Browning A5 question.

[jarbo03]

BS, still relevant to those who want a good gun. They have no marketing is why it seems that way.

[The Duck Hammer]

BS, still relevant to those who want a good gun. They have no marketing is why it seems that way.

Jerry gets it.

[assateague]

The A5 is apparently the hipster of shotguns.

[sws002]

Show me a modern shotgun that uses friction rings and has the barrel recoil into the receiver and I will consider the A5 modern and relevant. I'm not saying it wasn't a good gun in it's day, but they are way overrated.

[The Duck Hammer]

Franchi 48 AL

[jarbo03]

Show me a modern shotgun that uses friction rings and has the barrel recoil into the receiver and I will consider the A5 modern and relevant. I'm not saying it wasn't a good gun in it's day, but they are way overrated.

Too expensive to make the same gun today, and they do kick more than modern autos. If todays autos are still functionibg and being used 100 years from now, you might have an argument.

[sws002]

Show me a modern shotgun that uses friction rings and has the barrel recoil into the receiver and I will consider the A5 modern and relevant. I'm not saying it wasn't a good gun in it's day, but they are way overrated.

Too expensive to make the same gun today, and they do kick more than modern autos. If todays autos are still functionibg and being used 100 years from now, you might have an argument.

I'd bet good money that there are modern semi's out there with more than twice as many rounds through them as even the most reliable Auto 5.

[Redbeard]

You guys are all pee pee heads who's dads made you shoot cheap monkey wards pumps and mossbergs growing up and can't appreciate fine craftsmanship

[assateague]

Does it take you a while to get to work in your Model T?

[Rick]

Franchi 48 AL

You're a lot older than I thought, if 1948 is your idea of "modern".

[jarbo03]

Show me a modern shotgun that uses friction rings and has the barrel recoil into the receiver and I will consider the A5 modern and relevant. I'm not saying it wasn't a good gun in it's day, but they are way overrated.

Too expensive to make the same gun today, and they do kick more than modern autos. If todays autos are still functionibg and being used 100 years from now, you might have an argument.

I'd bet good money that there are modern semi's out there with more than twice as many rounds through them as even the most reliable Auto 5.

It's possible, no way to tell. Guns aren't made fpr almost 100 years and have the following they do by being junk. My 1954, which has never had the bolt removed is as tight and smooth as the day it was made, can't beat the fit and finish

[Rick]

If todays autos are still functionibg and being used 100 years from now, you might have an argument.

Those that spent most of that time in Grandpa's attic will no doubt be considered unbeatable classics by their proud owners.

[The Duck Hammer]

Franchi 48 AL

You're a lot older than I thought, if 1948 is your idea of "modern".

I actually googled long recoil and picked the one gun that wasn't an exact clone of the Auto 5.

[Rick]

That gun was popular with some Appalachian ruffed grousers when I was a kid, because it carried like a Daisy BB gun. But even with light 2 3/4" loads, it kicked like Grandpa's mule. Doubt many have been shot a great deal.

[The Duck Hammer]

Looks like a nice gun. May have to look into getting one of I ever want a 28.

[jarbo03]

That gun was popular with some Appalachian ruffed grousers when I was a kid, because it carried like a Daisy BB gun. But even with light 2 3/4" loads, it kicked like Grandpa's mule. Doubt many have been shot a great deal.

Nice as a 20, brutal as a 12. Kicks like a donkey. Badass on a 28 frame.

[sws002]

Show me a modern shotgun that uses friction rings and has the barrel recoil into the receiver and I will consider the A5 modern and relevant. I'm not saying it wasn't a good gun in it's day, but they are way overrated.

Too expensive to make the same gun today, and they do kick more than modern autos. If todays autos are still functionibg and being used 100 years from now, you might have an argument.

I'd bet good money that there are modern semi's out there with more than twice as many rounds through them as even the most reliable Auto 5.

It's possible, no way to tell. Guns aren't made fpr almost 100 years and have the following they do by being junk. My 1954, which has never had the bolt removed is as tight and smooth as the day it was made, can't beat the fit and finish

There really is though, take the cleanest, slickest Auto 5 and any one of today's autos and run them side by side until they quit, you can't tell me you'd put money on the Auto 5. 100 years isn't really a fair argument, because it's likely that today's guns see more rounds through them in 5 years than most Auto 5's did in 50.

[The Duck Hammer]

Show me a modern shotgun that uses friction rings and has the barrel recoil into the receiver and I will consider the A5 modern and relevant. I'm not saying it wasn't a good gun in it's day, but they are way overrated.

Too expensive to make the same gun today, and they do kick more than modern autos. If todays autos are still functionibg and being used 100 years from now, you might have an argument.

I'd bet good money that there are modern semi's out there with more than twice as many rounds through them as even the most reliable Auto 5.

It's possible, no way to tell. Guns aren't made fpr almost 100 years and have the following they do by being junk. My 1954, which has never had the bolt removed is as tight and smooth as the day it was made, can't beat the fit and finish

There really is though, take the cleanest, slickest Auto 5 and any one of today's autos and run them side by side until they quit, you can't tell me you'd put money on the Auto 5. 100 years isn't really a fair argument, because it's likely that today's guns see more rounds through them in 5 years than most Auto 5's did in 50.

I think the Auto would have a fair chance. Browning's stress tests were brutal. Course his shotguns probably didn't go through the same tests as the pistols and machine guns did but his record speaks for itself on gun reliability.

[jarbo03]

Frim what i've seen in the field and the blind, the A5 would do just fine

[Rick]

Frim what i've seen in the field and the blind, the A5 would do just fine

Perhaps if pitted against a modern Browning or Remington...

[jarbo03]

This is like talking to a kindergartener about why McDonald's sucks. Thet just don't get it. I'm now gonna go talk to a liberal about politics

[The Duck Hammer]

Frim what i've seen in the field and the blind, the A5 would do just fine

Perhaps if pitted against a modern Browning or Remington...

You sumbitch!!!

[sws002]

This is like talking to a kindergartener about why McDonald's sucks. Thet just don't get it. I'm now gonna go talk to a liberal about politics

McDonald's doesn't suck, you suck!

I don't think they are bad guns, I just think they are over-glorified. And I'm curious what Rick has against modern Brownings, I know my Silver and SX2 have been borrowed several times this season because a certain other B gun isn't a fan of the cold...

[The Duck Hammer]

This is like talking to a kindergartener about why McDonald's sucks. Thet just don't get it. I'm now gonna go talk to a liberal about politics

McDonald's doesn't suck, you suck!

I don't think they are bad guns, I just think they are over-glorified. And I'm curious what Rick has against modern Brownings, I know my Silver and SX2 have been borrowed several times this season because a certain other B gun isn't a fan of the cold...

Don't say anything about his beloved brand. He tends to show its war pictures and lash out against competitors....

[Redbeard]

Does it take you a while to get to work in your Model T?

yup cause I'm NEVER in a hurry to get to work

[Rick]

I've gotten to watch a lot of guns work, or not, over the past 29 seasons (Holy crap!) of carrying folks afield daily, and can't help but have my prejudices. Among them Brownings (and their Winchester clones?) and Remingtons have seemed the most mechanically problematic by enough margin I'd not again consider owning either. Doesn't mean anyone's particular Browning (Winchester) or Remington won't work flawlessly, just that my experience leads me to believe there are safer bets. Namely, the Berettas and Benellis, both of which have their share of bobbles, too, just not as many in my experience. Shoot, I saw a husband and wife's Extremas both break on the same hunt! But I'd still choose one over a Gold, SX or Remington semi-auto.

And Duck Hammer will be pleased to know my Benelli 20 started hang-firing this season for some mysterious reason:


More seriously, both my Benellis have seen over 20 seasons of hard use and abuse, and both have their share of new parts to show for it. Things one might not normally think of wearing out, like trigger hinge pins. They're far from indestructible, just gosh awful reliable - given the amount of use and abuse they endure. Will they ever be classics romanticized like the A-5? Probably not, it has a 100 year head start in that department.

[Rick]

He tends to show its war pictures...

Because I can.

[The Duck Hammer]

He tends to show its war pictures...

Because I can.

No hard feelings. I just wanted to see if you'd post the montefeltro picture again.

[jarbo03]

If a gun goes forever with zero problems, you're not using it much. I have seen every make and model have problems. I do like my O/Us.

[Redbeard]

I'm not fool enough to think A5's are superior to today's gun...especially since I'm a Benelli guy. But I did grow up shooting em and I'll say they feel more at home in my hands than any other shotgun