Feelin' Fowl » Mon May 26, 2014 5:01 pm

Nice, AB! :thumbsup:
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Re: Cheese

Postby aunt betty » Mon May 26, 2014 5:14 pm

Thanks for positive responses.
It was edible and it was cheese but not like I was hoping for.
It made a crusty layer on top and the underneath was light and cheesy but not flowing and gooey like I wanted.

At one point while making it I was almost ready to feed it to the dogs but tossed it in the microwave again and started messing with it. My fingers smelled like really good cheese when I was messing with it. My wife says the flavor is good. Will keep working on it.

There's also a farm in Champaign I found that has goats. Maybe I can get some fresh goats milk to work with.
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Re: Cheese

Postby AKPirate » Mon May 26, 2014 5:16 pm

aunt betty wrote:Thanks for positive responses.
It was edible and it was cheese but not like I was hoping for.
It made a crusty layer on top and the underneath was light and cheesy but not flowing and gooey like I wanted.

At one point while making it I was almost ready to feed it to the dogs but tossed it in the microwave again and started messing with it.

Theres also a farm in Champaign I found that has goats. Maybe I can get some fresh goats milk to work with.


Can you make a velvetta type cheese with long shelf life?
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Re: Cheese

Postby aunt betty » Mon May 26, 2014 5:18 pm

AKPirate wrote:
aunt betty wrote:Thanks for positive responses.
It was edible and it was cheese but not like I was hoping for.
It made a crusty layer on top and the underneath was light and cheesy but not flowing and gooey like I wanted.

At one point while making it I was almost ready to feed it to the dogs but tossed it in the microwave again and started messing with it.

Theres also a farm in Champaign I found that has goats. Maybe I can get some fresh goats milk to work with.


Can you make a velvetta type cheese with long shelf life?

I dont know. I just want some good pizza cheese and have seen people making it on cooking shows on tv.
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Re: Cheese

Postby assateague » Mon May 26, 2014 7:50 pm

Did you use vegetable or animal rennet? I've heard that getting the curds to set with vegetable rennet is a lot more unreliable than animal.



For the record: if you get a fetal pig, remove the stomach and salt it heavily to preserve it. Then cut a quarter-sized piece for each gallon and a half of milk, and it'll separate. The enzymes are only present in a fetal pig stomach, not once it's been born.

How somebody discovered this is how you get rennet, I have no idea, but I have it on good authority that this works.
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Re: Cheese

Postby Bootlipkiller » Mon May 26, 2014 7:53 pm

assateague wrote:Did you use vegetable or animal rennet? I've heard that getting the curds to set with vegetable rennet is a lot more unreliable than animal.



For the record: if you get a fetal pig, remove the stomach and salt it heavily to preserve it. Then cut a quarter-sized piece for each gallon and a half of milk, and it'll separate. The enzymes are only present in a fetal pig stomach, not once it's been born.

How somebody discovered this is how you get rennet, I have no idea, but I have it on good authority that this works.

Or you could just get it from the store :lol:
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