My haul from this weekend. Including my 5 point buck!

[QH's Paw]

.......................... To think I'd see the day that hunters would vote away hunting liberties, mind blown, so fucking disgusted with the short sightedness. What's next, only turkeys with 6" beards?

Why not make it 10". Everyone knows it ain't a real Tom unless there's 10" hangin' , just sayin'.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

I will agree that it's not the best tool out there but it's the best fool proof tool. The ideal restriction (as much as I don't like restrictions) would be to go by age but not everyone can age a deer on the hoof.

No. The ideal would be what I described- allow ONLY bucks 4 points or less to be shot. Do this for three or four years or so. But it'll never happen, because we all know that the antler restrictions aren't for the deer, they're for the hunters.

ideally, the best management plan would involve random harvest across all ages and antler sizes.

the problem is not many out there will just shoot the first deer they see.

[The Duck Hammer]

I will agree that it's not the best tool out there but it's the best fool proof tool. The ideal restriction (as much as I don't like restrictions) would be to go by age but not everyone can age a deer on the hoof.

No. The ideal would be what I described- allow ONLY bucks 4 points or less to be shot. Do this for three or four years or so. But it'll never happen, because we all know that the antler restrictions aren't for the deer, they're for the hunters.

ideally, the best management plan would involve random harvest across all ages and antler sizes.

the problem is not many out there will just shoot the first deer they see.

I sure as hell would.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

I will agree that it's not the best tool out there but it's the best fool proof tool. The ideal restriction (as much as I don't like restrictions) would be to go by age but not everyone can age a deer on the hoof.

No. The ideal would be what I described- allow ONLY bucks 4 points or less to be shot. Do this for three or four years or so. But it'll never happen, because we all know that the antler restrictions aren't for the deer, they're for the hunters.

ideally, the best management plan would involve random harvest across all ages and antler sizes.

the problem is not many out there will just shoot the first deer they see.

I sure as hell would.

I would too. Overall though, two out of 500,000 is statistically zero percent.

[The Duck Hammer]

I will agree that it's not the best tool out there but it's the best fool proof tool. The ideal restriction (as much as I don't like restrictions) would be to go by age but not everyone can age a deer on the hoof.

No. The ideal would be what I described- allow ONLY bucks 4 points or less to be shot. Do this for three or four years or so. But it'll never happen, because we all know that the antler restrictions aren't for the deer, they're for the hunters.

ideally, the best management plan would involve random harvest across all ages and antler sizes.

the problem is not many out there will just shoot the first deer they see.

I sure as hell would.

I would too. Overall though, two out of 500,000 is statistically zero percent.

True and if you look at it that way they shouldn't give a rat's ass what we do then.