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Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:04 pm
by NuffDaddy
In MI we have to use rimfire or shotgun with shot smaller then buckshot to hunt at night. So my question is will lead F shot work on them? Heavier than lead shot is kinda outa my budget. I'll be hunting mostly thick woods where visibility is less than 100 yards.
I feel a shotgun will be better then a .22 with the brush and night time shooting. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:08 pm
by RonE
Last Coyote we killed was with #6 steel shot while we were duck hunting I believe that lead BB or BBB should work just fine.
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Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:08 pm
by Flightstopper
I've read of buffered buckshot can take you to 70. Trick is the buffer to keep the pattern together. Still wanting to play with that one some.

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:31 pm
by jehler
Jr has been loading a lot of lead f shot lately

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:32 pm
by Flightstopper
jehler wrote:Jr has been loading a lot of lead f shot lately


Collapse of society?

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:38 pm
by jehler
Flightstopper wrote:
jehler wrote:Jr has been loading a lot of lead f shot lately


Collapse of society?
probably poaching long range geese?

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:40 pm
by Flightstopper
jehler wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:
jehler wrote:Jr has been loading a lot of lead f shot lately


Collapse of society?
probably poaching long range geese?


I know better than to rule any options out with that boy.

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:46 pm
by jehler
He's been loading 00buck as well, has a 3" load with 12 pellets going 1250, it's devastating

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:47 pm
by jehler
I'll have to post up some patterns

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:49 pm
by Flightstopper
He using buffer? Molding his shot?

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:29 pm
by jehler
He's not making any shot, we got a bunch at a garage sale. Been loading with and without buffer, like them better without so far. Best patterns (for the 00) have been using a gas seal and a Teflon wrap, no wad at all

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:29 pm
by jehler
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Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:33 pm
by Flightstopper
Interesting, need to play around with some this summer. That a crimp or roll?

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:34 pm
by jehler
Crimp, we don't have a roll crimper yet

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:36 pm
by NuffDaddy
RonE wrote:Last Coyote we killed was with #6 steel shot while we were duck hunting I believe that lead BB or BBB should work just fine.
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That's awesome. Shot one 3x with lead 5 at 35 yards and it made a hell of a racket and I'm sure it died somewhere. Never found it though.

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:39 pm
by NuffDaddy
Flightstopper wrote:Interesting, need to play around with some this summer. That a crimp or roll?

Got any starting points for me as far as loads go. Powder...shot...wads. What am I looking for as far as pattern density. From what I found online they say 3-5 pellets in a 10" circle.

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:39 pm
by jehler
You got blue dot powder?

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:40 pm
by jehler
And multi metal wads?

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:45 pm
by Flightstopper
Wish I did. Have only read at this point. Some used wads that they cut the pedals off of, same as jr with the gas seal, mainly to make it fit easier I believe. The factory loads I have use a Cheddite 2.75 and a bpi wad that's real common. Can't think of wad name right now. I was looking at casting wheel weights that seems to be common practice. Haven't convinced myself fully to try it or exactly how to go about casting them properly.

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:46 pm
by NuffDaddy
jehler wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:
jehler wrote:Jr has been loading a lot of lead f shot lately


Collapse of society?
probably poaching long range geese?

:lol::lol:

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:47 pm
by NuffDaddy
jehler wrote:You got blue dot powder?

No, but I can get some I think.

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:47 pm
by NuffDaddy
jehler wrote:And multi metal wads?

Yes

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:48 pm
by jehler
We have bpi's coyote manual as well as the buckshot manual next time I'm in the office I'll send you guys some stuff

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:50 pm
by jarbo03
I did some lead BBs last year at 1400 fps that put multiple hits on a paper plate at 60. I have some other data around here somewhere

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:54 pm
by Flightstopper
jehler wrote:We have bpi's coyote manual as well as the buckshot manual next time I'm in the office I'll send you guys some stuff


Starting to wonder what you don't have that pertains to reloading. Will pick up some blue dot on next trip to gun shop.

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:57 pm
by jehler
jarbo03 wrote:I did some lead BBs last year at 1400 fps that put multiple hits on a paper plate at 60. I have some other data around here somewhere
you remember what powder, besides blue dot I'm thinking the buckshot we've played with has used steel and 4765?

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:09 pm
by NuffDaddy
jehler wrote:We have bpi's coyote manual as well as the buckshot manual next time I'm in the office I'll send you guys some stuff

Thanks.
I'll get the coyote manual next time I order from there too.

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:11 pm
by NuffDaddy
jarbo03 wrote:I did some lead BBs last year at 1400 fps that put multiple hits on a paper plate at 60. I have some other data around here somewhere

I'm trying to decide between BB and F. Some of the coyotes around here are some big mean bastards. Think I'm going to start with F and see how the patterns turn out.

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:14 pm
by jarbo03
jehler wrote:
jarbo03 wrote:I did some lead BBs last year at 1400 fps that put multiple hits on a paper plate at 60. I have some other data around here somewhere
you remember what powder, besides blue dot I'm thinking the buckshot we've played with has used steel and 4765?


I think it was STEEL. Thought about trying one of the 3.5" recipes in that info I sent you

Re: Shotguns and coyotes

PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:28 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
I have some 3" #4 Buck loads that will shred pups to 60 yards.