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I've had this pic in my phone for a while and can't remember if I've posted it here yet. Thought boot and gadwall would like it. A guy I hunt with shot this speck in a spot I've hunted many, many times - I've never seen anything like it there.

Digital snow camo. Birds are evolving

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That's I'd very interesting. I've never seen anything like that ether! Very cool thanks for sharing.

5th generation snow/speck cross. You can tell it's not a 4th generation because there is no white on the primaries.

assateague wrote:5th generation snow/speck cross. You can tell it's not a 4th generation because there is no white on the primaries.

I can't tell if you're very knowledgeable or very funny right now.


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FlintRiverFowler wrote:

assateague wrote:5th generation snow/speck cross. You can tell it's not a 4th generation because there is no white on the primaries.

I can't tell if you're very knowledgeable or very funny right now.


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I'm going with funny!:)

assateague wrote:5th generation snow/speck cross. You can tell it's not a 4th generation because there is no white on the primaries.

always gotta be a smart ass huh

Redbeard wrote:

assateague wrote:5th generation snow/speck cross. You can tell it's not a 4th generation because there is no white on the primaries.

always gotta be a smart ass huh

Can't blame him. You can say anything with certainty no matter how bullshit it is as someone will buy it.

Bootlipkiller wrote:

Redbeard wrote:

assateague wrote:5th generation snow/speck cross. You can tell it's not a 4th generation because there is no white on the primaries.

always gotta be a smart ass huh

Can't blame him. You can say anything with certainty no matter how bullshit it is as someone will buy it.

Exactly. It's all in the delivery.

FlintRiverFowler wrote:

assateague wrote:5th generation snow/speck cross. You can tell it's not a 4th generation because there is no white on the primaries.

I can't tell if you're very knowledgeable or very funny right now.


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He's talking out of his ass.

No, I'm serious this time. When I got into snow geese big time many moons ago, I read a lot. There was a study done on Southampton Island in Hudson Bay where they breed and nest by three ornithological biologists from Nunavut, paid for by the University of Calgary. They were interested in the cross-breeding among species, since it seems to be far more common in snows than any other species of goose. They found that it was possible to track the genetic lineage, as long as one of the mating pair was a pure snow goose (they tried to track hybrid to hybrid matings with DNA testing, but found that the markers were too similar to give any sort of statistically significant result). The dominant gene through the first three breedings was always that of the snow, although they had no idea why. At the onset of the fourth generation, it "flipped" the opposite way, with snow goose genes taking the recessive role. They found that only the primaries and upper tail coverts remained white. Going into the next generation, the outbreeder took over all but the scapular and some spinal feathering, but even that was mixed. They found no 5th generation hybrids which maintained any "pure" snow characteristics. Thus, what you've got is a fifth generation snow-speck cross, the great-great-great-great-grandson of a snow who was raped by a speck.

assateague wrote:No, I'm serious this time. When I got into snow geese big time many moons ago, I read a lot. There was a study done on Southampton Island in Hudson Bay where they breed and nest by three ornithological biologists from Nunavut, paid for by the University of Calgary. They were interested in the cross-breeding among species, since it seems to be far more common in snows than any other species of goose. They found that it was possible to track the genetic lineage, as long as one of the mating pair was a pure snow goose (they tried to track hybrid to hybrid matings with DNA testing, but found that the markers were too similar to give any sort of statistically significant result). The dominant gene through the first three breedings was always that of the snow, although they had no idea why. At the onset of the fourth generation, it "flipped" the opposite way, with snow goose genes taking the recessive role. They found that only the primaries and upper tail coverts remained white. Going into the next generation, the outbreeder took over all but the scapular and some spinal feathering, but even that was mixed. They found no 5th generation hybrids which maintained any "pure" snow characteristics. Thus, what you've got is a fifth generation snow-speck cross, the great-great-great-great-grandson of a snow who was raped by a speck.

Key to a good lie is not to use too much information. You just blew it.

But yes, I am talking out of my ass. I just had to throw up a link to give you a moment's pause.

assateague wrote:But yes, I am talking out of my ass. I just had to throw up a link to give you a moment's pause.

I didn't bite. You can't shit a shitter

I didn't believe him for a second, but you can bet your ass I'm using that material the next duck I'd thread that I beat him to

I would have been disappointed if anybody but Dale had believed it. It's not the initial belief, it's the convincing after the fact that's fun. Just didn't have enough energy last night. I blame the Taco Bell. And the Robertsons.

But all in all a neat bird. I've learned to never believe shit AT says. He tried to get me to drink mustard for some remedy once. He's a sly bastard.

assateague wrote:I would have been disappointed if anybody but Dale had believed it. It's not the initial belief, it's the convincing after the fact that's fun. Just didn't have enough energy last night. I blame the Taco Bell. And the Robertsons.

Nice work though, I bet you could sell cars like a mofo.

Westie25 wrote:But all in all a neat bird. I've learned to never believe shit AT says. He tried to get me to drink mustard for some remedy once. He's a sly bastard.

He tried to get me to piss on my dog...


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NuffDaddy wrote:

Westie25 wrote:But all in all a neat bird. I've learned to never believe shit AT says. He tried to get me to drink mustard for some remedy once. He's a sly bastard.

He tried to get me to piss on my dog...


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Didn't he try to convince someone to piss on their iPhone too?

assateague wrote:I would have been disappointed if anybody but Dale had believed it. It's not the initial belief, it's the convincing after the fact that's fun. Just didn't have enough energy last night. I blame the Taco Bell. And the Robertsons.

Whys it always me?

I apologize, Dale, I forgot you were there.

Westie25 wrote:But all in all a neat bird. I've learned to never believe shit AT says. He tried to get me to drink mustard for some remedy once. He's a sly bastard.

I forgot about that one

I wish I had real friends. I even get bullied on the internet.

assateague wrote:I apologize, Dale, I forgot you were there.

You may go now. Leave the shotgun.

3legged_lab wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Westie25 wrote:But all in all a neat bird. I've learned to never believe shit AT says. He tried to get me to drink mustard for some remedy once. He's a sly bastard.

He tried to get me to piss on my dog...


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Didn't he try to convince someone to piss on their iPhone too?

Don't know. Wouldn't surprise me.


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If I did, I don't remember that one.

3legged_lab wrote:

NuffDaddy wrote:

Westie25 wrote:But all in all a neat bird. I've learned to never believe shit AT says. He tried to get me to drink mustard for some remedy once. He's a sly bastard.

He tried to get me to piss on my dog...


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Didn't he try to convince someone to piss on their iPhone too?

Didn't he get Nuff to shake his iPhone to clear out something and make it work faster?